It’s not ghoulish but it also perpuates a never ending cycle unfortunately- we as in each culture, man, woman are all wronged in so many ways and most have legitimate grievances and are skilled in restarting and kindling those grievances with the next batch of children..ironically religion and nationalism kindles that even further while also providing a base identity to create fellowship between its adherents

But is the only way out further death and destruction?

Blessed be the peacemakers, as they say

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jojobas 16 hours ago | parent [-]

While the attack on you is ongoing, yes, fighting back is the only way out. Giving up and dying is not peacemaking.

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thayne 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Fighting back to protect yourself is one thing, but exacting revenge leads to a cycle of violence. Especially when it is on an entire nationality or ethnicity.

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dmkolobov 13 hours ago | parent [-]

Honestly, who are you talking to and what are you reading? Most Ukrainians I've met, my parents, their friends, refugees we've met: just want the Russians to go home.

	▲	thayne 12 hours ago \| parent [-]
		From a few levels up in this thread: > Perhaps not even for themselves or their country, but just to witness the enemy collapse when it all ends To me this sounds like a desire for retribution, not just an end to hostilities. And that is what I am replying to. I have no reason to believe that is an attitude commonly held by Ukrainians. And it seems like that post wasn't even written by a Ukranian.