| ▲ | Nvidia Board of Directors Is Investigating Jensen Huang(nvidianews.nvidia.com) |
| 373 points by vincentchau 5 hours ago | 290 comments |
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| ▲ | nrmitchi 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The title on this is just extremely misleading. Nvidia is doing an investigation of Jensen Huang being targeted in an intelligence operation; ie, an investigation of something that happened to him. The title implies that Jensen Huang is the target of Nvidia's investigation. |
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| ▲ | root_axis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It is not at all misleading. Huang's conduct as the CEO of arguably the most influential AI firm in the world, having an extra-marital affair with a Chinese spy, is obviously going to be a central part of any investigation into this. | | |
| ▲ | bluegatty 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Language matters. "XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here. There might be some of that, but this is not likely the focus of the investigation. They're investigating a potential influence operation involving the CEO, which may overlap with investigating some kind of culpability on his part. It's an unfair editorial headline. - edit - Here is the literal source: "" initiating an independent investigation in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort."" Jensen is not specifically under investigation, if anything the language is sympathetic to him being the target of a foreign Op. The US government is investigating Alice Huang (not Jensen) for obvious reasons. Obviously the 'bar' is different for the CEO than for someone acting with criminal intent, but it's not far to say that Jensen is under investigation. | | |
| ▲ | root_axis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > "XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here. There clearly is some "possible wrongdoing here", hence the investigation which has been launched if for no other purpose than to rule that out. > They're investigating a potential influence operation involving the CEO They're not investigating what we already know. The presence of a spy leaves no doubt that Huang was the target of an influence operation, the primary concern now are the details of Huang's conduct with respect to being targeted. | | |
| ▲ | bluegatty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | " has been launched if for no other purpose than to rule that out. This is false and basically slander. The statement from Nvidia indicates no such thing. They are investigating the fact that Jensen was the target of a Foreign Intelligence Operation - literally those are the words. The target of the government's investigation is her (Alice Huang) not him. They are not 'investigating Jensen', it's an unfair misrepresentation. | | |
| ▲ | lostlogin 12 minutes ago | parent [-] | | ‘Nvidia said on Sunday that it was opening an investigation into Jensen Huang, its chief executive and co-founder, after he acknowledged to the company’s board that he had been intimate with a business executive who U.S. intelligence determined was a Chinese spy.’ New York Times (paywalled) is happy to call it an investigation into the CEOs conduct.
https://www.nytimes.com/2026/11/08/technology/nvidia-investi... |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > "XXX is being investigated" implies there's some kind of possible wrongdoing here A Board independently investigating its CEO with outside counsel absolutely communicates they think he may have fucked up. You don't do that in the normal course of affairs. | | |
| ▲ | bluegatty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | No - this is not true. They are not 'investigating the CEO' - they are investigating the situation. In the press release they are investigating the fat that Jensen 'was the target of an operation'. I think the misrepresentative nature of your comment proves my point. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > this is not true What experience or reporting are you basing this on? > They are not 'investigating the CEO' - they are investigating the situation This is how all independent investigations by a Board are phrased. Because half the time, you don't fire the CEO. Would you say walking into a meeting where you have a 50% chance of being fired is a nothing burger? > the misrepresentative nature of your comment proves my point I think I'm pretty clearly representing what a lot of folks on this thread are misunderstanding, willfully or ignorantly, about the nature of this sort of a Board action. |
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| ▲ | ealexhudson 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The board of directors have no jurisdiction to investigate an "influence operation on their CEO", and even if they did, they have no power to do anything about it. Their jurisdiction is within the business. If this was primarily an investigation of the external actors, this would be talking about what law enforcement are doing. The wording of the announcement is pretty neutral but I think it's clear what is within and without their bailiwick. The title is a much more informative description than "Statement from the board". | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > board of directors have no jurisdiction to investigate an "influence operation on their CEO", and even if they did, they have no power to do anything about it They don't need to, but of course they can. You hire investigators and an outside law firm to dig stuff up. |
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| ▲ | fakedang 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's not an editorial headline when it's straight from the source lol. This is the official NVidia press release. Do you seriously think NVidia wants to have more eyeballs on this scandal? | | |
| ▲ | bluegatty 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is literally not straight from the source. Source: "initiating an independent investigation in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort." They are investigating a situation where their CEO was the target of an Op - that's totally reasonable and doesn't remotely hint that he has done something wrong. This is the right thing for the board to do: "We are investigating the situation because we have been informed that foreign actors may have targeted our staff". |
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| ▲ | oooyay 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner. What I am extra curious about is why is Alice Huang not being rigorously investigated prior to or alongside all of this? If these allegations are true then what she did amounts to treason and a variety of other things. Failing to register as a foreign agent is another. She, at the very least, should be held by the US the same way we hold other foreign nationals charged with treason. | | |
| ▲ | root_axis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected There are 100 different ways that the CEO falling victim to an espionage plot could impact the business. | | |
| ▲ | oooyay an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Please use the whole quote: > I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. If you can establish the latter, then his personal conduct is between him and his partner. If you read the second sentence then you and I agree. I care if the business is affected, I don't if it is not and then the rest of this is a personal matter that doesn't need to be a news story because it is gossip. | | |
| ▲ | chrishare 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Perhaps there should be an investigation? Perhaps the existing awareness of this relationship of his is cause for the board announcing publicly this investigation? |
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| ▲ | enraged_camel 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes. For one, it makes them vulnerable to blackmail, so their decisions can no longer be trusted. | | |
| ▲ | rescbr an hour ago | parent [-] | | But the cat is out of the bag, so the blackmail won't work anymore. |
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| ▲ | dofm 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. This is actually a pretty challenging standard, because the moment the CEO tries to gaslight their spouse/partner that it's not an affair, they are already at risk of bringing the company into a deception: working late is almost always the cover, for one thing. But at that moment you have a substantially compromised person as a CEO. This might seem a silly place to draw the line, but consider what the escalations are — the CEO's PA being asked to mislead the spouse, inventing a meeting they were at, inventing an away trip, etc. etc.; they always mount up. There is no executive who has an affair who doesn't pretend they are at work, and there's no pretence that doesn't ultimately put an employee in a difficult position. It's entirely reasonable for a board to say that if the CEO or the chairman is having an affair it is their business. And this is before you even consider that the affair is ordinarily likely to be with an employee. Now, if a CEO at Huang's level of geopolitical importance is having an affair with anyone, it's the government's business, and the shareholders', because it makes them a (local and international, commercial and state-level) blackmail and espionage target even if they are not literally boffing a spy, which in this case he evidently is. So yeah, it matters. | |
| ▲ | dualvariable 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I, as a shareholder, do not care if the CEO is having an affair so long as the business is not affected. This is really naive. And I bet other people could do other questionable things that you'd consider to color their entire character and render them untrustworthy. | |
| ▲ | zirkonit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm sorry, but how can a Chinese national living in Singapore be charged for treason in US? Doesn't the concept of treason presume some kind of loyalty to the state in question, usually through citizenship? | | |
| ▲ | dofm 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Right. Nothing much that can be done here, though she might not want to visit relatives on holiday. | |
| ▲ | coro_1 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yup treason is the correct term if Alice Huang were a US Citizen. But they're not. |
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| ▲ | rustystump 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I, as a shareholder, do care. It isnt about moralism. Sony america lost their ceo because he was banging some 20yo as a perk to sign a contract with another media company and she got mad about it when her side didnt pan out (no acting roles). It is bad for business. Thats all. Him doing this is bad for Nvidia and bad for shareholders. | | |
| ▲ | oooyay an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | That is a quid pro quo, that is not the same as simply having an affair with another powerful executive. | |
| ▲ | cainxinth 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If nothing else, it's a distraction. And it tarnishes the street's golden image of NVIDIA. | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What is wrong with these VIPs? I always thought when you become a big, important CEO or politician, they gave you The Book and the first chapter says "Just bang your hot Chinese mistress. Don't tell her any secrets." Jeez, how dumb are these guys? | | |
| ▲ | nemomarx 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Have you tried having sex with someone for an extended time and not catching some emotions? It's tough. |
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| ▲ | shitloadofbooks 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You in a few years time: "I can't believe this person who lied and cheated, lied and cheated to ME." | | |
| ▲ | oooyay an hour ago | parent [-] | | I think you'll be rather disappointed. This is a view I've held since college that's stayed with me to this day. The same logic I see on display in this thread is what I heard when Republicans were going after Bill Clinton. The fact that he lied was the cherry on top, they were very eager to charge him with some kind of moral crime. The fact that the moral crime existed was a giant distraction to the actual risks, and the risks largely didn't exist if the moral crime did not exist. |
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| ▲ | rayiner 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If someone is willing to cheat on their spouse, do you think they'll have any compunction about cheating their employees and shareholders? | | |
| ▲ | khriss 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Cheating employees is practically entry level stakes for being a CEO. Not only is it tolerated, it's celebrated(at least in the United States). Cheating shareholders, esp large ones is a big no no since there are real consequences for CEOs engaging in such behaviour. | |
| ▲ | fc417fc802 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I certainly don't condone it but nonetheless the underlying motivations as well as the potential consequences of those behaviors seem almost entirely unrelated to me. | | |
| ▲ | rayiner an hour ago | parent [-] | | In both cases, someone breaches a confidential trust in order to pursue a self-serving motivation, and lies in order to avoid potential consequences. | | |
| ▲ | machomaster 32 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It's myopic of you to assume that every marriage is the same and that having mistress would constitute a breach of confidential trust. | | |
| ▲ | rayiner 25 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I made no such assumption. My post was about “cheating,” because that is what Huang did. |
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| ▲ | jimz 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It speaks more to not having entered into a compatible relationship than anything else. I've been in a situationship where effectively if my state still had common law marriage, we'd be married, but there's no cheating in the relationship because frankly we're on the same page that these labels are a form of control to begin with. One can only get blackmailed by something one is embarrassed about. I don't believe in vice as a concept that anything but artificially created low-hanging fruit by authorities to create leverage out of normal human activities, so feel free to blackmail me on who I sleep with or not sleep with, I... don't care. Once the statute of limitation passes, same goes for drug use or other victimless crimes that are "against society". The state created the situation that opens one up to blackmail for no reason besides the enforcement of one particular set of perceived norms. As an individual, I call bullshit on the coercion. If societal pressure is all that is responsible to create the rationale and reason for deception, how can it not be fundamentally a crock of shit. There's no indication that there's nonconsent involved, nor any actual espionage. this is a way to impress upon someone a set of moral code that is arbitrary and capricious with extreme social coercion. To judge by that standard is pretty close to the anti-gay hysteria of the McCarthyist era. Enough is enough. | | |
| ▲ | rayiner 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No little kid whose dad cheated on their mom thinks "vice" is an artificial construct designed to control people. And it's not like "McCarthyists" invented the concept of adultery being bad. Almost every major culture developed the concept independently. The Abrahamic religions, Chinese confucianism, Buddhism, and Hinduism had little contact with each other 2,000 years ago, but all developed the notion of adultery as a major moral transgression. | |
| ▲ | ndriscoll 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well he wrote that he was deeply sorry to his family, so presumably his relationship is not as libertine as yours. |
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| ▲ | nostrademons 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I mean, the last 3 paragraphs of NVidia's statement are: > While the Board has no reason to believe that either national security or NVIDIA secrets were compromised, the Board's inquiry will examine all available information. > Jensen fully supports the review and has committed to cooperating with it. > The Board has confidence in Jensen and his leadership team and will provide further updates as appropriate. My interpretation of this is simply this is what you do when you are the board of a public company and the U.S. government has accused your CEO of being the target of espionage. You need to get the facts, if only to cover your own asses. If it turns out the accusations are hogwash, then you have facts of your own that you can release to counter whatever hogwash the government puts out. If it turns out your CEO committed a crime or otherwise did something improper, then you need to dismiss the CEO to prevent your complicity in the crime. If it turns out there holes in your security protocols around top executives, you need to plug those holes. But until you have the facts, coming from an independent investigation, neither they nor us have any clue what the right response is. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > this is what you do when you are the board of a public company No, it's not. In a majority of cases where a public-company Board independently investigates its CEO, the CEO gets removed [1]. (And they're all announced like this. If you're in that 40% where you don't remove the CEO, you don't want to have burned them.) If the Board still unconditionally trusted Jensen, they'd have him hire outside counsel to conduct an independent investigation of NVIDIA's security apparatus. [1] https://www.gsb.stanford.edu/faculty-research/publications/s... | | |
| ▲ | nostrademons 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | 40% is a pretty high percentage where they don't get removed. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > 40% is a pretty high percentage where they don't get removed It's very low for a CYA exercise. Boards don't independently investigate their CEOs as a matter of routine or to cover their asses. That's what an independent investigation by outside counsel is for. The Board taking the reins on this is absolutely substantial to anyone who understands how corporate Boards work. | | |
| ▲ | nostrademons 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | We'll see. Another way to put this is "Do you feel comfortable shorting NVDA tomorrow morning based on this news?" Because if Huang is removed it's very likely they will face challenges finding and reacting the next big use-case for GPUs, not to mention capitalizing on AI (which already is seeming shaky for other reasons). If you're completely confident that this will result in his removal, it seems like there's easy money to be made here. Personally I don't feel comfortable enough to put my money where my mouth is. I'd give it even odds, but even odds, to me, is not enough to say it'll go one way or another. | | |
| ▲ | mjr00 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Because if Huang is removed it's very likely they will face challenges finding and reacting the next big use-case for GPUs Huang has done a fine job managing NVidia, but he's also the poster child for "better lucky than good." It's not like he led NVidia out of dire straits to pivot into the cryptocurrency/blockchain, and then AI, bubbles. They were making hardware for computer graphics, and that just so happened to be the same foundational hardware for the two biggest technology bubbles of the 21st century, twice in a row. I find it hard to believe NVidia's incredible success can be attributed exclusively to him. Sometimes you're just in the right place at the right time. | | |
| ▲ | cameronh90 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They’ve been in the right place at the right time too many times. It’s a bit like when you watch a fantastic FPS player play, they just always seem to be in the right place to catch the other guy off guard. Huang didn’t know exactly what was coming - but he knew enough and managed to put NV into a position where it could quickly exploit whatever did emerge. | |
| ▲ | sdenton4 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm not a fan of Jensen by any means, but he did start the CUDA program some eight years before it was actually useful (the alexnet moment). He called the need for high performance linear algebra for scientific computing, it just took a while for it to find its first killer app. | | |
| ▲ | moregrist an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | CUDA was well-used in HPC and other compute-intensive spaces long before neural nets were in style. If you look at the evolution of GPGPU computing, at least from an HPC perspective, CUDA is almost an obvious step. What’s perplexing is that AMD and Intel let it get so far ahead in the late 2000s and early 2010s. | |
| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | CUDA was a formalization of what happened outside of NV. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CUDA#History | |
| ▲ | nkassis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That was becoming a hot topic at the time prior to DL getting on the map but it was smart to recognize the latent demand for GPGPU. Was still going to lead to solid growth with AI was just not going to be the exponential growth we saw if it didn't happen. |
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| ▲ | fc417fc802 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Meanwhile intel (as but one prominent example) was also researching and manufacturing GPUs for most (all?) of that timeline yet somehow managed to fumble it. Quite often IMO simply not screwing up while already holding all of the necessary cards is a lot harder than it looks. |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Another way to put this is "Do you feel comfortable shorting NVDA tomorrow morning based on this news?" This is a silly way to read corporate governance. There exist finer levers for tuning up and down exposure than going long or short. > If you're completely confident that this will result in his removal Straw man. Nobody argued this. What's being argued is that the top comment's implication–that this is par for the course–is bullshit. The Board is signaling a partial loss of confidence in their CEO. There is also substantial risk, though no assurance, that Jensen will step down. > I'd give it even odds That's what about 50% chances mean. |
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| ▲ | root_axis 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure, but everything you're describing here accurately falls under the label of "investigating the CEO". | | |
| ▲ | jimz 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Accurate literally, but misleading to anyone who speaks English. |
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| ▲ | joshribakoff 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The title implies he is the target of the investigation — that is because he is indeed the target of the investigation. That is different from the fact that the allegation is that a malicious actor targeted him. Those aren’t mutually exclusive things. They need to complete the investigation to decide whether he was an active participant. Its like you’re assuming an investigation is done after someone is determined to be guilty, rather than being done as a means to make the determination. | |
| ▲ | _heimdall 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yes he could have been targeted by a foreign intelligence agency. That's a government problem to investigate. The board would be more concerned with his conduct as a CEO and whether he's still best to lead the company. Having an affair didn't happen to him, he presumably was fully aware of what he was doing there. | |
| ▲ | TheTrueAres 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I would suspect they will be investigating how easy it is to honeypot him. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > suspect they will be investigating how easy it is to honeypot him The Board should be investigating two things: if Jensen knowingly lied to the Board and if he corruptly colluded to suppress any government’s investigation into Alice Huang. If the answer to both is no, he is a man who got duped and compromised America and Taiwan’s national security. Still, perhaps, a great founder and CEO. Send him to marriage counseling and have his security detail report to the Board. If the answer to either is yes, he should resign, personally indemnify the company against shareholder lawsuits, and switch focus to defending himself against criminal charges (and working on his marriage or divorce, as it might be). | | |
| ▲ | LPisGood 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I disagree. A lack of candor or active deception are certainly disqualifying, but dangerous naïveté or a lack of discretion with respect to company secrets and devices is just as bad. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > dangerous naïveté or a lack of discretion with respect to company secrets and devices is just as bad It can be mitigated. Lying cannot. | | |
| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | In case you don't remember we had a US President who lied under oath about having an affair and it was no big deal. | | |
| ▲ | nerdix 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | It would've have been a bigger deal if Monica Lewinsky was a Russian spy. |
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| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Nvidia Corp. Chief Executive Officer Jensen Huang said the chipmaker’s dealings with Megaspeed International were “normal and not unusual” https://archive.is/ljGPF No lie here. |
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| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > compromised America and Taiwan’s national security in the process absurd claim with zero evidence to support it. if there was any evidence that he actually compromised US national security he would already be gone. there isn't even any evidence that the woman is a Chinese asset. that is just speculation from whatever felons leaked their illegal surveillance of a US citizen's private life. | | |
| ▲ | kraken_cult 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > if there was any evidence that he actually compromised US national security he would already be gone. It's likely the story coming out like this is the best mitigation they can come up with, if AI is a national security interest of the US and he's granting a Chinese asset access to said interests. He's already conspiring with a foreign government against the interests of the US. That he's extremely visible in his role is probably the only reason he's still around, until next week or whenever. The US doesn't vanish prominent CEOs like that, that's more a China thing. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > That he's extremely visible in his role is probably the only reason he's still around The stock is massively up under his leadership. Firing Jensen would cause a massive loss of personal wealth to everyone on that Board. You don't even want to announce an investigation like this unless you're personally scared of getting implicated in a potential cover-up. |
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| ▲ | iknowstuff 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Oh my, that’s quite the confident response. Do you have any particular info on this that I’m missing? | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > if there was any evidence that he actually compromised US national security he would already be gone Seriously? Our intelligence community and corporate governance is just operating in perfect shape right now? > there isn't even any evidence that the woman is a Chinese asset Lol got it. | |
| ▲ | Barrin92 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >if there was any evidence that he actually compromised US national security he would already be gone okay that's a joke in this administration right, the sitting American president is a threat to American national security and they made a woman who took private trips to Assad the Director of National Intelligence. If you're capable of selling out American national interests to foreign autocrats chances are that'll you'll be appointed special envoy and get a promotion rather than the opposite | | |
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| ▲ | bluegatty 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nobody needs to be told twice they are going to be victim of a honey pot. They are 1) covering their butts 2) placating external influences (probably state dept) 3) trying to find out what happened, but not have it be exposed 4) Avoiding risk of their Goose laying Golden Eggs at all costs. The man is bringing them gazillions, they are not going to flip him over like a cheezeburger. He's replacable but it comes with gigantic risk. Board's tend to enable thing that fill their coffers with money and protect that over everything else. |
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| ▲ | InsideOutSanta 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is it misleading? He cheated with a Chinese spy. That didn't just happen to him, he did that. | | |
| ▲ | eecc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Cheating isn’t itself culpable outside of an eventual civil case for divorce. Whether he abused his executive powers is a different problem. | | | |
| ▲ | nodesocket 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Also a Chinese spy who worked with Chinese companies who had been flagged as violating import/export rules. |
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| ▲ | rayiner an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Something didn't "happen to him." He voluntarily did something that created an (allegedly inadvertent) security problem. | |
| ▲ | elxr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > of something that happened to him. That's not accurate either, and it isn't that simple. Both him and the spy consciously made the decisions that led to this ordeal. Title is not incorrect, at least by 2026 standards where engagement bait is accepted as long as it's not a complete fabrication. | |
| ▲ | sigmar 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One of the most important (of many) questions the board will have is "did Jensen give her any privileged information?" which means it is also an investigation of him. | |
| ▲ | ajross 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, but the "intelligence operation" was that his girlfriend was a spy. Inevitably, that's going to involve asking questions like "did he give his girlfriend sensitive stuff?". The headline is indeed misleading, but so is your reinterpretation. It's not like the guy got his phone hacked. | | |
| ▲ | root_axis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > but the "intelligence operation" was that his girlfriend was a spy It's worse than that - his mistress was a spy. This carries additional concerns since it opens the possibility of blackmail or extortion. | | |
| ▲ | madaxe_again 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | They’ll do what? Go public with it? Hard to do when it’s already public. | | |
| ▲ | root_axis 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's public now - the concern is obviously regarding the period of time when it wasn't public. | |
| ▲ | Muromec 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | They can go public with more information that we don't know yet, but the man does. |
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| ▲ | prmoustache 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > "did he give his girlfriend sensitive stuff?" Usually those body parts you share are quite sensitive. That's the point. |
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| ▲ | 233mhz 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > of something that happened to him. Oh no, not again, I just cheated on my wife with a chinese spy, it just "happened to me" | |
| ▲ | Betelbuddy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | He is the target of the investigation:
"Nvidia launches investigation into CEO's affair with suspected Chinese spy" - https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c3dxw10rjn9no They better check the firmware on his laptops. | |
| ▲ | hn_throwaway_99 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This has to be the most "well, akchually..." comment I've read on HN in a long time. Yes, Huang was targeted, as obviously he knew he would be. But "ie, an investigation of something that happened to him." Are you for real with that one? Perhaps Huang should try that with his wife: "You see honey, the fact that my penis ended up in the vagina of a Chinese spy was just something that happened to me." Good grief. | |
| ▲ | vor_ 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > something that happened to him What's with this passive language, as if he didn't have agency in cheating on his wife with a spy? Oopsie-daisy, it just happened TO him, like an unexpected rainstorm. Come on. | |
| ▲ | Bengalilol 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Right.
But the overall feel of the communication is puzzling. I know it is PR, short, concise and on purpose, but I _read_ something's on the way. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Nvidia is doing an investigation of Jensen Huang being targeted in an intelligence operation The Board has launched an investigation of its CEO. This is how it’s being branded. If you’re just coöperating with law enforcement, all assuredly on one team, you don’t launch a Board investigation, you let your CEO and an outside law firm handle it. | | |
| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This is completely false. The board has a fiduciary duty to conduct an independent investigation. It is completely routine. | | | |
| ▲ | paxy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > The NVIDIA Board is initiating an independent investigation in light of recent reporting that founder and CEO Jensen Huang has been the target of a foreign intelligence effort. This is the exact wording. Nowhere do they say they are investigating the CEO. They are investigating an incident, and the CEO is part of it. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Nowhere do they say they are investigating the CEO They don’t have to. If you know anything about how Boards work, you know what this means. Boards don’t independently investigate anything with outside counsel as a regular matter of course. They have their CEO do it. To round this out, CEOs survive independent Board investigations about half the time. But it points to a diminishment of their power and trust. |
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| ▲ | scandox 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Here's the vastly more sensible title from WSJ: "Nvidia’s Board to Investigate Reports That Jensen Huang Was Spying Target" | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Both are based on the linked statement, the primary source. A Board forming an independent committee with outside counsel means it’s considering implicating the CEO. You don’t say that. But you also don’t do this if you have full trust and confidence in your executive. |
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| ▲ | enlyth 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also reported by Bloomberg: "Nvidia Board to Probe Spying Case After CEO Admits Infidelity" https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-11-08/nvidia-bo... https://archive.is/VfRdl |
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| ▲ | aigalaxiome 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| China targets everyone of consequence, of course they targeted Jensen.
This may be a 'game of thrones' nefarious move by hostile foreign or domestic parties who want to wrest defacto control, perhaps angle to put their puppet in control, or otherwise leverage Nvidia by taking down its Founder and CEO.
It is completely unproven and should not be assumed that Jensen nor Nvidia took part in anything untoward at all. Historically, Jensen doesn't do stupid. So whether you like him or not, I do not believe he would be that stupid. |
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| ▲ | mwambua 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not necessarily untoward from a national security point of view - but he’s admitted to the affair. (Gift link: https://giftarticle.ft.com/giftarticle/actions/redeem/d8a218...) | | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > should not be assumed that Jensen nor Nvidia took part in anything untoward at all The punishment for the cover-up often exceeds that for the crime. We don’t have evidence around whether Huang is compromised with China. We do have compelling evidence that he tried to minimize fall-out, or potentially even sweep under the rug the problem, after finding out the true identity of this woman. If he did it with Trump, that’s corruption in service of a national-security compromise. | | |
| ▲ | _heimdall 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Isn't everyone having an affair part of a cover-up? I wouldn't consider it an affair if it was known and out in the open, affair implies keeping it secret in my opinion at least. |
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| ▲ | reducesuffering 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No, Jensen has admitted in a memo to employees he had an affair. | | |
| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh no, an affair! We are all puritans now who go to church every Sunday and stone adulterers. What planet are you living on? | | |
| ▲ | LPisGood 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Cheating per se is not a problem other than showing a concerning lack of judgement. A strong desire to keep an affair secret is more dangerous. | | |
| ▲ | wolfinterval 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Also imagine an intelligence agency is designing cover for someone to seduce YOU. It is not just having an affair with some random person and using poor judgement. It is a person what was crafted with you as a target. The whole thing is weaponized. I have never cheated in a relationship and it is not something I would ever consider. It is easy to say this though knowing I am not going to be the target of an intelligence agency honey pot. | |
| ▲ | WatchDog 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > A strong desire to keep an affair secret is more dangerous. I'm no expert on having affairs, but isn't secrecy key to the whole thing? At least secrecy from the spouse. If you have no strong desire for secrecy, then is it even an affair at that point? Either the spouse tacitly supports the extramarital fornication, or the relationship is already in tatters. |
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| ▲ | filoleg 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I am not a puritan, so that's not the angle of concern for me at all. I believe the actual larger concern here is "in case Jensen didn't want this to become public (whether it was due to the divorce potential or whatever other reason; that's not relevant), what lengths would he be willing to go to keep it under wraps?". If it gets confirmed that Jensen simply had an affair (without a "shared/did things he wasn't supposed to share/do" component), then it is a nothingburger (for anyone except him and his family). But until we have that confirmed, the US government is concerned about what critical info he might have shared/done to avoid being blackmailed by an agent acting on behalf of PRC. | |
| ▲ | Muromec 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This could be seen as lack of integrity, which is a problem | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah, 50 years ago this was a big deal; nowadays... meh. There are tons of people who have survived this and even worse. The public has become inured to infidelity, but so have the media and the various industry gatekeepers (it’s not bad enough to get someone blacklisted or made persona non grata). Except Epstein... those involved with him probably won’t recover. So there are lines that cannot be crossed, but cheating is not one of them. Hell, even beloved Patrick Stewart cheated on both of his first two wives, admitted it in his memoir, and no one cared. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Except Epstein... those involved with him probably won’t recover. What? Nobody involved with Epstein has gone to prison yet. One of them was even re-elected president. If I had to list the terrible things you could do when you're rich and not face consequences, trafficking and raping children would sadly be high up on the list. | |
| ▲ | rustystump 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is completely false and there are numerous public examples to pull from. If anything, it is worse now than it was in the past with how the mob can dogpile. Case and point, caught at a coldplay? cheating? Both fired? Lives destroyed? As for the actor, really? Totally dif industries and people do care. Execs make a company look bad and when actors do too, cheating or not, they also get smacked. You may not care but most people do and if a tiny spark hits Patrick, his legacy will be destroyed. There are many actors that the public is well aware of how gross they are and are hated for it regardless of ability. | |
| ▲ | madaxe_again 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Maybe I’m old but it doesn’t seem that long ago that Clinton got impeached for infidelity. | | |
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| ▲ | creato 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The affair itself is not the problem. The problem is if his wife doesn't like it, that secret is worth billions of dollars to keep. What would Jensen do to keep it secret? | | |
| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Well, when the NY Times floated the first blackmail attempt, he obviously didn't play ball, so I guess we already know the answer? |
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| ▲ | skeeter2020 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | unless he's absolutely open with his partner and other people in his life, doesn't care or even wants them to know, this provides leverage that can influence his actions. It's almost like you're the one pretending to be out of touch to make a your point... | |
| ▲ | Keyframe 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Bedding an adversarial entity's agent in a regulated field is a serious matter (for the company) with potentially serious consequences. It can lead to executive decapitation, it can even lead to / criminal investigations if the operative bypassed export controls using executive proximity.. the fallout can be great and widespread. It can also be a nothingburger and an amusing page six divorce story in the end where we all read how rich cry as well. Time will tell. What's telling of where this might lead and how serious it is, is that it was US federal government that warned about this. |
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| ▲ | ajross 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > China targets everyone of consequence, of course they targeted Jensen. Yes, but they aren't investing him because he was "targetted" in the abstract. They're investigating him because the operation was extremely successful. Dude was literally fucking a spy. As it were. | | |
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| ▲ | frays 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Insightful comment from the other thread: If you are one of the most powerful man on earth you are going to be the target of all the secret services of all powerful countries. Period. It is their job. You take decisions that are worth billions, you influence people that take decisions that are worth billions, and affect their countries. They are going to study you for years. Your personality type and that of the people around you. Your weaknesses. Your problems and that of your family. They will employ the most sweet and the most pleasurable and gorgeous honey that there is in the world to create the perfect Honey trap. Normal people just can not imagine how sweet, specially when it has been customised around your needs and desires. It is not just a woman wanting to have sex with you. It will be the woman in your dreams. |
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| ▲ | buildsjets an hour ago | parent [-] | | More like stolen comment from another thread. Who do you think you are, OpenAI? |
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| ▲ | baxtr 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They say any man can be seduced by one of these three: money, drugs or sex. Or as Charlie Munger put it: There are only three ways a smart person can go broke: Liquor, ladies, and leverage.“ |
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| ▲ | wolfinterval 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Munger also didn't mean this in the context of an intelligence operation. This is not just a lapse of judgement from some random encounter on a business trip. Surely a whole team would be dedicated to this operation with whatever resources needed since it will be a tiny investment for the possible payoff. | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don't think he's at any risk of going broke. At worst he will lose his job and NVDA stock will suffer a brief setback. | | |
| ▲ | nostrademons 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Eh, NVDA could be in for some trouble if he's dismissed. He's very much a command & control CEO - his deputies are largely tasked with implementing his decisions, leaving no obvious successor - and the recent history of NVidia is one of Huang continually finding or creating new use-cases for its GPUs that has it keep attaining new heights even after the previous one crashes. There was a time, after the crypto crash of 2021, where NVDA was down about 66%; likewise after the crypto crash of 2018. If nobody finds the next great application of GPUs, we could see NVDA down 90% or more. | |
| ▲ | sheikhnbake 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I hope he lands on his feet after the dust settles. This job market sucks. Hope his $160 billion net worth will keep him afloat between gigs | | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Even more amazing he is worth so much despite owning so little of the company . Goes to show just how big NVDA is |
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| ▲ | ivanjermakov 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Smart person and liquor are not to be put in the same sentence. Perhaps depends on the definition of "smart". | | |
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| ▲ | zugi 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's no explanation of whether he got sextorted, or what the plan was to get sensitive information from him. Or was the plan just to publicly humiliate him in hopes he'd get replaced by someone less capable? |
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| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > no explanation “U.S. officials last year concluded that Chinese citizen Alice Huang, then a top executive at Megaspeed International, was sharing information with the Chinese government while working with Nvidia to build data centers in Asia” [1]. It could be as simple as getting the CEO to override controls when signing a deal. It could be any of the perks one gets with physical access to a person and their devices. And we know there are police reports and investigations in multiple countries. We also know this administration has been, corruptly or negligently, quashing them. [1] https://www.wsj.com/tech/chinese-executive-close-to-nvidia-c... | |
| ▲ | paxy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That's the point of an investigation. We don't know, but will find out. | |
| ▲ | _heimdall 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | If the woman was in fact a CCP spy, and I have no idea if that is actually the case, it would absolutely not have been a plan only for humiliation. If a country successfully compromises a foreign asset in such a major way they'd lean on that as hard as they can, and that'd mean carefully planning various strategies to extract information from the asset. | |
| ▲ | ytoawwhra92 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A lot of this sort of espionage is carried out without a specific end goal. The purpose is just to cultivate a relationship that can be exploited if the opportunity to do so presents itself. | |
| ▲ | stephbook 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Watch him enter his PIN and extract mails while he's in the shower. Suck information out of him with years of military academy training. Just listen in on phone calls when you happen to be nearby. The possibilities are endless. | |
| ▲ | windward 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >sextorted Cute, but don't we already have a term for when lies are used to obtain sexual consent? | |
| ▲ | jackmott42 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | what is with the set of people who will just glaze powerful people constantly, no matter the circumstance? Jensen is gonna be ok without you trolls. relax. | | |
| ▲ | halsafar 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Equally confused by the people who grovel at their feet and quicky jump to their defense. Jensen is in the class of people who could run you over with their car, not stop, and barely be inconvenienced by the outcome. Why should society defend someone whose money does that job better? |
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| ▲ | steele 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I hope bossman sees your uncritical support! | |
| ▲ | rvz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Definitely blackmailed, sextorted for sensitive information about Nvidia. Either he was going to admit it or the other side would have leaked it. Jensen ruined it for himself regardless. The plan from the other side (spies) was likely to leak this, and get Lori Huang to file a divorce to take half of Jensen's NVDA shares. So it is all up to her now. |
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| ▲ | HelloUsername 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Related: "Alleged Chinese spy had 'close relationship' with Nvidia boss Jensen Huang" 29.oct.2026 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50293047 248 comments |
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| ▲ | corimaith 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I do like how the people who expressed skepticism at the media then aren't talking now in this thread. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The top comment is attempting to trivialize the news... | | |
| ▲ | bigyabai an hour ago | parent [-] | | ...because HN's title is editorialized, and exacerbates the linked statement. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It’s really not for anyone with a modicum of experience and knowledge around corporate boards. | | |
| ▲ | bigyabai 37 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It is editorialized, and doesn't match the title or contents of the statement. HN has a rule about titles to avoid derailed threads like this. | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross a few seconds ago | parent [-] | | Eh, the original title is meaningless. “A Statement” isn’t a title. It’s common for functionally untitled works to get a title here. All of which distracts from the misinformation that Huang is not being investigated by his Board. |
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| ▲ | everfrustrated 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I guess people are wondering why this is such a big deal... If Jensen knew this Singapore company was really a Chinese front then he's complicit in evading US export controls which is jail time. Sleeping with their executive causes lots of questions to be asked. Did he override company due diligence on export controls to China, etc. At the very least it gives the US government a reason to look into nvidia's export controls processes which are probably severely lacking. |
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| ▲ | jckahn an hour ago | parent [-] | | He's not going to jail. Even if he hypothetically does, Trump will just pardon him. |
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| ▲ | jawiggins 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| On one hand, huge moral failing for him. On another, huge Chinese inflicted damage to the U.S. economy when they directly target the CEO of our largest company. Does this count as a grey zone action? When does it elevate to an outright act of economic sabotage? |
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| ▲ | _heimdall 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I obviously don't know why the Chinese would have done this, assuming she was a spy at all, but I have to assume it was more related to information and access rather than economic sabotage. Compromising Jensen like this, again if she was a spy, would be extremely difficult to pull off. If I were the CCP, I'd much rather use that leverage and access to try to extract information and have a spy close to him to push Nvidia's future decisions, whether he knows he's being manipulated or not at that point would come down to whether they believed they had sufficient leverage to keep him compliant. |
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| ▲ | paxy 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Does Nvidia want to investigate its own illegal shipments of GPUs to China via Singapore? Because that's exactly what pulling on this thread will uncover. |
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| ▲ | jacquesm an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | If you have a day to spare: try finding out how many companies have been launched in .sg, .uk that just so happen to have Chinese nationals as their founders and who (1) want to buy large numbers of GPUS and (2) have seen their turnover skyrocket around the time of the block of Chinese companies direct access to frontier level models. | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > Does Nvidia want to investigate its own illegal shipments of GPUs to China via Singapore? They do if they want to avoid looking like criminals in front of the Congress! |
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| ▲ | mandeepj 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Huang most public statements were ridiculously pro-China in the last few years. Coincident? I do not think so. https://finance.yahoo.com/technology/ai/articles/nvidia-ceo-... https://www.facebook.com/Benzinga/posts/nvidia-ceo-jensen-hu... https://www.reuters.com/world/china/nvidia-says-us-export-co... https://archive.ph/TkBwb (Nvidia chief Jensen Huang condemns US chip curbs on China as ‘a failure’) |
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| ▲ | metalspot 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | it is not a coincidence that maybe some faction of the CIA that feels threatened because Trump takes Huang's advice over theirs would leak this to try to blackmail or destroy him. But so far the only criminal act and threat to national security that has been proven to have occurred is the leaking of this information. | |
| ▲ | coro_1 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Alternatively, NVIDIA simply benefits tremendously from enabling sales of new generation chips to China. | | |
| ▲ | dlcarrier 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also from domestic sales, most of which will be running open-weight models, most of which are from China. |
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| ▲ | dstu 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You think there needs to be a conspiracy for a GPU company to be in favour of selling GPUs into one of the largest markets for GPUs in the world? | | | |
| ▲ | vkou 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Meanwhile Trump, Moscow Mitch, and all their friends seem to be ridiculously pro-Russia... With one of them having an 'open for business' policy, where he receives large sums of crypto, airplanes, and other considerations from anyone who is willing to pay (and has received loans and cash injections in the past). Pardon me if I find it difficult to get worked up about an accusation of treason and disloyalty from an openly corrupt and treasonous executive. |
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| ▲ | easton 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| …for possibly being the target of a foreign intelligence operation. I don’t think they are trying to say he himself was intentionally doing something bad. Maybe the title should be changed? |
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| ▲ | 2OEH8eoCRo0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Foreign intelligence didn't force him to have an affair. He should be smart enough to spot a honey trap. | | |
| ▲ | Rapzid 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Honey trap. | | | |
| ▲ | stavros 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is the problem that he had an affair, or that he was targeted by a spy? If he were single, would it have been OK? Or if he had an affair with a non-spy? | | |
| ▲ | JumpCrisscross 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > the problem that he had an affair, or that he was targeted by a spy? The problem is he was close to a Chinese spy while advocating for increasing exports to China. Then, when public reports emerged about Alice Huang’s true identity, he tried to ignore it. As did the White House. All the way until electoral reality made it clear the cover-up was over. |
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| ▲ | impossiblefork 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I mean, it's not like he's in intelligence. He runs a graphics card firm. Surely he is allowed to do what he likes. | |
| ▲ | hbarka 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So guilty until proven innocent? | | |
| ▲ | nullishdomain 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > In his own memo to staff, Huang said he was “deeply sorry” for the affair. > “I was unfaithful to my wife,” he said. “My actions hurt her and our children. There is no excuse for what I did.” | | |
| ▲ | throw310822 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's a problem with his wife. Not with shareholders or the company. I don't even understand why these people accept to excuse themselves publicly about personal matters. | |
| ▲ | aigalaxiome 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Totally shocked that he had an affair. Not saying its OK, but, men have affairs every day. It does not prove that he was compromised by the Chinese spy. | | |
| ▲ | creato 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | The spy had control of information damaging to Jensen. This is the definition of "compromised". | |
| ▲ | hackyhacky 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You find it hard to believe that a man would cheat on his wife? | | |
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| ▲ | InsideOutSanta 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is not a court. | | |
| ▲ | NooneAtAll5 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | why would that matter? | | |
| ▲ | hackyhacky 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Because "guilty until proven innocent" applies to courts. You can get fired from your job even without evidence that meets a specific legal threshold. Moreover, he's already been proven to be both unethical enough and stupid enough to cheat on his wife with a foreign agent. That's not the kind of person that the board would want to run a multi-billion dollar company. | | |
| ▲ | NooneAtAll5 an hour ago | parent [-] | | > You can get fired from your job even without evidence that meets a specific legal threshold if your country provides adequate legal protections, no you cannot be presumption of innocence is general approach that morally must be applied everywhere |
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| ▲ | viklove 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Seems like there are a lot of NVDA shareholders/fanboys in the comments rushing in to defend a billionaire. | | |
| ▲ | sunaookami 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm more shocked by the people here finding it normal to cheat on your wife. | | |
| ▲ | ungovernableCat 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Affairs sound so last century when you spend your weekends doing ayahuasca trips with your polycule who all work in AI and love effective alturism. |
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| ▲ | bar8uyr 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Let's be fair.. If you invested in nvidia ever you probably aren't the sharpest crayon in the toolbox, and the likelihood of having morals is basically none existent. | |
| ▲ | hackyhacky 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | They probably live in the same data center as the Musk fanboys. | |
| ▲ | 100721 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is HackerNews. Folks here simp for billionaires all the time, and the userbase skews ultra-wealthy. | | |
| ▲ | elxr 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > the userbase skews ultra-wealthy. It's a mostly anonymous public forum. The topics covered here aren't anywhere near "wealthy people hobbies" either. It's no porsche forum. It's not even a woodworking forum. Programming is an extremely affordable hobby. | |
| ▲ | globalnode 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | i like to think of the people here as "aspirational" |
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| ▲ | avazhi 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Guilty of having an affair? Nobody cares about affairs my brother, unless it was with a child. If anything having an affair with an of-age consenting female would probably boost his stock in 2026. |
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| ▲ | ReptileMan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Is he? Billionaires being sexually desirable is not exactly uncommon occurrence. |
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| ▲ | viklove 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not intentionally, but falling for a honey trap while cosplaying as a playboy is not a good look for an exec. Huang just showing he's a bit of a child at the wheel. | | |
| ▲ | gizajob 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | At the same time it’s easy to say he’s “a bit of a child at the wheel” when the wheel is of a $5 trillion company leading the biggest boom of the 21st century. It’s hard for anyone to keep their head and their ego in check in such an unprecedented circumstance. If one thinks it’s easy it’s because one hasn’t been there. Like how everyone is courageous until the bullets start flying. Jensen has rockstar-like adulation and I can only imagine how many finance bro tongues up his ass. Having the tongue of a Chinese spy in there too isn’t much of a surprise. |
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| ▲ | dogscatstrees 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Will probably see a settlement Musk-style: Under the settlement: - Chairmanship: Musk was required to resign and was prohibited from serving as chairman for three years. - CEO position: He was allowed to remain CEO. - Financial penalty: Musk personally paid a $20 million penalty, and Tesla paid another $20 million. - Corporate oversight: Tesla was required to strengthen its board oversight and controls over Musk's public communications. NVIDIA does not have a board chair but an independent lead director. Not sure how this incident will affect the future structure. |
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| ▲ | hmokiguess 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Human after all |
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| ▲ | ftchd 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| https://nvidianews.nvidia.com/news/a-message-to-our-company ...guys? |
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| ▲ | c0rruptbytes 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| i believe he also admitted that she knew he was a spy as well |
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| ▲ | dw_arthur 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The idea that we can prevent Chinese espionage in AI is laughable. Like half the researchers are Chinese. If I as an American started working in Russia and came back to the United States the US government would not have that hard of a time getting me to talk about my work in Russia. Jensen Huang has cultural ties to China and it made it that much easier for him to decide to have an affair with a Chinese woman. |
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| ▲ | sumedh 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Jensen Huang has cultural ties to China Wasnt this family from Taiwan? | | |
| ▲ | machomaster 17 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Taiwan, the official name Republic of China (ROC). | |
| ▲ | dw_arthur 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yea you're right, I just looked it up. I'm in over my head speculating about what that means for his feelings and ties towards China. |
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| ▲ | rustystump 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| So many people downplay this in a weird way of almost saying cheating isnt bad or is acceptable rather than the obv line, other peoples personal lives are none of our business unless they run countries or trillion dollar companies
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| ▲ | touwer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Misleading title |
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| ▲ | brcmthrowaway 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sadly, there's too much money at stake for the cheating to be of any consequence. I'm seeing this as a final moral failing of society. If Jensen gets through this, as he will, it means that character doesn't matter. |
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| ▲ | gizajob 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Surely it takes character to get through it? It takes character to admit to human failings and weaknesses, especially when it’s extremely publicly. It’s not a mark of character to collapse and disappear out of contrition under such circumstances. Poor character would say “it never happened and I don’t even care anyway if it did or what you think”. |
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| ▲ | piyuv 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Silicon Valley was prescient |
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| ▲ | ViktorRay 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’s interesting one sees so many cases of intelligence services using female agents to target men in this way. Why doesn’t it happen the other way around as much? Why don’t you see intelligence services using male agents to target powerful women in a similar way as much? |
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| ▲ | ungovernableCat 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Almost all the CEOs of top companies by marketcap are straight men.
But even if that wasn't the case I think men and women are wired differently when it comes to pursuing after sex so your strategy would have to be different. The audience who pays for porn is almost exclusively male for example. Male porn stars usually cater to a gay male audience even though straight women outnumber gay men by a huge margin. If you look at literotica however, it flips and it's more of a female audience. | | |
| ▲ | machomaster 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Innate female hypergamy. It makes no sense to use a high-positioned male spy in order to catch a way less valuable woman. The whole point of spying is to use less to get more. |
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| ▲ | Xeronate 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | if you google it you will see its not true other than men holding the majority of positions of power | |
| ▲ | altmanaltman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You just don't hear it as often because there are far fewer females in such positions. But they try to go for all tiers of power and use honeypots of both sexes. It's well documented if you do a basic google search, look up Romeo Project, KGB swallows and ravens concept. Male honeypotters are under-representation in mainstream culture due to the sexist notion that only men can be seduced by sex and women somehow do not. | |
| ▲ | sham1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I mean, one reason for why we don't hear about male agents targeting powerful women is the sad fact that there aren't that many powerful women around, when compared to powerful men. Patriarchal social structure makes this sort of an attack more common against men than women. | |
| ▲ | hbcdbff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Newsflash: men and women are different | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Which woman do you think would make a valuable target? | | |
| ▲ | wmf 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Any national politician or major CEO. | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Name a few candidates that are worth being targets. For politicians, it's quite rare they fall for it - men or women. I can't off the top of my head recall any American one in the last few decades. For CEOs ... My question stands. |
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| ▲ | paulpauper 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Down 3% on XYZ platform, which is a tokenized proxy for NVDA. Maybe I will be buying the dip. It's close to the long-term $180 support... |
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| ▲ | king_magic 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Really disappointing. |
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| ▲ | andsoitis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It would be sad if the AI boom took a huge nosedive because someone couldn't keep their dick in their pants. |
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| ▲ | TacticalCoder 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > It would be sad if the AI boom took a huge nosedive because someone couldn't keep their dick in their pants. One CEO with a chinese spy and another CEO with an obvious Mossad asset. Would be sad indeed. | |
| ▲ | BLKNSLVR 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If the AI boom takes a massive nosedive because someone couldn't keep their dick in their pants, then there was no substance behind the boom. There might be some speculative volatility as a result of this sideshow, but if this is the pin that pops the bubble, then it was still a bubble. AI will be fine. | | |
| ▲ | andsoitis 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Nvidia supplies the top end hardware for training the best models. If Nvidia falls on hard time, it would affect training. |
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| ▲ | flowerlad 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| One thing I find difficult to understand about Nvidia's and Jensen Huang's position on China is that they keep stressing that the "Chinese government has strictly limited imports of the H200 in favor of its own chip companies," as though any sale of H200 chips should be seen as a win against those restrictions. Does anyone believe the Chinese government really wants to "strictly limit" imports of Nvidia chips? Of course they want the chips. No one is buying the act. We are smart enough to see through China's attempt to portray these purchases as favors to the US. Except Nvidia, apparently--though playing along conveniently serves its business interests. |
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| ▲ | throwawaythekey 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This whole Jensen Arc is weird in many ways. 1. Too many overlook the plain economic explanation for Jensen to cooperate with China. 2. Too many assume this is bad for america. 3. There seems to be a presumption that he crossed a line, other than in his marriage. Seems like the anti-AI movement is very hungry for a scalp to me. |
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| ▲ | nunez an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| okay, so jensen is gonna get sacked, right? i mean if federal employees serve very long sentences in prison for the same "mistake," he's gotta face some kind of music, right? |
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| ▲ | 01100011 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| How much of the recent decline in AI stocks was due to insider trading on this news? The previous explanation of it all being due to datacenter-hating dems taking power in the US seemed credible last week but in light of this one has to wonder. |
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| ▲ | small_model 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The leather jacket went to his head thought he was God, ripe for the picking by Chinese honeypot operation. |
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| ▲ | BadBadJellyBean 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The fall of Jensen Huang was not on my bingo card for this year. |
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| ▲ | paxy 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Fall" is a bit premature. He is too valuable to the company to fire. | | |
| ▲ | arthurcolle 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He is definitely on his way out. Name a single F500 CEO that has ever survived an affair admission | | |
| ▲ | peri-cl 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sergey Brin in 2013? Not technically a CEO, but comparable. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergey_Brin#Personal_life ("...after Brin had an extramarital affair with a Google Glass colleague") Steve Jobs had a daughter he tried to pretend wasn't his (the namesake of the Apple "Lisa"), https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lisa_Brennan-Jobs ("Jobs initially denied paternity for several years, which led to a legal case and various media reports...") | | |
| ▲ | lkjaglk34t 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Every single google exec has had extreme sex issues. Andy Rubin was forced out for forcing blowjobs from many people at Google. Eric Schmidt has always fucked/funded twenty year olds including Dario's own wife!! |
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| ▲ | gizajob 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It’s his company and he admitted it? It’s a human failing and it’s his issue to deal with. Nobody else has grown Nvidia from where it started to where it is. Jensen isn’t a politician and you’re missing who would replace him at the helm of his own company? Would it be grounds for Zuckerberg to step down if he had an affair? Of course not. | |
| ▲ | paxy 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Name a single F500 CEO who was in this situation while running a $5 trillion company | |
| ▲ | diath 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Jeff Bezos? | | |
| ▲ | arthurcolle 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | No longer CEO of Amazon | | |
| ▲ | paxy 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | He resigned many years after the affair became public | | |
| ▲ | arthurcolle 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | He did have to give up a large chunk of equity in that divorce | | |
| ▲ | youngtaff 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Did he or was it already MacKenzie Scott‘s as she was Amazon’s co-founder? | | |
| ▲ | arthurcolle 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Mackenzie Scott was a bookkeeper in Amazon's early days while married to Jeff Bezos but I don't think she is universally recognized as a cofounder of Amazon. This has come up before on this site and I personally don't care one way or another. Her stake is from the divorce, not from options granted as part of employment or investment... |
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| ▲ | wuschel 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I am generally curious: Why is that? Is it because they expose a weakness that allows their enemies to cut them from power, because it is a moral flaw, because they breach employment contract, ...? | |
| ▲ | dogscatstrees 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is Bill Gates in this club? What about dear leader before he was president and just a CEO? | |
| ▲ | madaxe_again 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Aye. It'll be 25% off the market cap tomorrow, as the location of the CEO's penis is the most important thing in business performance. | | |
| ▲ | malux85 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is important when it's inside a nation state spy (allegedly) |
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| ▲ | rvz 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Elon Musk | | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | He survived the whole SEC thing, I think tesla board realized that the stock was already in trouble and him leaving would make a bad situation worse, when they needed to raise money. This was in 2019, before Tesla's huge post-Covid turnround. | |
| ▲ | arthurcolle 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This one is good, I'll grant this an honorable mention. My instinct here is to say that serial unmarried "bachelors" / IVF enthusiasts don't count in the same way as a Jensen or a bank CEO type. |
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| ▲ | BadBadJellyBean 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Everything is possible. But I agree it's too early to call. But still... | |
| ▲ | paulpauper 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | No one is immune when it comes to a public company. Private is a different matter. |
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| ▲ | goodcake3963 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Sending women to spy on powerful man, oldest trick in the book... |
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| ▲ | a34729t 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Companies need to go back to providing hot secretary/mistress (of preferred gender) for key personnel. |
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| ▲ | davidguetta 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Literally a B serie plot |
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| ▲ | nemo44x 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Nerds in power need to remember that if a gorgeous women is coming on to you then she’s probably a spy. Imagine how many don’t get caught! |
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| ▲ | Metacelsus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hmm, looks like maybe he was "not consistently candid in his communications with the board"... Now where have I heard this before? |
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| ▲ | happyPersonR 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| lol this feels like an attempt to put a nepo-baby in charge of nvidia because there's already ones in charge of every other company and PE doesn't like that they don't have one of their friends kids ruining nvidia like they do every other company. |
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| ▲ | whatever1 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I don’t buy the story folks, timing seems very weird. The fact that Trump was briefed a year ago and did not say a word. The fact that the story erupts in the weekend and not during a trade day. We are missing big part of the story. |
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| ▲ | georgemcbay 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > I don’t buy the story folks, timing seems very weird. > The fact that Trump was briefed a year ago and did not say a word. Easiest thing in the world to believe. Why would Trump comment on it to the public? The very last thing Trump wants people to spend any time thinking about is wealthy and powerful people engaging in sexual impropriety. | | |
| ▲ | whatever1 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, but why release it now? I don’t see who wins by orchestrating the release these news. It was not a random leak. |
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| ▲ | s3p 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What a sticky situation to be in. it was strange to see the Nvidia spokespeople so outwardly supportive of the arrangement between them at first. I remember reading that they said the US government would have let them know if she was a threat. Also probably doesn't feel the best to be his wife or family right now. Hope this doesn't spell more problems for them politically. But if it does, it's probably warranted ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ |
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| ▲ | BatchJob 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| And here I thought all the self dealing financials would take him down (it will). A little surprised the govt found out so late. They are supposed to be on top of high profile spy targets. |
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| ▲ | 2OEH8eoCRo0 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Crazy how naive HN is about foreign intelligence. There seems to be disbelief that this is a thing that can happen. |
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| ▲ | throw310822 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Plot twist: the Chinese honeypot's goal was only to attract Huang into adultery- and the puritanism of Americans would do the rest and sabotage the company that is instrumental in the US leadership in AI. |
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| ▲ | lifeisloving 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| US politicians are all suddenly going to become anti AI in the coming weeks and months. Them leaking this isn't surprising, they have to show the public after those midterm results that they're going to start holding the trumpian technocrats accountable. |
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| ▲ | gizajob 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | “Let’s destroy the only driver of revenue growth in the S&P500!!! Yaaaay!” Said no politician ever. | | |
| ▲ | lifeisloving 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Huh thats an extermely simplistic read no offense. Polticians say what makes them popular, most Americans are not concerned about AI fueled gains in the markets atm. Politicians are already reversing course this week in droves. Have you paid attention to the last few days? Polticians are absolutely switching up on everything. AI doesn't provide companies economic value either, other than through speculation on stock prices. Its just cost companies a lot of money and contributes nothing to actual revenue. You'll see a lot of people playing musical chairs around this issue, nobody wants to be the person who rides that sinking ship to the bottom. The smart money in the markets also seem to recognize this. Theres no point in continuing to die on a hill for AI for the sake of stock market gains, when its clear that its not going to continue to fuel those gains for much longer.. The mean reversion has already begun, these AI stocks are down 50% this month... Politicans will chase that trend in either direction, its not about if number goes up, you dont want to be the person screaming about how great something is after its clearly started to die/rejected by the public. The AI gravy train is over. | | |
| ▲ | gizajob 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Did micron or Nvidia stop making money overnight or something? Are you going to be using more or less AI in five or ten years time? Tickets for the train are on sale. |
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| ▲ | etchalon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Will remain CEO and suffer no consequences. |
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| ▲ | dogscatstrees 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I mean look at Musk. Does his board investigate him for his many egregious acts. | | |
| ▲ | awgneo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | No, but I think investigations into Musk are going to increase with the recent changes to the US congress. | |
| ▲ | mandeepj 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Musk had to give up his Tesla chairmanship and some other control. Although the latter part is debatable. | | |
| ▲ | dogscatstrees 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | He didn't voluntarily give it up. It was part of a settlement. And who's on the token chair now? Don't confuse chairmanship with operational control. | | |
| ▲ | mandeepj 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | "He didn't voluntarily give it up. It was part of a settlement. " That's what I meant with my earlier comment. You wrote, "Does his board investigate him for his many egregious acts.", his demotion resulted from the Board's and the SEC's investigation. |
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| ▲ | threethirtytwo 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| National security for what? Gate keeping ai? lol. Theater. |
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| ▲ | avazhi 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| wtf is this misleading title? |
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| ▲ | yieldcrv 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| obvious Lou Pai style play here they’re setting in motion a plan to get a divorce judge to order the selling of their shares before the bubble bursts making an otherwise prohibited transaction to be legal I don’t think that was totally planned during the affair, but the opportunity arised with the election and created a reason for Jensen to admit it so decisively after everyone knows she was a spy |
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| ▲ | metalspot 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The better question would be who is leaking classified US intelligence in an attempt to blackmail Jensen Huang and/or destroy the US's most valuable AI infrastructure asset? The attack isn't coming from China. It is coming from the NY Times, FT, and presumably some employees of the CIA who are committing felonies. |
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| ▲ | cuvinny 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I think it is more likely that US Intelligence leaked this because Huang was already being actively compromised. By leaking it you remove the leverage the CCP had. | |
| ▲ | aigalaxiome 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | 100%!!! | |
| ▲ | collabs 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wouldn't be surprised if we see some polymarket or kalshi bet about nVidia... Or some put option... |
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| ▲ | ahmedfromtunis 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why is the press release from the board of directors on a first name basis? Shouldn't it use "Mr Huang" or something of the sorts? |
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| ▲ | farseer 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Side question but how do hot female spies convince themselves to sleep with aged billionaires (or bug eyed government high ups for that matter), what is in it for them? |
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| ▲ | smallstepforman 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Are you that naive? Since chimps females have been genetically programmed to seek the Alpha of the species. Jensen is smart, resourceful, made a fortune, he's actually a great dude, he'd be a catch for most Chinese women. Aged or not, he can still exert influence, father offspring that will be generously looked after. He has many stories that would thrill most younger women, especially with traditional family values like the Chinese. Everything to gain and nothing to lose. | |
| ▲ | gizajob 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What’s the easiest way for a woman to get into 10 Downing Street? Suck Boris’ Johnson. |
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