| ▲ | impostor313131 19 hours ago |
| I am 36 and I have been thinking about suicide a tiny bit lately. But I will share my perspective with you, hopefully to draw a picture how different circumstances can be. I live in Ukraine and my optionality in life collapsed the day the war started. I had a good life, good income and traveled a lot. I used to dream of a career in big tech and life in different countries just to give it a taste. Now I am not able to leave the country because I am a male of conscription age. My city is being attacked by drones daily, and ballistic rockets a few times a month. Witnessing your country getting wrecked with rockets and drones is hell of an experience. Businesses, electricity plants, infrastructure, gas stations becoming rubble. There is also little hope in a resolution of this soon. I have to work on a job which provides a reservation from military service if I don’t want to fight, otherwise I will be picked up on the street to join the military. I have it so much better than a lot of my countrymen, but holy shit does this suck and it is not getting better anytime soon. The hopelessness gets you. Software engineering is one of my last remaining pillars of life remaining more or less intact. At least I get to write some code and make computers do things. Life is a strange thing. |
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| ▲ | bpavuk 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| 18. same ass of a country (to outsiders, have a look at all the countless debacles concerning corruption to understand why "ass"), except that I have 7 mostly worry-free years left to live and the market for juniors (and thus, me) is closed. if I get drafted, I'm waiting out for an opportunity to shoot my head. honestly, having a decently paying blue-collar job made me think whether tech is worth it at all, given that I'll lose all the extra benefits (from canteen to proper bomb shelter to gym to commute) and cut my already tight paycheck by 20-25%. for what? for "tech"? where I have to be able to wake up at 3AM when the client's LLM took down their prod, commute to a vulnerable office in Kyiv (and pay for expensive AND equally vulnerable housing there), live under a threat of getting fired because I was "not AI enough" or whatever management wants, or because I don't have gigabit Wi-Fi in the shelter? fuck it, I'll rather be a night-shift loader and idk, learn embedded at home. the world devolving into proompting has ruined tech for me. prolly I'll get a Cat. C driver's license and spend little what I have remaining of life on the road. if I get lucky, I may eventually reach CE and Euro 95 certs, and that in turn gives me some sort of safety against mobilization. if the war ends before I become 25, I'll likely end up a stereotypical himbo truck driver. I'm tired of having to perform the smartness. |
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| ▲ | rafterydj 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You have my sympathy. I can't offer you any advice, but I was just thinking earlier about how awful I feel for younger people working in this industry, and that didn't even include being Ukrainian. | |
| ▲ | jackschultz 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Thank you, and one in the above comment, for sharing this. I feel comments like these need to be seen more frequently by people not in your situation. Hard claim I can even imagine what it feels like. | |
| ▲ | zrn900 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > if I get drafted, I'm waiting out for an opportunity to shoot my head Huh? | | |
| ▲ | bpavuk 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > surrender to the other side (Russia I believe?) and spend 1-2 years [...] citizenship proceedings [...] I almost read it as an insult, but I'll assume that you either forgot or didn't know one peculiar fact: Russian army almost never keeps their POWs alive, and even if it does, it absolutely never lets them out of the army into Russia - only back into Ukraine, through the battlefield. this would be a valid option if I was a Russian who does not want to fight Ukraine, sure. Ukraine is ± alright with Russian POWs, partly because we have Europe watching over our shoulders. the reasoning behind your idea is sound, assuming that both sides wage an honest and Geneva-accurate war, except that Russia prefers to utilize the Genevan convention as a piece of toilet paper. so, your idea effectively becomes suicidal, but you also get a great deal of suffering. why not cut the suffering while I can? | | |
| ▲ | zrn900 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Russian army almost never keeps their POWs alive That happens in reality in which there are WMDs in Iraq. |
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| ▲ | pllbnk 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I hope more than anything Ukrainians will stay strong and persevere. Perhaps not even for themselves or their country, but just to witness the enemy collapse when it all ends. The mere fact that you are Ukrainian and live in Ukraine invokes a certain level of respect. |
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| ▲ | Georgelemental 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > Perhaps not even for themselves or their country, but just to witness the enemy collapse when it all ends. I hope more than anything that Ukraine (and Russia, and Israel, and Palestine, and all the war-torn regions of the world) can one day be free of this ghoulish mindset, that world leaders will choose life instead of worshipping death | | |
| ▲ | darkwi11ow 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You're probably was lucky to be born in war-free region, so it is easy to
label things as ghoulish from a position of morally concerned outsider. You was never forced
to leave your homeland and become a refugee, you was not separated from your loved ones
by the border of warring countries, your friends and loved ones were not killed or imprisoned
by invading nazi army.
And it's a good thing for yourself, but you are not in a suitable position to judge Ukrainians or Syrians
or other peoples who have been through it. | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes, I am lucky enough to not have experienced mass violence, and also I don't wish it on anyone else. I empathize (though I do not agree) with people who have experienced it, have had their souls worn down by the evil done to them, and who adopt these sorts of attitudes because of that. But there are also people who have had lives just as easy as mine, and yet, from their place of safety and comfort, they egg on war, and cheer when others get killed. I have nothing but contempt for this last group |
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| ▲ | culi 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This consistent oversimplification and allergy to reading actual history and being an informed citizen is what ensures these types of wars will continue | |
| ▲ | jojobas 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Yeah wishing to see people who tried to torture and kill you dead is ghoulish. | | |
| ▲ | AIorNot 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It’s not ghoulish but it also perpuates a never ending cycle unfortunately- we as in each culture, man, woman are all wronged in so many ways and most have legitimate grievances and are skilled in restarting and kindling those grievances with the next batch of children..ironically religion and nationalism kindles that even further while also providing a base identity to create fellowship between its adherents But is the only way out further death and destruction? Blessed be the peacemakers, as they say | | |
| ▲ | jojobas 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | While the attack on you is ongoing, yes, fighting back is the only way out. Giving up and dying is not peacemaking. | | |
| ▲ | thayne 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Fighting back to protect yourself is one thing, but exacting revenge leads to a cycle of violence. Especially when it is on an entire nationality or ethnicity. | | |
| ▲ | dmkolobov 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Honestly, who are you talking to and what are you reading? Most Ukrainians I've met, my parents, their friends, refugees we've met: just want the Russians to go home. | | |
| ▲ | thayne 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | From a few levels up in this thread: > Perhaps not even for themselves or their country, but just to witness the enemy collapse when it all ends To me this sounds like a desire for retribution, not just an end to hostilities. And that is what I am replying to. I have no reason to believe that is an attitude commonly held by Ukrainians. And it seems like that post wasn't even written by a Ukranian. |
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| ▲ | bpavuk 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | on a serious note, it really is. death/execution as a punishment makes no sense. there are fates worse than death for those whose offenses we'd love to spill the blood for. Alcatraz is one such place where those fates are served. and for crimes that are not enough to execute for, bog-standard prisons are enough. they are imperfect, but those willing to change prove themselves there, and a good one should give enough opportunities for a criminal to re-educate, reconsider some of their life choices, and rehabilitate. punishment by death is never the right fit. | | |
| ▲ | jojobas 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | We're not talking a finished crime where "peaceful" punishment is an option. It is an ongoing war, missiles destroy cities and lives. When someone is doing that to you, killing them is usually the only way to stop it. Surrendering is not an option, see Bucha. | | |
| ▲ | bpavuk 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | agree. yet, most of the time, most people have enforcement infra, and having an intent to kill, and not resisting it, is ghoulish. that way, one is perpetuating the very cycle that Europe attempted to stop within itself through coal and steel |
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| ▲ | i_love_retros 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | How can you group Ukraine and Palestine in with Russia and Israel? Russia and Israel are the countries causing the regions to be war torn. They are mass murdering invaders, no better than Nazi Germany. | | |
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| ▲ | nujabe 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | UpsideDownRide 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No. It was Russias inability to accept sovereignty of Ukraine. How is that hard to comprehend? | | |
| ▲ | nujabe 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | We saw what the US did in Venezuela for simply cozying up to China, so I’m not sure what you expected Russia to do when it’s smaller neighbour is inviting its biggest adversaries to settle at its border. | | |
| ▲ | Defletter 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Yes, we are in agreement that empires bully their smaller neighbours. This is bad, right? You agree that this is bad... right? | | | |
| ▲ | irlib 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Finland is a small country, and it joined NATO without Russia so much as flinching. Ukraine is nothing like small. It's bigger than France, for instance, with almost 50M people. Attacking it was just plain madness. | | |
| ▲ | bluegatty 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It was not madness. If Zelensky fled, Ukraine would have collapsed. It was not an 'attack' so much as it was 'military rolling into Kyiv, nobody stopping them' - like the tanks rolled into Hungary. The anomaly was that they decided to fight back. And Russia's Army was not what it was, and they didn't go in with enough for a proper fight, yada yada. | |
| ▲ | nujabe 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You know very well that Finland and Ukraine are not the same. Ukrainian territory has been controlled by Moscow for centuries and their ties go much further. > Attacking it was just plain madness. I get why Putin did it. You don’t want Ukraine to become a porcupine like Taiwan or some de facto NATO state.
You have to also remember that this was also a de-Nazification operation, there a lot of Nazis in Ukrainian uniform [1]. > Ukraine is nothing like small. I said smaller. [1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols... |
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| ▲ | axus 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | China is a good example for the US and Russia for what to do. | | |
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| ▲ | jongjong 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Governments are a bad idea. That's the root problem. People are stupid for thinking they need a government. You don't need laws. Laws are designed to oppress. Think in your own life how many times the law harmed you vs helped you... Europe, Russia, Ukraine, USA. These concepts do not exist; they are fictions... But the fiction can kill you if you believe it; just like a schizophrenic having hallucinations; those can kill. If the fiction doesn't benefit you; there really is no incentive for you to believe it, and you shouldn't... You can be sure it's benefiting someone else. Do you want to die for the people who created this nightmare reality? | | |
| ▲ | PsylentKnight 14 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Fictions... that allow you to have clean running water, own personal property and get an education? If you want to see what life looks like without a government, just look at Haiti. Gangs fill the power vacuum when the government loses its monopoly on violence | | | |
| ▲ | arcanemachiner 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You're just describing an alternative fiction with a lot less public buy-in, which from the outside looks about as plausible as the Sovereign Citizen movement that became infamous a few years back. | |
| ▲ | hsuduebc2 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Organized groups which are created historically as opposition to another organized groups are bad idea or these are made up too? | | |
| ▲ | jongjong 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yes it's a bad idea. Everyone should just think individually; "is this fiction working for me personally?" If the answer is no, then you shouldn't support it. If the people from some other organized group which "threatens you" are so brainwashed that they think they benefit from their humongous group (when in fact, they're just treated as a meaningless, tiny number), then you may have to bare the pain of their idiocy for a few generations or so until their masters exploit them out of existence. It's an unfortunate situation. The sheep get slaughtered, but unlike sheep, you can't force the sheeple to breed; and they don't; deep down they know how miserable their existence is. In reality, the group has little power over you as an individual. It derives most of its power from your own compliance. The compliance of others is a lesser factor in your oppression. You don't need to believe in alternative fictions unless you created it. You just need to wait it out and pretend hard! Create your own fiction, exploit every loophole! Let the idiots realize their idiocy on their own and rebel on their own later once they realize they were fooled. You have to be a radical realist, wait it out and bare all the costs in the meantime. It's better to bare the pain of system dysfunction for decades than to go along with it and find yourself at the front of the firing line later, fighting against what you helped to create. | | |
| ▲ | TheOtherHobbes 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | >In reality, the group has little power over you as an individual. I'm sure everyone in Ukraine is delighted that the nightly air raids are a mere narrative device, and they can choose to opt out of them by pretending hard. |
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| ▲ | ninkendo 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Let me just try to understand your position here: Ukrainians are warmongers? What does that make the Russians? | | |
| ▲ | hsuduebc2 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ordinary angle from people which needs to sound smart or have a need to relativize everything so they end up blaming the victim. "Everybody is bad, nobody is good so then just stop bothering us with defending yourself. It would not hurt if you wouldn't even start in the first place" |
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| ▲ | demek2016 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It is my one sincere wish in life that the suffering of Ukrainians is not for naught and that the people of Europe support you until victory. |
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| ▲ | nickff 18 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But Europe isn’t really supporting Ukraine, they’re just providing enough supplies to keep them in the fight. No state seems willing to provide enough assistance to allow for Ukrainian victory, because of the costs and risks associated with that aid. Even countries at little risk of reprisal from Russia are reluctant to do much at all. As such, all of us doing nothing more than “voicing support” on the internet and some far-away rally, should offer our empathy, and not presume to tell them how much we’re “helping”. | | |
| ▲ | palata 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > But Europe isn’t really supporting Ukraine, they’re just providing enough supplies to keep them in the fight What is your definition of "supporting", if "providing support" doesn't count? | |
| ▲ | throwaway2037 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ukraine recieves 80B EUR in aid each year from various international partners. There is plenty of support. You can learn more from a German, independent, non-profit research institute (Kiel) here: https://www.kielinstitut.de/research/topics/war-against-ukra... | |
| ▲ | onemoresoop 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Europe is divided by propaganda and the situation is quite volatile at the moment. Some European countries do support Ukraine more than others.. | |
| ▲ | estearum 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A lot of European countries (especially those closest to Russia) are doing a fuckton relative to their economies. The US is the despicable laggard, even when accounting for our distance from the action. (And especially when accounting for the fact we promised them our protection of their sovereignty) | | |
| ▲ | nradov 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | None of the European countries are doing much relative to their economies. Russia's GDP is about the same as Italy's. The rest of the EU and NATO countries together have an economy that is enormously larger than Russia's. So why do they allow Russia to push them around? | | |
| ▲ | estearum 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | Here are the aid allocations to Ukraine as a share of GDP of the top contributors (all approximate from 2022 through to 2026): Denmark: 3% Estonia: 3% Lithuania: 2.5% Norway: 2.5% Latvia: 2% Sweden: 2% Finland: 1.5% ... UK [†]: 0.75% ... United States [†]: 0.5% [†]: These countries signed an agreement that they would protect Ukraine's sovereignty. For context, the US's entire national defense budget is about 3% of our GDP. Or alternatively, Medicare is 3% of our GDP. This statement is false: "None of the European countries are doing much relative to their economies." | | |
| ▲ | nradov 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ya, that's basically nothing. None of those European countries have asked their citizens to sacrifice. The welfare state continues uninterrupted. They were still buying Russian fossil fuels instead of telling people to put on a sweater. As a US citizen I think that our country should also do more to assist Ukraine. But fundamentally this is a European problem. They need to find a solution instead of expecting the US to bail them out again. | | |
| ▲ | estearum 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | If 3% of GDP is basically nothing (US defense budget or Medicare), then why isn’t the expectation that the US puts in “basically nothing” (3%) as a token gesture towards its promise to guarantee their sovereignty? | | |
| ▲ | nradov 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Again, I think the US should do more but it's really not our problem. We never guaranteed Ukraine's sovereignty. If you're referring to the Budapest Memorandum, it contains no such promise. | | |
| ▲ | estearum an hour ago | parent [-] | | The other states under the US nuclear umbrella find no comfort in the legalesing the difference between "a guarantee" and "an assurance." If we want nuclear proliferation, breaking our promises is the way to do it. The idea that a marauding steppe warlord succeeding in Ukraine and taking control of by far the most advanced and experienced near-peer military on the planet, with aspirations to advance further into Europe, is "not our problem" is laughable. | | |
| ▲ | nradov an hour ago | parent [-] | | Ukraine was never under the US nuclear umbrella. Where are you getting these crazy ideas? | | |
| ▲ | estearum an hour ago | parent [-] | | "Nuclear umbrella" is not a well-defined term. It is the set of promises the US made to non-nuclear states. It made a set of guarantees to some set of nations (e.g. NATO++), and a set of assurances to other states, like Ukraine. Our reneging on our assurances indicates weakness in our guarantees, which risks a proliferation spiral. For example, NATO's Article 5 can be legalesed the same exact way you're trying to legalese the Budapest Memorandum. Budapest Memorandum: > The Russian Federation, the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland, and The United States of America reaffirm their commitment to seek immediate United Nations Security Council action to provide assistance to Ukraine, as a non-nuclear-weapon state party to the Treaty on the Non-Proliferation of Nuclear Weapons, if Ukraine should become a victim of an act of aggression or an object of a threat of aggression in which nuclear weapons are used. NATO Article 5: > The Parties agree that an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all and consequently they agree that, if such an armed attack occurs, each of them, in exercise of the right of individual or collective self-defence recognised by Article 51 of the Charter of the United Nations, will assist the Party or Parties so attacked by taking forthwith, individually and in concert with the other Parties, such action as it deems necessary, including the use of armed force, to restore and maintain the security of the North Atlantic area. Both agreements promise assistance. Do you think the US's view that your position of "not our problem" qualifies as assistance under the Budapest memorandum, but that somehow "not our problem" would not qualify as assistance under Article 5? I'm curious for your opinion, though it doesn't matter much. The reality is that all of this is destroying the umbrella and its civilization-protecting purpose: https://www.cnbc.com/2026/08/19/nuclear-proliferation-defens... | | |
| ▲ | nradov 39 minutes ago | parent [-] | | What a weird non sequitur. Unlike the North Atlantic Treaty which established NATO, the Budapest Memorandum of 1994 was explicitly not a mutual defense treaty (or even a treaty at all). It merely required the USA to bring violations to the UN Security Council, which we did in 2022. Promises made, promises kept. | | |
| ▲ | estearum 7 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Again, in a legalistic sense, sure. But again, in a legalistic sense, even NATO Article 5 also doesn't obligate the US to do anything. No document (Budapest memoranda or NATO treaty) can require the US to do anything, so all that matters is whether the US is signaling itself as a country that defends its partners. If you believe that Article 5 obligates the US to do anything more than what we've done so far in Ukraine, please explain why. If you don't believe that Article 5 does that, then I'm not sure why you seem dismissive of the idea that we're creating conditions for a nuclear proliferation spiral. |
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| ▲ | UpsideDownRide 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Ukraine is provided with tech, weapons intelligence, and all kinds of equipment. You are spewing nonsense. | |
| ▲ | samplatt 11 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | >No state seems willing to provide enough assistance to allow for Ukrainian victory Because Putin will never back down, by definition a Ukrainian "victory" would require the fall of Russia. Which would likely require a world war. |
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| ▲ | Georgelemental 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | UpsideDownRide 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You seem to think that if Ukraine gives up all will be good. That Russia will play nice, try not to subjugate Ukraine fully Belarus style. As long as Ukraine wants to be free they don't have much choice since Russia is what it is. | |
| ▲ | hkpack 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How would you end the suffering? That is such a naive take, when there is no such option on the table. If Ukraine lose - russians will not only he able to bomb civilians from the distance, but will literally be able to go to their homes. The suffering will multiply but you will most likely not hear about it, so you will be in peace with yourself. | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | Via a negotiated settlement, which would very likely include Ukraine giving up some amount of territory to Russia and making some guarantees about neutrality, and the West lifting sanctions, hopefully in exchange for Russia paying for Ukraine's reconstruction. Agree that it will be very hard to do though. Best time to try was years ago, but unfortunately Boris Johnson vetoed that, and now the Russians don't want to negotiate. | | |
| ▲ | nradov 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's such a naive comment. Any negotiated "settlement" that Russia would accept would leave Ukraine effectively defenseless and no longer a sovereign state. It would be only a temporary truce, which Russia would use to rebuild their military and then renew the invasion in a few years on some other artificial pretext. The only possible way to bring the conflict to a lasting peace is to kill enough Russians (including civilians) that they simply no longer have the capability to conduct war. That is the reality. | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | You base this assessment on what evidence? If Russia truly wanted to conquer all of Ukraine, they would have made their move in 2014, when the Ukrainian army was far weaker and the front far less fortified. Instead, they stopped at Crimea, and provided only limited support to the breakaway provinces in the Donbas. (To this day, many hardline Russian nationalists resent Putin for this! They think he was "too soft") Putin invaded in 2022 because he believed his hand had been forced. It wasn't, he was (and is) delusional and wrong, but there is every reason to think that he really believed it. | | |
| ▲ | __d 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You really should read Putin's 2021 essay on why Ukraine should be Russian https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/On_the_Historical_Unity_of_Ru... | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have read that essay. It does not contradict anything I wrote above | | |
| ▲ | __d 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | You claimed that Russia invaded because its leader felt his hand was forced. You have offered no explanation of how it was "forced" to invade a sovereign neighbor. I contend that it chose to invade because its leader wants to integrate Ukraine into the Russian Federation, and offered this as evidence of that desire. I think that contradicts your statement as to the true rationale for the invasion. | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental an hour ago | parent [-] | | That essay demonstrates that Putin believes that Ukraine is closely linked to Russian civilization. That doesn't mean he believes Ukraine should be part of the Russian Federation, just that it should have close ties to it. The essay very explicitly advocates for the latter, and blames the West/NATO/"Nazis" for driving a wedge between the two countries. (Of course, Putin's invasion has driven that wedge much further, and destroyed the relationship much more thoroughly, than the "Nazis" ever could. That's why I called him delusional) |
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| ▲ | janfoeh 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is also every reason to believe Putin is doing this to restore Russia to former size, influence and glory. > Putin invaded in 2022 because he believed his hand had been forced. It wasn't, he was (and is) delusional and wrong, but there is every reason to think that he really believed it. Then please name those reasons. As for the "negotiated settlement" you've brought forward - one could be forgiven to think that such a settlement would not be worth the paper it is written on: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budapest_Memorandum . | |
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| ▲ | UpsideDownRide 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is no such thing as neutrality. If Ukraine cannot align with west it will mean they will be forced to be under Russia. | |
| ▲ | el_jay 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Нet, товарищ. We do not reward wars of conquest by granting territorial gains to aggressors in Anno Domini 2026. | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | > We do not reward wars of conquest by granting territorial gains to aggressors > Switzerland and Hobart, TAS based Easy for you to say! You aren't the one dying. | | |
| ▲ | defrost 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Unlikely Truganini is in agreement here, she watched Tasmanian territory seized by aggressors and those gains writ into law. | |
| ▲ | el_jay 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Russia could end the war today by pulling out of the occupied territories and paying restitution. They aren’t doing that, and it seems the Ukrainians themselves still believe it is worth risking life and limb to keep them out. I don’t know where you’re from but I’d bet money it’s not your land the Russians would be occupying, товарищ. Lots of not so friendly countries are watching what goes on in Ukraine very carefully, and making decisions about their future military plans… | | |
| ▲ | Georgelemental 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | > and it seems the Ukrainians themselves still believe it is worth risking life and limb to keep them out. Increasingly many do not feel that way! |
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| ▲ | ninkendo 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Ukraine giving up some amount of territory to Russia and making some guarantees about neutrality So you’re saying the country that was invaded without any provocation, gives up territory for the pinky promise that Russia won’t do it again? You know this is already the second time in 10 years Putin has invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory, right? You do remember Crimea? Or we can go further back in history, look at the policy of appeasement with hitler in 1939. It doesn’t end well. You don’t negotiate with invaders. They’re not going to stop because you asked nicely. They’re going to keep taking until it’s all theirs. | |
| ▲ | estearum 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Someone hasn't listened to or read anything from Putin in the last 10 years and it shows. What an astoundingly ignorant comment. | |
| ▲ | dwoldrich 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Diplomacy was a deliberately lost art and the kickbacks were sweet. My eyebrows go up when anyone tries rehabilitating Boris' reputation re: Ukraine. He'll spend a long time in solitary confinement in the next life if there is any cosmic justice. | | |
| ▲ | UpsideDownRide 16 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have you considered that Boris could understand the situation better than you? People thinking that Russia can honor deals just baffle me. | | |
| ▲ | dwoldrich 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Of course I considered he had information I don't have, I also don't trust him nor his judgement nor his friends nor his handlers and your attempt to rehabilitate him is, as I said earlier, quite an eyebrow raiser. Does anyone remember Brexit and how he was hammering on that? I swear people are memory-holing this guy. Partygate hints at a monster, a professional liar. Were you personally for diplomacy at any point in this process? Do you know why diplomacy broke down? (And do you know/can you recall why before you go research it now?) Have you personally gotten what you feel is a solid reason for the breakdown in talks? |
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| ▲ | taneq 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Send in the Bees With Teeth. |
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| ▲ | ninkendo 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah and also the UK should have just let Nazi Germany take over. And France should not have resisted as much, that caused too much suffering. And basically anyone who opposed the holocaust. Sure, six million Jews died, but by defeating the people who did it, even more people died. Better to just let them do it. |
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| ▲ | neya 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm extremely sorry to hear about your life and honestly I don't want to be someone who is provides faux comfort saying everything will be alright. However, I am trying to imagine myself in your shoes and if it ever came to a point where I thought it my life is better off taken out, I would be willing to explore my absolute last options, no matter how miniscule the probability may be. Maybe some variant of high-risk emmigration? Maybe there's a waterway or a boat route or underground passage or forest or something.If I was anyway planning to take my life away without giving these extremely low probability options a chance, might as well go down with a fight. Probably this is naive, but that's only because I have personally never been in such a situation ever to even be able to provide a decent enough advice. I am completely baffled and very sorry you are going through this. You're not the first one to share this experience and probably won't be the last and at times like this it irritates me the feminist organizations all over the world have been dead silent on this matter. Equality only when it benefits them, I guess. I wish you good luck and hopefully get to meet you in person to learn of your amazing story of survival. Good luck! |
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| ▲ | throwaway2037 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Did you consider voluteering with the Ukraine Army to be a drone pilot? There are many jobs that are far from the zero line, so very little risk of death/injury. Also, from everything that I read, most people cherish the friendships they build during time of war. There are few things that bring together men fighting a common enemy. |
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| ▲ | onlypassingthru 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Necessity is the mother of invention and I can only imagine the volume of necessity that your environment demands. If fighting is not an option, can you use your skills to make some lemonade out of a giant bowl of lemons? Hang in there. This, too, shall pass. |
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| ▲ | jeffybefffy519 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you suggest some things foreigners could do to help the situation in Ukraine? |
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| ▲ | onemoresoop 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can actually make donations for various causes including sending batches of drones for the Ukrainian on the frontline. Look up Jake Broe for example, he does organize such campaigns. | | |
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| ▲ | JKCalhoun 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Life is strange. And circumstance even stranger. I guess a die is rolled somewhere in the universe and we are born—who knew where, who knew when. And there are many who are even less fortunate than ourselves. |
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| ▲ | BeetleB 17 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Whatever I'm about to say may sound hollow, given that I've not been in your shoes. At my previous (well known tech) company, we had a number of older Romanians who grew up in the Communist era. I became close with one of them. And the stories he told me were just harrowing. They were not at war, but the government simply couldn't provide for the people (other than giving them a good education). The struggle for basic necessities in the 80's became real. He had a wife and a newborn, and the wife was sick, and they couldn't afford any furniture. There was real concern the baby would die because the mother couldn't get even basic rest (no mattress, no bed, sleeping on concrete floor, etc). The stuff he had to do to ensure she got a bed was crazy. And then later there were food shortages, etc. Dodging bullets, etc. But they all somehow persevered and focused on surviving. And then got out of the country as soon as the borders opened up. Eventually, because of their skills, they got great jobs. Very senior and well respected in the company. But of course, they know people who did lose hope and ultimately committed suicide. Living in the US, I've encountered lots of former refugees from war zones. People like yourself with skills did well here. For sure they struggled, but eventually they all "made it". If you have skills, I hope you can last long enough to get there too. |
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| ▲ | bluegatty 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Go and fight back against the people invading your country. I have non-Ukrainian family members who flew thousands of km over to fight for you right now; you should be 'ahead of them in line' for the cause. When the war is over you can build things with software; it won't be as fulfilling. |
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| ▲ | 2ssaa 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Jeezus christ. Lost for words fella, lost for words. |
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| ▲ | CamperBob2 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can you avoid conscription by volunteering your SW engineering talents for the defense sector? That was an option in many 20th-century wars but I don't know if it's relevant these days. As an American, I'd like to say I'm as horrified by our faithless leadership as you are frightened by the circumstances you're facing, but that just sounds pointlessly shallow. All of Western civilization has a stake in keeping Putin at bay, but only your country is being forced to confront that fact right now. We should feel grateful to Ukraine, and in fact many of us do. Suffice it to say we aren't all aligned with Musk and Trump, and many of us fervently wish we could do more to help in a meaningful capacity. Trouble is, about a third of our eligible voters have decided to put a single party decisively in charge of all of our branches of government, and the way our system is structured, that leaves the rest of us more or less powerless. That will hopefully change soon, but we'll see. Try to stay strong, and we will try as well. |
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| ▲ | hkpack 17 hours ago | parent [-] | | You can, but as usual the opportunities are limited as military don’t need that much full stack engineers. On the other hand senior embedded/mechanical/electronics/AI engineers are of the very high demand. | | |
| ▲ | palata 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | What is a senior AI engineer? Genuinely interested. | | |
| ▲ | __d 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | AI has been a thing for decades | | |
| ▲ | palata 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | And still I had never heard of "AI engineer". I learned AI as part of CS, back when it wasn't quite "intelligence" and we didn't call prompting "engineering". |
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| ▲ | taneq 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Someone with experience in convnets, SLAM, motion planning, and a bunch of graph algorithms? |
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| ▲ | DoctorOetker 16 hours ago | parent [-] | | Easy to say when drones & ballistic missiles aren't dropping left and right whereabouts you live... |
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| ▲ | schleck8 17 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | And what about Russia occupying a fifth of Georgia? Is Georgia a Jewish controlled country too? I feel like the easier explanation is Russia being the largest country on the planet with a ton of asian minorities because they've done this scorched earth conquest bullshit for centuries | | | |
| ▲ | jensgk 17 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You are spreading antisemitic conspiracy theories. | | |
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| ▲ | beaned 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| If you're going to kill yourself anyway, why not just acquiesce? (To Russia.) This question may be stupid depending on the reader but I'm asking sincerely. |
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| ▲ | mrheosuper 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not OP, but i've seen footage from that war, and sometimes you can't decide how to go out. I've seen someone grasping for air like 30 minutes, while their face is half blown out. A death is a mercy on them. |
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