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▲ nujabe 16 hours ago

We saw what the US did in Venezuela for simply cozying up to China, so I’m not sure what you expected Russia to do when it’s smaller neighbour is inviting its biggest adversaries to settle at its border.

▲Defletter 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, we are in agreement that empires bully their smaller neighbours. This is bad, right? You agree that this is bad... right?

▲nujabe 14 hours ago | parent [-]

Agreed.

▲irlib 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Finland is a small country, and it joined NATO without Russia so much as flinching. Ukraine is nothing like small. It's bigger than France, for instance, with almost 50M people. Attacking it was just plain madness.

▲bluegatty 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It was not madness. If Zelensky fled, Ukraine would have collapsed. It was not an 'attack' so much as it was 'military rolling into Kyiv, nobody stopping them' - like the tanks rolled into Hungary.

The anomaly was that they decided to fight back. And Russia's Army was not what it was, and they didn't go in with enough for a proper fight, yada yada.

▲nujabe 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You know very well that Finland and Ukraine are not the same. Ukrainian territory has been controlled by Moscow for centuries and their ties go much further.

> Attacking it was just plain madness.

I get why Putin did it. You don’t want Ukraine to become a porcupine like Taiwan or some de facto NATO state. You have to also remember that this was also a de-Nazification operation, there a lot of Nazis in Ukrainian uniform [1].

> Ukraine is nothing like small.

I said smaller.

[1] https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/05/world/europe/nazi-symbols...

▲axus 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

China is a good example for the US and Russia for what to do.

▲nujabe 13 hours ago | parent [-]

An excellent one for sure. Can’t beat “do nothing and win”.