| ▲ | eleventen 18 hours ago |
| > Sonarr, Lidarr, Radarr, etc. Every time I read about setting it up, it just sounds like a resource-intensive mess that’s fundamentally prone to frequent breakage. That’s the opposite of what I’m looking for when choosing self-hosted services. I just checked on my *arr stack. Sonarr and Radarr idle at 157MB and 159MB of memory and approximately no CPU. Jellyfin currently idles at 330MB. I'm not sure where you got this impression from. I grant these tools are complicated and have somewhat clumsy UX, but they aren't especially heavy to run and are not fragile. OP, point your :robot: at https://github.com/subdavis/selfhosted/blob/main/docker-comp... and ask for an explanation. It's a single compose file that illustrates how the *arrs, transmission, and jellyfin all work together. I'm sure you can set it up :) |
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| ▲ | Cyph0n 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Indeed. The other thing to point out is that, once you have set them up, they will chug along fine for years with near zero input. Here is the stack I recommend: * Radarr (movies) with optional second instance for 4K versions * Sonarr (shows) with optional second instance for 4K versions * Sonarr (anime), separate instance to have control over quality settings * Prowlarr (tracker/indexer management) * SABnzbd (Usenet) * qBittorrent (torrents) I would also recommend consulting the TRaSH guide to tune your setup and ensure you’re grabbing quality releases. From there, the next logical step is Profilarr :) |
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| ▲ | m4xp 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I have this stack for 1 year and had 0 issues, 0 maintenance.
It just werks. Im having problem on some new releases where it downloads clear malware with. Exe files, its detecting it and not moving them to my jellyfine storage but it always requires manual intervention. I havent been able to find a way to stop sonarr from grabbing releases before their official releas and with n amount of seedwrs/leechers | |
| ▲ | khriss 10 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Instead of multiple Radarr and Sonarr instances, wouldn't it be simpler to have multiple quality profiles on a single instance? | | |
| ▲ | charlesabarnes 10 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Multiple instances are needed if you want multiple versions of a given movie or episode. For example, I have a Dolby Vision device that works great with certain files, but on some other devices the file works poorly and doesn't transcode well. Plex handles multiple files fine. Definitely not a usecase for everyone | |
| ▲ | wisidisi 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Obviously the instance is to hide away from wife, kids and rest of the family. I recommend stashapp. | | |
| ▲ | ibizaman 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I have a setup where I tag kids friendly movies with a specific radarr and sonarr tag. It gets written to the NFO so it trickles down to Jellyfin. The kids have their own Jellyfin account that can only see assets with that tag. It’s extremely simple to setup https://blog.tiserbox.com/posts/2025-03-01-parental-control-... | |
| ▲ | Gareth321 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | +1. Many people do not see the value in storing their own adult content but mine is high quality, full length, VR, niche, and full of the stuff and actresses I like. | |
| ▲ | ang_cire 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or you could be considerate and set them up with their own instances (of stash), too! |
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| ▲ | fyredge 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Curious question, I host a single instance of sonarr that supports anime through tags. Is there an advantage to hosting 2 instances instead? | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Single instance works fine, but a separate instance allows you to set global quality settings that are more accurate for anime: https://trash-guides.info/Sonarr/Sonarr-Quality-Settings-Fil... | | |
| ▲ | ffsm8 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can configure quality profile via the tags too (I do have separate profiles for anime vs liveaction).
I didn't even set the tag, as I don't intermingle them in the same directory, and automatic tagging by sub path is possible too So I'm also surprised why someone would configure a second instance for that | | |
| ▲ | russelg 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If using the TRaSH guides (synced automatically with recyclarr), with all their quality profiles etc, I find that those mostly don't make sense for anime. It's easier for me to keep the anime specific stuff separate, different naming conventions, different episode numbering, etc. | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can you explain? Are you manually setting tags for every anime you add? How does it work with requests made thru Seerr? | | |
| ▲ | ffsm8 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not using seerr, I've used overseer and jellyseer for a while years ago, but as I'm the only person interacting with radarr/sonarr... The value wasn't there for me. I suspect it's would still work, but haven't tried it out Sonarr/radarr has the ability to configure multiple library roots. Those are available in a drop-down when adding a new series through the (son|rad)arr interface This is eg /media/(anime-series|series) for me. Then I defined a rule for those paths to add an anime|lifeaction Tag. This then controls the tracker and quality profiles, as well as language preferences etc | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ah, I know about root paths, but didn’t know about path-specific rules. Thanks, will check this out. And yeah, it should work fine with Seerr. |
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| ▲ | arcastroe 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | sabnzbd can be replaced with nzbdav or similar tools (infinidysk, altmount) if you want to free up storage and stream directly from usenet. Or, even better, the entire arr stack can be replaced with stremio to just keep everything on-demand instead of curating a library at all. | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | “Even better” is relative. Some people like having media stored locally instead of relying on torrent streaming availability. Usenet streaming sounds cool, but with releases being DMCAd so frequently, I don’t see how it would be practical for anything but the most recent content. Also, I imagine that Stremio without Debrid (or equivalent) is kind of a terrible experience most of the time. | | |
| ▲ | dawnerd 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I tried it once and it barely worked at all. Plex would just show everything as unavailable. Really awful experience even when it did work. | |
| ▲ | jonnyscholes 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you're not worried about black-ish pixels, it's surprisingly reliable. |
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| ▲ | steezeburger 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > stremio Is this the latest rendition of Popcorn Time? | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yep basically. The real magic is when you combine it with a Debrid service, which essentially puts a cache in front of torrents. If the torrent has been downloaded before, you get a direct hosted stream instead of having to stream your movie from active seeders (i.e. buffering hell). | | |
| ▲ | steezeburger 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | That sounds slick. I'll have to check it out! Where does that hosted stream live? I'll have to peep their docs. Sounds interesting | | |
| ▲ | LaurensBER 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | A debrid service is a paid hosted cache so I guess it usually lives on wherever they can source cheap storage and disk cache ;) the original source is the torrent. I have never had any issues with the speed though and I regularly stream 50+ GB files. |
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| ▲ | shepherdjerred 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | With agents I am surprised nobody has combined Plex + qbittorrrent + seerr + *arr into one mega app | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I actually prefer the separation. Limited blast radius is one advantage, but I also think that the media server and downloader should be separate things anyways. But I do think that there is an opportunity to merge Sonarr and Radarr. | |
| ▲ | deaton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There are a million docker-compose files floating around for exactly this that just need a little bit of configuration. | |
| ▲ | vachina 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is, it was an Android app called Popcorn Time. Quite a feat considering it was developed without AI help. | |
| ▲ | cowlevel 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | That app would be blatantly illegal | | |
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| ▲ | aborsy 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The interfaces of arr stack are ugly, and linking qbit to indexer manager to arr app is needlessly complex. Maybe there could be plugins in one app like qbit. | | |
| ▲ | mbesto 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Sonarr just got a big UI upgrade FYI | |
| ▲ | navanchauhan 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I used to think so too, but now I usually just have Muse or another AI agent on my box do those things for me. I should maybe create a slimmed down API first *arr stack equivalent then hmm |
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| ▲ | QGQBGdeZREunxLe 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Prowlarr replaces Jackett? https://github.com/Jackett/Jackett | | |
| ▲ | kristofferR 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah, it interfaces way better with Radarr/Sonarr. I still run Jackett though, good for manual searches. |
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| ▲ | troupo 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > I would also recommend consulting the TRaSH guide to tune your setup Yes and no. E.g. I find Trash guide to quality profiles/settings useless. I wish *arr apps shipped with decent modern quality by default. No, I'm not downloading and watching a Quantum Quality UXZHD Post-Partum HDR BVIU-49.3 format. No one is. E.g. profilarr pulls in a more sane set of profiles: https://dictionarry.dev/quality-profile | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | TRaSH is definitely for power users. It becomes much easier to work with when configured with Recyclarr, but there is still a learning curve. One of the most valuable things for me is the ability to rank different aspects of releases across media types. For example, I prefer dual audio anime, unless the sub is much higher quality. Same idea for surround sound and release groups. I also want to ignore things like dual audio that is non-English, or hardcoded French subs, etc. | | |
| ▲ | troupo 40 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > It becomes much easier to work with when configured with Recyclarr I tried it once, and it just polluted the profiles with dozens of Trash Guide profiles :) So I went with Profilarr which has sensible setups like "2160p Quality" etc. > One of the most valuable things for me is the ability to rank different aspects of releases across media types. Oh, this is something I tried to setup as well, and failed. It doesn't help that IIRC languages are not properly indexed/set up in ^arrs if I remember. Like you have to set "language = 53" for English or something like that. I think all this complexity is down to the fact that ^arr apps grew organically on top of other things that grew organically, so the data models are all screwed up, and no one has the time or knowledge to clean it up and make better. |
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| ▲ | mrheosuper 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| In this day of vibeslop, it's insane no one thinks to combine all these into single app. The best we can do is having single docker compose file that has to manually point each service into each other. A single dream app that combines: Media server, crawler, downloader, subtitle, cloudflare bypass etc, with plugin support. |
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| ▲ | ehaughee an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | People have been doing just that: 1. Arrmada - https://github.com/tristenlammi/Arrmada
2. Mydia - https://github.com/getmydia/mydia
3. MediaManager - https://github.com/maxdorninger/MediaManager
4. Scryer - https://github.com/scryer-media/scryer Note: I've not tried any of these | |
| ▲ | mirashii 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I have one that combines most of this. I left Jellyfin out so far because it has clients for all the various devices, but I’ve replaced the arr stack, sabnzbd, jellyseerr, kavita, audio bookshelf, etc into one Rust binary and a SQLite database. As a bonus, uses local LLMs/decision models to replace a lot of the custom regex based detection of the arr stack, and a mini built in agent with tools for finding, downloading, and manipulating media so that I can find Spanish language content for my kid a bit more easily, as language stuff being tagged is still pretty weak in the ecosystem. It represents a couple weeks of on and off work, an experiment into how far I can push these tools to make sure I’m understanding them and not falling behind, and I like it a lot. I’ve considered open sourcing it, but to be honest, I don’t really want the burden of being a maintainer, and I have no interest in implementing or maintaining things that fall outside my use case, and so it’s just my own little toy. I imagine that many folks will end up doing the same given a bit of time. | | |
| ▲ | the_lucifer 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > I’ve considered open sourcing it, but to be honest, I don’t really want the burden of being a maintainer Honestly you could open-source it with a not-maintained disclaimer just as a way for others to take it to not have to redo the work working with Agents and just build off of your existing work (and you can turn off github issues etc. to prevent nags). I for one would love to poke around with it and point an agent at it to see what it can do |
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| ▲ | hackernudes 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I agree. What is stopping me is primarily the metadata stuff. For example, Sonarr runs a closed-source service called Skyhook which exists to make efficient use of TheTVDB. Since Sonarr is free open source software maybe they don't have to pay (looking at https://www.thetvdb.com/api-information and https://opencollective.com/sonarr). My dream app is split into two parts. One that serves podcasts, music, books (with OPDS so I can browse my library with KOReader), tv, movies, other multimedia (youtube, whatever else). The other handling the metadata APIs and downloading files from different sources (torrent trackers, torrent DHT, nntp, etc...). Sort of like uber-Jellyfin + uber-Arr. I guess I can probably get a personal API key for TheTVDB, etc... and develop my own sort of proxy and it wouldn't be so bad. Hmm... | |
| ▲ | m4xp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There arent many vibeslop that actually have a userbase tho, who wants a program that changes radically and is not stable? | |
| ▲ | jerpint 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This basically all comes for free in woltspace [0]. Woltspace believes that you should no longer bother building “scalable” apps, but personal apps that literally only run on your own machine. You can access them from anywhere (cloudflare, tailscale eg) and continuously improve them with your wolts over time - from anywhere. It’s all open source and harness agnostic [1]. I’m the park ranger for life aka maintainer of the project. Did a recent YouTube video with what i think the future of open source multiagent setups will look like [2] Happy to chat more about it [0] https://woltspace.com/
[1] https://github.com/jerpint/woltspace
[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-4khO7o0XQ | | |
| ▲ | shepherdjerred 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | This is not reasonable for complex software, which the *arr stack most certainly is. Most people do not want to solve the problem of: "how do I download and match arbitrary user-uploaded media across multiple databases" | | |
| ▲ | jerpint 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Im not sure I follow, but the point of woltspace is to get out the way and let you build |
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| ▲ | KPGv2 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well, it's apparently easy, so you should do it. Literally my only AI use case (I'm retired) is having it write all the software for things I want to do in my life, without having to take the time to do it. For example, the app my kids' school uses to communicate with parents SUCKS (it's so slow), so I wrote something that logs in, pulls new updates, and feeds them to the same AI that manages my calendar/to-do list. By "I" wrote something, I mean I had an AI do it in about ten minutes. To your actual point, there used to be a philosophy among the tech literate that it's preferable to have something do one thing and do it very well. | |
| ▲ | darkwater 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | So we monoliths are now back in vogue instead of microservices? /s (And I agree, for most workloads monoliths are much easier to grasp and deploy than microservices) | | |
| ▲ | mrheosuper 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | With the userbase of 10(at max), i think monolith is fine. | |
| ▲ | KPGv2 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hold on, micro services were the original thing and you piped everything together. Just look at how bash scripts work. grep | sed | awk | ping | nectar -a | echo "holy cow" | vim -a -o -f --my-homie-we-win-this *.o Now you don't need fifteen apps, all of which do text gripping. You just use the same grep. Same for the above setup: I don't give a crap about BitTorrent, so why would I want RAM devoted to running anything related to that? RAM is expensive, yo! |
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| ▲ | benoau 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There's been two major disruptions in my experience. First was Lidarr went for months last year (was it this year?) unable to search/add musicians due to complications with how they were relaying those searches. It took them a long time to refactor that part of the software and make it usable again. Second was the retirement of Readarr, the ebook-version of this software, which was an absolute shame. But aside from that this is pretty much set-and-forget software. Although the setting is harder than it should be, should be much easier to favour smallest x265 rips at <resolution>, lossless audio, season rips with subtitles. |
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| ▲ | BlueSialia 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | What did you replace Readarr with? | | |
| ▲ | benoau 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm trying out LazyLibrarian but I don't really like it, I've been manually going to Anna's Archive. | | |
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| ▲ | figassis 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I build my own version, single binary that does every thing. While I built it, I learned I cannot make it open source or distribute, bc it might be illegal to do so, so I assume many people have built that, but you're always locked into the narrowly scoped lego pieces. So I enjoy my media now, without hassles, all the features I need, none I don't. I hope one day I get to share. |
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| ▲ | j1elo 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Solution is easy, in fact there are 2 solutions: 1. Clear that "might", it either is or isn't. An AI can get you 90% there, maybe the definitive confirmation would be good from a lawyer. 2. None of this matters if you share it from a foreign code forge and an anonymous pseudonym. | | |
| ▲ | dgently7 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | ianal, but presumably you could share a research document that explains the theoretical kinds of broad strokes of an all in one type system, and how youd verify it works. if anyone decided on their own to put that it into a local model and generate their own version of something that met the theoretical spec thats their own deal... | | |
| ▲ | figassis 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | To the parent, I am not about to FAFO. To you, I am also not about to FAFO. Good luck. |
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| ▲ | internet101010 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Same. I made the mistake of adding the downloader to it at the start but brute forced my way through. Single Rust binary for all of the *arrs + sabnzbd is nice though. Unfortunately it is not something I am comfortable making public due to the all-in-oneness of it. Almost all of the time went to to the downloader (usenet is more complicated than I thought). If I had just focused on the basics (sonarr, radarr, seerr) I could probably could have knocked it out in a day or so. | | |
| ▲ | Cyph0n 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | It is important to point out that “a day or so” - or even the ability to spin up your own version - is only possible because these projects already exist. Without a tested and validated reference implementation that already accounts for the numerous edge conditions and quirks of media releases, APIs, etc., your vibecoded version would have taken much longer to iterate on. | | |
| ▲ | figassis 9 hours ago | parent [-] | | That's fine, I am certain that if laws allowed, these projects would have been exactly as intended. Not their fault and nothing against them. They solved the problem the best way they could. |
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| ▲ | bottled_poe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is a fine sample of Cunningham’s law in action. |
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| ▲ | birdsongs 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think it just sounds intimidating if one hasn't tried, but they are really well designed pieces of software, that are relatively simple to set up (just have to go through the motions and connect everything with API keys). Highly recommend them to OP. My stack went down once in the past 4 years and it was my fault. |
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| ▲ | BorisMelnik 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've been running my instances for over 5 years, I update the Dockers every few months and that's it. I have about five users in different households that rely on it it has never missed a beat. |
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| ▲ | dawnerd 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’ve had mine going for what feels like ten years now no issues. Even longer if you could some of the earlier managers out there. The arrs are some of the most solid apps I’ve run. Especially once I switched them to use Postgres. |
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| ▲ | ChadNauseam 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Another good option is nixflix: https://github.com/kiriwalawren/nixflix (a nixos equivalent) |
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| ▲ | tclancy 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Oh cool! I have been running it happily for a bit over a year but found the interplay to be annoying. Currently working on https://github.com/tclancy/lintarr to try to "prove" rules across the stack don't conflict with each other. |
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| ▲ | kappar 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It appears the large majority agrees that the *arr stack is fantastic and fundamental context to any vibe coded solution for similar services. I can also confirm resource contention or maintainability is not the issue for me with these. Selecting good releases, for anime, classic cartoons, various dubbs, subtitles, and quality, size, etc can be troublesome. But it is like anything else, you iterate on it. |
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| ▲ | dewey 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There’s also https://autobrr.com/ - not exactly the same but many overlapping features, lightweight, written in Go and works well with que and qbitorrent. |
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| ▲ | Gareth321 8 hours ago | parent [-] | | I found this trickier to set up and use. I tried it for sports but ended up switching to Sportarr. |
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| ▲ | chillfox 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| For comparison, audiobookshelf idles at 89MB, emby at 178MB and navidrome at 29MB for me. I think everyone has different definitions of what they consider heavy. I tend to think anything using over 30MB when idle is a bit much and anything over 300MB is something that really needs to earn it's spot. |
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| ▲ | weedfroglozenge 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The bigger reason is Sonarr and Radarr opens you up to a plethora of attack vectors and realistically at this point you're probably already compromised. |
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| ▲ | caymanjim 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't see how. I run them with no public ingress, no plugins or mods. I don't torrent. I'm not sure there's really any attack vector worth worrying about. Certainly no more than many of the other services I host. | | | |
| ▲ | serf 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | what the hell are you smoking? even the silly article earlier had the caveat "Yeah it downloads EXEs but its up to you or your family to run them" and that's totally ignoring the fact that it's only a supremely naive user that hasn't yet refined their filters to exclude dangerous extensions (or, if they're too lazy to do that, rely on one of the many many pre-assembled filter/grabber settings across the net which already do so.) what fear-mongering and FUD-spread. You may also want to warn the public about the dangers of having curl, wget, python or gcc installed. They expose a PLETHORA of attack vectors! you're probably already compromised, realistically!" ... and they're actually more dangerous than a free-floating EXE. |
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| ▲ | epcoa 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Sonarr, Lidarr, Radarr There’s no value to this post honestly. |
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| ▲ | nonethewiser 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe the resources in question arent RAM. |
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| ▲ | gib444 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| There must be large amounts of similar code between Radarr, Lidarr, Sonarr etc. Whenever I use them I wonder if they could be one unified app with plugins...? |
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| ▲ | willio58 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Also the barrier to entry for these things has dropped immensely with ai |