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ashleyn 3 hours ago

Only slightly unrelated, but I've been thinking a lot lately about prion disease and whether or not you can still trust the meat you eat. Easily a food safety concern that is ten times worse than getting a little diarrhea from your salad, and the same institutional rot can contribute to it. And it would take 5-10 years to really see the damage done from it.

jm4 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

A guy gets a worm in his brain, somehow becomes secretary of health, loosens all the rules so the rest of us have a higher chance of getting a brain worm. This is comic book villain kind of stuff. Can we start a serious discussion about whether we might be living in a simulation with a troll teenager at the controls?

CalRobert 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Reminiscent of the toxoplasmosis life cycle.

tgv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Can we start a serious discussion about whether we might be living in a simulation with a troll teenager at the controls?

Why? To skirt the fact that this is reality and needs to be changed? There is no simulation. There is no super-natural teenager interested in making your life a tiny bit worse (I mean: a human teenager would just let N.Korea send nukes, and it's not as if you're living in Sudan either). Your question seems to be either trolling itself or delusional, or the feeblest attempt at humor. Neither is helpful.

Arodex 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can we start a serious discussion about whether you might start taking responsibility of who you elect instead of wasting your time fantasizing?

I mean, it is not as if RFK was the darling candidate of HN at one time?

epistasis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've been a long time foe of RFK Jr., spend way too much time here, and have never been under the impression that RFK Jr. was a darling here at all.

Arodex 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Filter for dates around his presidential run: "he's not really anti Vax", "he's the only candidate talking about health"... With Dorsey and other SV actors boosting him.

https://archive.is/kce6f

idiotsecant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

This was never a majority opinion here

pstuart 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Wait, so techbros angling for influence represent the HN population?

Sadly, there's enough MAGA here to share their downvotes but your "evidence" is pointing in a different direction.

Waterluvian 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Americans have what’s basically a cultural trait at this point of deflecting ownership of their government’s actions with “not my president so not my failure” abdication of responsibility.

I wish we could open trade talks with these people instead. But, alas, that’s not how it works.

w0de0 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Fine, it’s all my fault. Neither me nor my state voted that way, I’ve protested like hell, but nonetheless at your insistence I accept personal responsibility for the policy choices of the federal government.

What do you propose I do?

Or did you just want my permission to be personally angry at me? Not sure you needed it, but you’ve now got it.

close04 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Something you might have noticed, every time there’s something positive, to brag or take pride with, someone will rub it in everyone else’s face: “we got to the Moon first”, “we have all the freedoms and the best democracy”, we have the most powerful army or strongest economy”, “we have bigger homes and bigger incomes”. For the good stuff it’s always “we”, part of the greatest. Individual contributions are blurry, meaningless. The laurels belong to everyone.

When it comes to the bad stuff there’s a shift in language. There’s no “we” anywhere to be found. It’s vague but it’s definitely someone else in another state who’s responsible. A crazy politician. A corrupt interest localized elsewhere. Overall result is blurry, meaningless. The blame belongs to someone specific.

The usual first reaction is “but those were different people you were talking to” and you’re right. But what a coincidence that when someone assigns blame there’s always an answer like yours to deflect it, but when they were assigning “awards” nobody ever came up to deflect those. Either most Americans think they should only get the praise and every other voice is drowned, or maybe it’s a balanced split but you only speak now to tell is you feel slighted and victimized but chose to be quiet back then when you were honored as an American.

It’s this coincidence you should be upset with. When the right hand only brags about the good stuff and puts the golden crown on your head, and the left hand only shirks responsibility when it’s pointed out that there’s gunk all over the crown and the backside is wooden.

Klonoar an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don’t think you want to do anything here except rub Americans nose in failure.

Which is fine, but attempting to grandstand while doing it is just boring to read.

Or maybe you just need more practice at this kind of internet kickdown.

close04 an hour ago | parent [-]

This is why you should sleep on it before replying. What kind of reply is that? “It was so boring I had to read it all and reply with a personal attack”? Do what everybody else does, downvote in response for the burn and move on.

If you thought I was wrong you wouldn’t spend 3 paragraphs (yes, a sentence can be a paragraph, and in this case it is) talking about me, you’d show me it’s not like that, not like everyone else sees it.

Funny thing is that unlike you who only had some 2bit ad-hominem to offer, GP is probably not wrong. They really aren’t responsible for the current situation and maybe even did their part to fight it. But they were immediately triggered and had to object when they felt unfairly bundled with the “losers”. Did you ever see anyone objecting to being unfairly bundled with the “winners” (i.e. never really contributed to the win)?

Klonoar 14 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Nah, I'm content with my response.

close04 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

Oh, no, that much was obvious. I can’t get blood from stone. Or a valuable conversation :)

hack1312 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

3 paragraphs? Dude they wrote 3 sentences.

w0de0 30 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think your observation is valid, but - perhaps from very understandable frustration - overwrought, and unfairly characterized as a specifically American foible.

Success always has many fathers, failure is always an orphan, anywhere. At least I am recognizing failure, if only to disown it!

(And if I rightly feel shame now, even without personal responsibility, cannot I not be allowed some sober pride in equal measure in other circumstances?)

jibal an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a lot of handwaving and broad generalizations / hyperbole that does exactly what the GP complained about from the GGP, and failed to answer their question: "What do you propose I do?"

vasco 24 minutes ago | parent [-]

Move to Alaska to become the greatest salmon catcher that ever lived.

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jibal an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it's those who say "He's my President! (also yours)" who deny and deflect all responsibility.

monkpit 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes because everyone else on HN is one hivemind, other than you of course.

rozap 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Goomba fallacy

SpicyLemonZest 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You might benefit from looking up the Goomba Fallacy. As a former anti-anti-RFK guy, I absolutely have to take responsibility, I severely misunderstood the wellness movement and didn't realize that inflicting disease on people was their goal. But I don't know why you think the person you're responding to supported RFK.

pstuart an hour ago | parent [-]

He's definitely got the broken clock syndrome. And back in the day he was a strong defender of the environment.

I've got a family member and ex friend (both trained in science) and they drank the koolaid hard. A funny story about them -- both had stayed at my home (different times) and I had taken to heating the water for my coffee in the microwave.

Both of them were horrified by that and refused to use that water. Neither could give reason why, and artfully deflected when I pressed the matter. I think antivaxers caught a virus that melted their brains.

jacobolus an hour ago | parent [-]

I think the worldwide disruption of the pandemic melted people's brains, and the recent surge in the anti-vax movement is a symptom. Along the lines of: if all this bad stuff happened and my life was significantly harmed, it must be someone's fault; all those doctors and scientists kept advising everyone on what they thought was happening and what to do, so they're probably the ones who caused the problem.

noduerme 27 minutes ago | parent [-]

I say this as a committed fan of RNA vaccines and masking, who believed we could have contained covid with more serious lockdowns very early in the pandemic: In point of fact, it was someone's fault, and the someones whose fault it was - the ones doing gain of function research - were the same people who took control of lockdown policy in the US. That would be enough to melt a lot of people's brains, even if it weren't for the psychological effects of lockdowns, remote schooling, and the consequent arrested development of an entire generation. At a bare minimum, the concealment by the CCP of what they knew of covid was an act of war. The cover-up itself killed millions of people and caused untold economic damage to their adversaries, with the collusion of health officials in the US government who had offshored illegal research there.

lovich 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

>I mean, it is not as if RFK was the darling candidate of HN at one time?

Wasn't my darling candidate. Mostly because I can read research papers and understand that drinking raw milk and avoiding vaccines doesn't make me healthier.

voidfunc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If were living in a simulation then all of this is meaningless :)

apsurd 3 hours ago | parent [-]

as opposed to the meaning of absolute reality? oh boy you’ve got so much reading and movie watching ahead that you’ll enjoy very much.

Dr_Incelheimer 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Read https://www.docdroid.net/MfW3sAr/parasite-pill-version-20-pd... and be enlightened. I believe it was originally made by a 4chan user so obviously there are a lot of insane ramblings there but if the theory is true, the implications would be hilarious

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jdblair 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm still considered at-risk to BSE b/c I spent 10 months in the UK during the 1991-92 school year.

kevinlou 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There's really nothing we can do about prion diseases, can we? What does the FDA (or any other regulatory or research institution) even have in the way of prion detection?

SapporoChris 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Just because something can't be easily detected in a timely manner doesn't mean there's nothing to be done.

Banning offal consumption. Banning blood donations from people who could have been exposed. Detecting the disease in postmortem examinations.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_BSE_outbreak

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testfrequency an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Most foreigners I know are incredibly skeptical or opposed to the idea of consuming meat while in America, as it has a pretty bad global reputation for not being good quality and/or safe.

I’m sure fans of BBQ will argue this, but I’d say the average person who is travelling just for BBQ is not really a standard foreigner.

I’ve even had co-workers visit from Ireland and Germany who only trust McDonald’s while they visit, or a local pub.

_zoltan_ an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I don't know who are these foreigners you speak of. I'm looking forward to eating some of the best steaks in the US.

The beef in Switzerland is mediocre at best.

defrost 44 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I'm looking forward to eating some of the best steaks in the US.

Some of the ~150,000 metric tonnes of beef recently imported from Australia?

testfrequency an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

My hot take on the American steak allure is more about the “cowboy” big portion fantasy that’s fairly engrained into pop culture globally. Otherwise, I wouldn’t say American cattle are superior in really any other way, and are not the best cuts globally either.

Switzerland I cannot speak to, but having had meats from Australia, Britain, Ireland, Spain, Italy, and Japan - a lot of places around the world have great and superior quality meats.

Poultry isn’t even in the conversation here, American poultry is off putting by nearly any person you ask who didn’t grow up with it.

vasco 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Every single person I know here in europe that is a meat lover is always including either some Texas BBQ or some large tomahawk steaks in their visit and the size and quality of US meat is perceived highly. And it's not like people will go to the US to have a steak or BBQ but definitely nobody who isn't a vegan is "opposed to the idea of consuming meat while in america", that's ridiculous.