| ▲ | MBCook 9 hours ago |
| I noticed this morning there was a new version of the YouTube app on my Apple TV. I can’t wait to find out how they screwed this one up. My personal long-term complaint is the length of video titles. Lots of people like to make really long video titles. So right now there is one on my screen titled “The Best Decisions Every Video Game Console Developer Made”. Now if you didn’t know, that is not the whole title. But there’s absolutely no indication of that. The only way you actually know that is either by checking or if the stuff on the screen is clearly not the end of a sentence. So what is the full title? Well if you click and hold on the video, you get a pop-up letting you choose a couple of things such as play or safe to watch later or indicate you’re not interested. And at the top of the pop-up you see more words in the title. In this case you also see “(Part”. Yep. You get ONE extra word. Sometimes not even that. The ONLY way to see the full title is to start watching the video. Obnoxious. |
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| ▲ | atombender 8 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV. For example, if you pause the video by clicking the main action button brings up an overlay that takes up almost the whole screen, so you can no longer see the content in case you paused to freeze the frame. How do you start it again? By clicking the same button, right? No! By clicking up. For some reason up means back and down means to open some additional UI with related videos and what not. No other app is like this — Plex, Infuse, Apple, Netflix etc. abide by relatively sane UI controls where the action button pauses and unpauses, and up/down don't scroll between weird overlay elements. The YouTube filled with these incredible non-unintuitive UX choices that drive me crazy. I never use it unless I have a clear idea of something I want to watch. |
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| ▲ | nedt an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | You'd think they've done it on purpose so you don't watch Youtube on TV. I tried but it's so bad you'd never open it a second time. And that's the platform where there are no ad blockers, so it must be good for them ... | |
| ▲ | hhh an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You’re meant to use the dedicated pause button on the apple tv remote to pause without any overlay. Anything that uses the apple built in player has ui appear when you hit the center button. Same for Netflix. | | |
| ▲ | atombender an hour ago | parent [-] | | No, in the Netflix app, the main button both pauses and unpauses. Same in every other app I use — except YouTube. |
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| ▲ | soulofmischief 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I know Prime did this for quite some time, unaware if they still do. The main YouTube web app also suffers from this same issue, though at least the play button disappears. Everytime YouTube gets an update it gets worse. This has been true for years. It's like their design and product team is run by second-graders. | |
| ▲ | k4rli an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is it a real app anyway on that platform? I doubt it. Last time I checked, the LG webOS app was just running tv.youtube.com which only expects a TV-specific user agent. | |
| ▲ | cmckn 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Agreed the interface is clunky. > you can no longer see the content in case you paused to freeze the frame You can press up on the D-pad to dismiss that overlay, if you want to see the full paused frame. > How do you start it again? By clicking the same button, right? No! By clicking up. Maybe we have different remotes? On the latest model, you play/pause with the same button. One issue I’ve noticed in the app is there seems to be no way to move the cursor “up” to the channel button when the video is in the last 10% of the playback bar. If you rewind it a bit, then you’re able to move the cursor up there. Only in the last few days have Shorts appeared at the top of my home page. I fear it may be the end for me. | |
| ▲ | Y-bar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It’s so bad. Last time I tried to use it I was unable to fill in my password for my account because Google had implement some custom input element and custom keyboard which did not contain some of the characters I have in my password. And of course there was no possibility to paste or use keychain. | | |
| ▲ | e40 an hour ago | parent [-] | | If you have an iPhone you can input with that, including paste. | | |
| ▲ | zimpenfish 11 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > If you have an iPhone you can input with that, including paste. That popping up on your phone is not 100% reliable, though, and even more hilariously, when using it with YouTube, it'll sometimes just take the first handful of characters and drop the text input box on the phone. Oh, how we laughed. (this may be a generic Apple TV problem but it's something I've only noticed on the YouTube app) |
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| ▲ | mrkpdl 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV. The YouTube app is a walk in the park compared to the app for Hayu which is like torture sometimes it’s so buggy. | |
| ▲ | Zanfa 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The YouTube app is easily the worst app on Apple TV. I would've agreed until Netflix did their redesign and started pushing wrestling for whatever braindead reason. Some executives should just quit. | |
| ▲ | stogot 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The YouTube app is the worst on its own site too. I don’t login to any Google account and I turned off site history, and now the homepage is completely blank. Yup. Google won’t even show me a single video on the homepage because I refuse to turn on history. Which is actually kind of nice for preventin distractions | | |
| ▲ | Huppie 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have the same. While it's a bit jarring the first time you see it, I now consider this a feature instead of a bug. Maybe it could be styled a bit differently so the search bar is more prominent and in the center of the screen, but just having a search bar without any distractions is a fantastic feature. |
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| ▲ | yearolinuxdsktp 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem. But no government seems to care—-and what will you do, stop watching YouTube? | | |
| ▲ | hulitu an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > This is intentional on Google’s part. It’s anticompetitive behavior, to make YouTube service’s app shitty on Google’s competitor’s ecosystem This would be true if the Android or Android TV would have been better.
It is just profit maximization combined with crappy UX/UI.
Google wants your personal data and will make UI changes to get it. (double record/send button in messages, UI elements very close to others so that they can be pressed accidentally, although there is plenty of space between other UI elements) | |
| ▲ | Arainach 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is nonsense. Among other things, the YouTube app on Apple TV is superior to the one on Android TV. No loud startup sound, the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure" or if I want to go to a screensaver mode - clean straightforward UI. | | |
| ▲ | ashdksnndck 5 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > the back button exits the app rather than popping up a menu asking "if I'm sure” YouTube did push a version of the Apple TV app that tried this, but it would cause the app to crash/black screen, no joke. They reverted it. | |
| ▲ | gessha 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I guess they just hate their users lmao | | |
| ▲ | atty 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. And i think it’s fair to say the best and brightest at Google aren’t turning their attention to YouTube lately. Except maybe to make training datasets for Gemini N+1 :) | | |
| ▲ | jacquesm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In the case of industry giants malice should be assumed. | |
| ▲ | hulitu an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Never ascribe to malice what can be sufficiently explained by incompetence. We were talking about Google here. (you know, former search engine, don't be evil) |
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| ▲ | chrneu 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There are two apps called "DeArrow" and SponsorBlock that basically everyone should be using. DeArrow replaces thumbnails and titles with crowd sourced versions. I can't use youtube without it anymore. Usually the titles get replaced with stuff like "How to build a table" instead of "Watch the world explode as I try to make a table!!!!!!!!!!!!". Same with thumbnails. No longer are they over-saturated close up AI generated garbage images, but usually just a screenshot from the video that shows what's really going on. |
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| ▲ | herewulf 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Except that those two things are fantastic indicators for videos / channels you should be avoiding. Hiding their foolishness and then watching them anyway rewards their behavior. | |
| ▲ | jason_oster 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Neither of these are available on Apple TV. Otherwise, you make a good suggestion; install them where available. | | | |
| ▲ | blkhawk 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "Watch the world explode as I try to make a table!!!!!!!!!!!!" is unlikely its more like "Watch the world explode as I try to make this thing!!!!!!!!!!!!". |
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| ▲ | chrismorgan 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Lots of people like to make really long video titles. So right now there is one on my screen titled “The Best Decisions Every Video Game Console Developer Made”. Even with the missing “ (Part 2!)” added, that’s still only 68 characters. I would probably begrudgingly call this long, but I would definitely not call it “really long”—my threshold for that would be at least 90 characters. If they’re truncating around 60 characters, I’m content to call it unreasonable. |
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| ▲ | zimpenfish 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > I noticed this morning there was a new version of the YouTube app on my Apple TV. Damn it, I still appear to be on 4.51.08/web_20251117_11_RC00 with no indication that there's a new version. Not looking forward to any updates... > The ONLY way to see the full title is to start watching the video. I sometimes wonder if YouTube is a weird kink cult that gets off on people complaining about the ridiculously user-hostile decisions they make. Because it's either that or they're an evil troll cult that aims to make life just that little bit less pleasant for as many people as possible. |
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| ▲ | jazzyjackson 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Google News has this same truncation problem. I thought it would be an obvious thing to, I don't know, use the `title` attribute so mouseover reveals the rest of the snews... |
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| ▲ | synack 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Every time you see an ellipsis "..." you know that the designer put form over function. Hiding data from the user is never the right answer. They could use their fancy AI to generate shorter titles. |
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| ▲ | hapticmonkey 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Remember when the Youtube app overrode the AppleTV screensavers, to show their own screensavers if Youtube was paused. Any other app, you leave a video paused, the OS screensaver will come on. Those beautiful, aerial screensavers that are better than any screensaver I've ever seen in all my decades of working with computers. So of course the Youtube app had to block them with their own shitty variant. They have no taste and no respect. |
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| ▲ | paperpunk 31 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Your comment is past tense - does that mean they’ve stopped doing this? Please, Lord. I had to set my ATV to go to screensaver in a ridiculously short amount of time to preempt the YouTube one. |
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| ▲ | thaumasiotes 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > Now if you didn’t know, that is not the whole title. But there’s absolutely no indication of that. The only way you actually know that is either by checking or if the stuff on the screen is clearly not the end of a sentence. > So what is the full title? Well if you click and hold on the video, you get a pop-up letting you choose a couple of things such as play or safe to watch later or indicate you’re not interested. And at the top of the pop-up you see more words in the title. In this case you also see “(Part”. > Yep. You get ONE extra word. Sometimes not even that. > The ONLY way to see the full title is to start watching the video. I'm looking at youtube right now. There's a video displayed with the title "Word Differences Between 11 Countries! | Europe, Africa, Asia , ..." That "..." is the indicator that the title has been truncated. If you hover the title with your mouse, you can see the entire thing: "Word Differences Between 11 Countries! | Europe, Africa, Asia , America | Why Are They Similar?" Not far away, there's "Alex Honnold Answers Rock Climbing Questions | Tech Support...", which expands to "Alex Honnold Answers Rock Climbing Questions | Tech Support | WIRED". Am I using Apple TV? No. Is it really true that they removed the truncation indicator? |
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