Heh, shortcut muscle memory is the reason I returned my Mac mini one week after trying it. I sure am not gonna remap my brain for apple after 20 years of Linux and windows.

There are *nix terminals that will let you bind shortcuts that don't conflict with terminal control keys. Konsole and KDE stuff in general will let you set Mac-style bindings (with some config effort), though I personally use mlterm.

The tradeoff here is that Macs don't have a system key that most applications don't interpret in some way. On Windows and Linux, system key shortcuts are much easier to set up.

I really do like Cmd key usage for any terminal in Mac. The ability to send Ctrl+C differently than Cmd+C in a Mac is joyous.

However, for most all other applications in Mac, I dislike the Mac command key. Especially in IDEs like vscode, etc.

And I really hate that the actual Ctrl key on a Mac is in the wrong place, having swapped places with Fn. It's like the first thing I have to remember to do on each Mac setup, swap those two keys.

Because I'm toggling between mac/windows/linux all day long, my poor muscle memory is always confused. And it would be nice if this could be unified. Unfortunately, I'm guessing it would have to be solved more by Apple than by Microsoft or Linux.

Yeah shift-ins really is the way

Oh wow, I'm already using ghostty and didn't know about this. It works great, thanks!

Hope Kovid Goyal gets inspired by this

> If Ctrl+v is bound to paste, how do you insert a verbatim character in the shell?

For those unaware:

> Unix interactive terminals use Control-V to mean "the next character should be treated literally" (the mnemonic here is "V is for verbatim"). This allows a user to insert a literal Control-C or Control-H or similar control characters that would otherwise be handled by the terminal. This behavior was copied by text editors like vi and Unix shells like bash and tcsh, which offer text editing on the command line.[3]

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control-V

You don't but you don't notice if you never did anything like that. Half of the keybinds listed by 'stty -a' are a mystery to mankind.

Seems to me a reasonable concern but I'd bet it's only for a minority of users... so perfect candidate to have implemented, but given as a disabled by default setting.

That's an X11 thing that Wayland had to reimplement because it's so convenient. The problem is when pasting into the terminal something that another program copied into the clipboard. That's ctrl-shift-c.

I thought about remapping copy and paste to their own keys, possibly a single one. Maybe on the number pad, which I never use. Or remapping ctrl-c.

Isn't this an X11-ism? I dont believe this is Wayland-specific

Yeah I know. I missed this for the first couple days, but didn't take much before forgetting it after the change to Windows. (anyway I keep using Linux at home)

This is also a thing in X, not only Wayland.

But that doesn't go into clipboard history. And severely restricts what you can do between copying and pasting in general (very importantly makes it a pain to do replace (i.e. select+(implicit-delete+)paste)) as any intermediate selection before pasting destroys your Primary Selection. And if you realize you did that, recopying takes manually reselecting the text, or the otherwise-never-used ctrl+insert to recopy, instead of just repeating the same old ctrl+c as you always do with the clipboard in any sane application.

Of course still a nice option (esp. in terminals where the proper copy/paste are nerfed and selecting for editing is annoyingly not a thing), but far from a replacement for the proper clipboard.

How do you paste the selected text if you want to replace a text selection in the other window?

>middle mouse button

Speaking for myself (although I suspect many others), I haven't used a mouse in well over a decade. To be clear, I am in the terminal all the time. So this is not a universal solution.

I have that turned on in Windows Terminal but still use ctrl+c because it's how all other software works

> immediately puts it into the tmux buffer

Can you paste in a non-terminal app though (like a web browser) ?

It comes with Windows, and has since 2022! Alas, if you mean Windows 10 then you can use some DISM magic to add it to an install image.

It's shipped with Windows since Windows 11. Updates come via the Store (since that's a lot faster than OS updates), but it's definitely preinstalled these days

It is default in w11 25h2

This doesn't correspond to my experience. The terminal is not faster than light, but good enough for my requirements, and I use it both locally and through VNC. May it be a problem with your VDI setup?

I mean ctrl+c/v is just muscle memory, obviously there are tons of other way but ctrl+c/v are just the default and the one everyone knows.

So now we are moving away from Keyboard only Vim/Terminal thing to mouse for pasting?