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Tesla is recalling its cheaper Cybertruck because the wheels might fall off(theverge.com)
142 points by droidjj 2 hours ago | 136 comments
Robdel12 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Cheap ass studs, not surprised. Don’t tow with a cybertruck either, you can literally total it by ripping the frame out with the hitch.

It’s the most poorly engineered “truck” there is. Can’t tow. Can’t haul (stupid bed design). It’s just a glorified pavement machine.

mingus88 33 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It is a vanity project helmed by a terminally online manchild who wanted cyberpunk blade runner vibes.

Go look back at the original concept art. The actual delivered vehicle dimensions are totally different, so he didn’t even succeed at that part. They couldn’t build what he wanted. It’s way more boxy and looks like shit on the road.

And lol at 173 total affected vehicles. What a failure.

washingupliquid a minute ago | parent [-]

> terminally online manchild who wanted cyberpunk

Whoa, buddy. Don't insult your audience....

washingupliquid 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Can’t tow. Can’t haul

No one is hauling anything in these anyway. The Cybertruck is a midlife crisis car for white-collar Indian dudes with money. I'm sorry, it's true.

Construction workers are not trading in their F150s and beat-to-death Silverados for this I assure you.

mrcwinn 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Wow, that would be wild to see. Where can I see a Cybertruck owner "literally ripping the frame out with the hitch?"

FuriouslyAdrift 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubUXNSWGth0

loandbehold 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Watch WhistlinDiesel cybertruck video.

Robdel12 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

And if you hate WD, here’s another with them bouncing the skid steer on the actual trucks hitch haha before the cybertruck fails 2k before its advertise rating https://youtube.com/shorts/9yLzs5SzaxQ?si=nXElRpuLY_l-DbB4

jm4 11 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Oh, man. I remember that one. He absolutely destroyed that truck. What’s notable about that video is that the other trucks handled the abuse dramatically better than the cybertruck. He was determined to break every single vehicle in ways they would never actually be used, but it was laughable how bad the cybertruck was. If I remember correctly, he made the wheels fall off and had to get it repaired in the middle of the “test”. I think the Ford was still running at the end.

stephencanon 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to?

Oh, very rigorous engineering standards. The wheels aren't supposed to fall off for a start.

janderson215 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Can’t be made out of cardboard either.

The Front Fell Off: https://youtu.be/3m5qxZm_JqM?si=DprOulmmDK-H76LX

ryanschaefer an hour ago | parent | next [-]

We’ve taken it *outside* the environment

ClikeX an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I saw the title of the post, and I knew somebody would have referenced it.

Leonard_of_Q an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Same standards as e.g.

2026

Audi Q8 e-tron:

"Popular electric car recalled due to brake pedal problem" [1]

A problem with a "screw connection" (unclear whether this is a mounting screw or it serves some other purpose) can cause the brake pedal to malfunction.

or, in 2024

Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7:

"Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2]

It says that the ABS pump could drop off which would cause brake fluid to leak out which in turn causes the brakes to cease functioning.

[1] https://carup.se/popular-elbil-aterkallas-for-fel-pa-bromspe... (Swedish)

[2] https://nyheter24.se/nyheter/motor/1296418-farliga-felet-i-p... (Swedish)

raverbashing an hour ago | parent [-]

> Audi Q4 e-tron, Volkswagen ID.3, ID.4, ID.5 and ID.7:

> "Dangerous error in popular electric cars: brakes can cease functioning" [2]

> It says that the ABS pump could drop off

Using a mechanical ABS in an electric car might be part of the problem

formerly_proven an hour ago | parent [-]

As opposed to thoughts and prayers-based ABS?

Tanoc 28 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Some cars are going with entirely electrically actuated brakes, either inboard on on-hub, compared to the E-Tron which uses traditional hydraulically actuated brakes. One uses an electric motor to wind something to tighten the spring clip by pulling it that then pushes the pads to the rotor and the other uses pressure to overcome the spring by pushing the spring to compress it and push the pads to the rotor. I'm guessing Audi didn't go with entirely electric brakes because they have a reputation for being harsh and difficult to modulate with the pedal, and Audi is supposed to be both a luxury and sport brand where pedal feel is important.

raverbashing 2 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

No, just any combination of electric regenerative braking combined with electrically controlled brakes.

It is an electric car after all

HarHarVeryFunny 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, the wheels may fall off, the body panels may fall off (weak glue), but the rest of it is OK right? Well, apart from the bulletproof glass?

So worst case you're rolling down the road on a chassis with no body panels, except you're not really rolling if the wheels fall off.

Hmm.. good job we're not letting in those cheap Chinese EV's and sticking to this top quality homemade stuff.

DarkNova6 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PI_Jl5WFQkA

Extropy_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334

jeffwask 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The original vibe engineering

mentalgear 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> What sort of engineering standards are these Cybertrucks built to?

'Vibe-Engineering'

colechristensen 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It looks like they were designed by a disruptive startup unburdened by the history and experience of designing and building cars.

cogman10 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

It was super delayed and I think that's because they couldn't execute in all the ways they promised they would. The final product is very rushed and pretty different from the initial promises. I think they got into "Let's just ship SOMETHING" mode as the delays were getting insane.

garyfirestorm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

‘We threw the rule book out of the window’

tech4all an hour ago | parent [-]

Also worked very well for the Oceangate Titan submersible.

raverbashing an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> “brake rotor stud holes may crack and allow the stud to separate from the wheel hub.”

Possible

While mechanical failures can happen in all companies, that do sounds like an inexperienced design (maybe from Tesla, maybe from a partner?)

7e an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A 23 year old startup.

crest an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

To the ones of people who like to move fast and break things.

cmxch 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

And they’ll probably just tow the recalled trucks outside the environment.

joshstrange an hour ago | parent [-]

Into another environment?

ianschmitz an hour ago | parent [-]

No, no, no. it’s been towed beyond the environment, it’s not in the environment

Hamuko 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

The same engineering standards as other Teslas are.

Meanwhile, about 63% of Tesla Model Ys failed their first mandatory inspection in Finland. The Tesla Model 3 did a bit better at 59% of cars failing their first inspection for the same model year. However, they're faring a lot worse than the third worst car, the Dacia Duster, at 23%, or other EVs like the Volkswagen ID.4 at 6%.

https://www.hs.fi/visio/art-2000011988306.html

tusimi 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"All 173 of the RWD Cybertrucks sold by Tesla are being recalled"

173...

vablings 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The RWD model was only for sale briefly after launch. I don't know why you would ever want a pure RWD electric truck

alexjplant 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

With the weight of the batteries in back it might be fine. The issue with RWD trucks with traditional drivetrains is the lack of traction owing to all of the weight being over the non-drive wheels. Driving my F-150 in the snow or rain was always dicey because of this.

That being said I wouldn't touch a Tesla with a barge pole for reasons numerous.

cogman10 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Batteries and the engine. The engine sits in line with the wheels rather than being under the hood of the car. That puts all the weight right next to the driving tires.

But agree, cybertruck is a really silly purchase for numerous reasons. The only reason you'd buy it is to signal your support for Elon. It's a very bad vehicle.

bluGill 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

2wd is just fine if you keep a load of firewood in back all winter.

kgermino an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't see why it would be an issue in most cases. Obviously you'd want AWD for proper off-roading, but for just driving around on streets it should be fine. My EV van is RWD and it's totally fine in everything I've dealt with - including deep snow - and I really only even noticed when trying to parallel park on ice.

rpdillon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This has been a question the Slate team has been trying to answer. They claim the weight distribution being more even front-to-back (batteries offsetting motor, I presume), but I don't know whether I believe them. I was interested in a Slate, but the changes at the company lately (new CEO from McKinsey, rather than an engineer), along with decisions like RWD, and the anemic acceleration (0-60 in 8 seconds) gives me pause.

wesleyd 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Oh man, I love that we live in a world where an eight second 0-60 is considered anemic! For a truck!

(Not digging at you, I feel the same way you do. I just think it’s weird and amazing!)

mingus88 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I don’t know how the slate is designed but I have a rivian

The battery pack is by far heavier than the motors. In the r1 they are also positioned with the wheels (quad) or front/back (dual) so weight distribution is great.

If the slate has a single motor and is RWD then I would assume the weight might be biased toward the rear where the drive unit is powering the rear wheels. Either way the motor is relatively small compared to ICE trucks and that’s where you want the weight anyway for a RWD vehicle.

Am I mistaken?

neogodless 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wait until you find out how many gas and diesel powered trucks are RWD!

At least in the U.S. below a certain ~longitude~ latitude it's quite common.

wil421 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Autotrader says there are 246,000 used trucks for sale nationwide with AWD/4WD and 38,000 with rear wheel drive. For new it’s 429,000 AWD/4WD vs 51,000 for rear wheel.

Volume wise it’s of course Texas with Wyoming, Montana, and North Dakota having the largest ownership share.

Tanoc 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

The majority in that statistic are selectable 4WD, which isn't the same as AWD. Pushing the two groups together skews the numbers a bit. Most trucks since the 1970s have been 4WD, ever since companies like Muncie and Borg-Warner started selling axles to Ford and their cohorts. AWD trucks are a relatively new phenomenon, with the first one I can think of being the limited production GMC Syclone in 1989, and it being a truck was an emissions loophole. I think the 2005 Honda Ridgeline was the first real mass produced AWD truck, or perhaps the Subaru Baja from 2003 if you consider that a truck rather than an open deck car. Right now I think only the Ridgeline, Hyundai Santa Cruz, and Ford Maverick are sold as AWD, whereas every other truck is selectable 4WD.

discors an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

    > neogodless: <snip> At least in the U.S. below a certain longitude is quite common.
Latitude.
neogodless an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I KNEW I was going to get that wrong.

bobthepanda an hour ago | parent [-]

The mnemonic i use is latitude is flat.

neogodless an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I usually say to myself "ladder" and that helps. But this time I slipped. Rough morning. Wheels fell off on the way to work.

dec0dedab0de an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I say longitude goes longways, which I know isn't accurate except fairly close to the poles, but I remembered it like that when I was a kid and it stuck.

yread 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Longitude is also twice as long - 360 vs 180 degrees

triceratops an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Latitude is the only one that matters between the two.

DangitBobby an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

latitude -> flatitude

rkomorn an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was going to ask if you were making a joke or just too tired to spell mnemonic correctly, but they would've been pneumatic, not pneumonic.

Edit: oh, boo, you fixed it.

bobthepanda an hour ago | parent [-]

Hadn’t had the morning coffee yet.

mtklein an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I hate to admit it, but the Corona "Change your Latitude" ads are what locked it in for me.

bobthepanda an hour ago | parent [-]

As they say, if it works it’s not stupid.

raverbashing an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Easier mnemonic:

Lots of wines advertise their latitude of origin

Longitudes are meaningless for wines

wat10000 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I probably wouldn't buy a truck, but it's at least a possibility that I'd get one for hauling materials and towing around town. If I did, I'd prefer a RWD model just to save a little money. I find the modern obsession with AWD a bit baffling. AWD doesn't help you stop in bad weather, so it feels like an illusory advantage there. RWD can be "interesting" compared to FWD, but modern traction control on an electric drivetrain should make it a non-issue. (In practice, I can abuse the accelerator on my non-truck RWD Teslas pretty badly without any issues with losing traction.)

cheschire an hour ago | parent | next [-]

When was the last time you drove on an unplowed road with only rear wheel drive?

Unpowered wheels become uni-directional skis, regardless of their ability to turn left and right.

AngryData an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Basically never? And I live in a deep rural area 30 minutes from the northern border. Where do you live that you drive through unplowed roads? The only time ive ever wanted AWD or 4WD is once or twice knowingly risking getting stuck by pulling off of people's driveway onto their lawn.

wat10000 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

A few months ago when it snowed last time.

I used to occasionally drive a V8 with no traction control in Wisconsin winters. It was fine, just took a little care. A modern electric drivetrain is about a million times better.

Unpowered wheels still steer just fine. AWD certainly does better. But I'd rather be cautious and take it slow anyway.

dec0dedab0de an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've never driven an AWD, but having a 4x4 in a snow storm is wonderful. Waking up and driving through the pile of snow from the plow to go to wawa before I even think about shoveling is an absolute luxury. Plus, driving on the beach is pretty fun too.

sunshinesnacks an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> AWD doesn't help you stop in bad weather

I frequently think about this when weather gets bad! I already have AWB (all wheel braking?). Seems like AWD could make it too easy to get in a situation where my AWB isn’t sufficient to stop

saalweachter an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Snow tires, people! Snow tires!

A FWD vehicle with snow tires is frequently better in the snow than an AWD without snow tires. Better control, better stopping, better uphill on snowy roads.

mingus88 19 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yep

All cars are “all wheel stop”

All wheel drive doesn’t matter when you lose traction and need to stop. When you are sliding on ice all cars perform the same, and the quality of your tires is what matters. AWD just gives people false confidence to drive faster than they can stop.

I convinced my wife to stop buying the absolute cheapest tires by telling her it is literally the only part of the car that actually touches the road. Why would you cheap out on that?

dghlsakjg 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Yup. Growing up in Colorado you realize that AWD is frequently the cause of the trouble in bad weather rather than the solution.

creaturemachine an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

You get better regenerative braking performance out of FWD or AWD. Since typically the front brakes do most of the work, it makes sense to have that energy go into the motor rather than friction braking.

kgermino an hour ago | parent [-]

That's true, but if you stay in the regenerative zone it doesn't (seem to) make that much of a difference in practice.

All the braking power happens in the rear if you only brake the rear wheels

mohamedkoubaa an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Collectors item

gangstead 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I didn't even realize there was a RWD model. The website shows 3 options for sale and they are all AWD.

jihadjihad 4 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seems the focus group guy's idea was good after all, kinda fair to just want a wheel that doesn't fall off while I'm driving [0].

0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8YDpvMYk5jA

droidjj 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Gift link: https://www.theverge.com/transportation/926741/tesla-cybertr...

SpyCoder77 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Thank you

xiphias2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't understand the problem, my new car had like 8 recalls in 2 years for problems that might happen, it's just normal

nullstyle an hour ago | parent [-]

Your car had a recall because the wheels might fall off? Which one?

1970-01-01 an hour ago | parent [-]

406,000 Civics were recalled

https://www.reuters.com/business/autos-transportation/honda-...

redwall_hp an hour ago | parent [-]

Specifically, this only affected red-edged premium alloy rims that were OEM made but not installed unless you bought them separately. Not an engineering issue with the vehicle so much as those rims may have had a manufacturing defect in certain batches.

The overly cautious recall announcement was promptly clarified to owners by dealerships, and impacted a small subset. (I have a Civic.)

jpalawaga 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That I can't tell whether "the wheels coming off," is literal or figurative when it comes to Tesla is an indictment about their product quality at this point.

What a disaster. I don't really know anyone who is voluntarily buying Teslas when there are so many other viable options in an increasingly crowded marketplace.

bluGill 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I see a lot of them on the road so somebody must be buying them.

I don't know why, I buy trucks to haul stuff. (and I really wish there was an affordable truck to haul stuff with - everything I can find is 12+ years old and showing age)

Octoth0rpe an hour ago | parent [-]

> I see a lot of them on the road so somebody must be buying them.

Two counterpoints: for all the opinionated criticisms, the cybertruck is at least quite noticeable, and thusly you may think that they are a higher proportion of trucks than they really are.

Also, you're far more likely to see them drive around in certain locales due to the cost, so that may introduce additional biases.

redwall_hp an hour ago | parent [-]

They're the new tax fraud vehicle, replacing the Escalade: a luxury vehicle over a certain weight that gets reported as a "business expense" even when it's for personal use. That's also why a lot of them have shitty decals or stencil-paint advertising local businesses.

kortilla 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Teslas or cyber trucks? If you mean teslas in general then you’re being willfully ignorant because model Ys are the best selling car in the US.

dmix an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

From the article

> but it’s “not aware of any collisions, fatalities, or injuries” related to the recall.

FireBeyond 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Fun fact, for Tesla's FSD/AI reporting, it doesn't consider any incident where airbags didn't deploy to count for accident stats. This includes situations where the airbag system cannot deploy because of catastrophic damage.

It also, strangely, doesn't count fatality incidents.

Extropy_ an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334

athorax an hour ago | parent [-]

Hey just FYI, this kind of behavior is super annoying.

vitaut 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Interviewer: Mr. Musk, I understand the wheels fell off the Cybertruck.

Musk: Well, that’s not very typical. Most vehicles are designed so the wheels don’t fall off.

Interviewer: But these ones did.

Musk: Well obviously. That’s why we recalled them. But wheel retention remains a very high priority at Tesla.

Interviewer: What caused it?

Musk: A minor component interaction that generated maximum freedom.

Interviewer: Freedom?

Musk: For the wheel.

thelastgallon an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Fully self driving wheels! People have been waiting for this feature.

fnoef 14 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

“At this point, I think a know more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive on earth” - Elon Musk [0]

[0] https://m.youtube.com/shorts/S2Bo3S99Tas

lelanthran 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3m5qxZm_JqM

kevin_thibedeau 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're replacing both front and rear rotors. Is there a reason the rears are different than the AWD models?

UltraSane 16 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The cybertruck is such a disaster it should have gotten Elon fired but that is impossible.

mrcwinn 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The wheels really came off this project.

jgalt212 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why should they do anything correctly? The stock trades at 400 PE. The market is telling them to keep doing whatever is they are doing.

https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/TSLA/

moogly 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

xXxTeslaSpaceAIxXx could just solve this and their future orbital payload oversupply problem by launching them into orbit.

"Where we're going, we're not going to need wheels."

Did they glue on these wheels too, like the pedals that fell off?

ajross an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lest folks get too carried away, the headline is a lie. The failure is "brake rotor stud separating from wheel hub". Now, sure, that's a serious failure. It's not "wh33lz f411 oFF!".

Everything about this company is cursed at this point. The jeering masses are just as bad as the CEO.

The cars themselves though continue to be really pretty great. Though maybe not the truck.

bri3d an hour ago | parent | next [-]

I'm actually really confused about the language used in the recall; I looked at the Cybertruck manual and the brakes look like a "conventional" design where the studs are set into the hub and go through the rotor, so this failure seems somewhat unrelated to the brake rotors, and the "brake rotor stud" is also the wheel stud: https://service.tesla.com/docs/Cybertruck/ServiceManual/en-u...

I'm assuming it's a misphrasing or typo and the issue is that the stud holes in the wheel hub rotor can elongate, leading to the studs coming out. This can and likely would absolutely cascade into a wheel falling off; I've seen it many times in cheapo endurance racing series - once one stud is loose, the adjacent studs gradually loosen and eventually the wheel separates. If the issue is longitudinal (slotting) it's even more likely to lead to a rapid separation event.

mvid an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The masses may be annoying, and even sometimes hyperbolic, but they are nowhere near as bad as the CEO

allears an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No problem, that'll buff right out

Finnucane an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Jeez, "wheels not falling off car" has been a solved problem since at least the 1965 Corvair.

dnemmers 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Please tell me they had the wheels studs mounted into a steel hub, and not aluminum…

garyfirestorm 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes and yes

DarkNova6 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sorry, but every time I read news about the Cybertruck I have to think of the Simpsons Canyonero song:

Can you name the truck that's been recalled twelve times, Costs less each month 'cause nobody's buying mine?

Cybertruck! Cybertruck!

(Whip crack!)

Her trim falls off when you drive through rain, The steering locks up on the highway lane!

Cybertruck! Cybertruck!

Top of the line in utility trucks! Started at a hundred, now they're slashing bucks!

She's got a price that drops faster than her resale value, And a windshield wiper motor that'll surely fail you!

Cybertruck! Cybertruck!

(Whip crack!)

Twelve recalls in a single year! Drive-by-wire that fills your heart with fear!

The accelerator pedal pops right off the floor, But Elon says it's you who doesn't love her more!

Cybertruck!

She rusts if you look at her wrong in the dew, The tonneau cover works... for a week or two!

She's marked down like a Kmart blue-light special now, A stainless steel disaster and a broken vow!

Cybertruck! Cybertruck!

(Whip crack!)

Whoaaa, Cybertruck!

CYBERTRUCK!

ryandrake 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Massively underrated post. To the 500ms drive-by voters, look at it closely, it's not just a copy/paste from the Simpsons.

baggachipz an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

This is amazing. I don't know if you stole it or you're a poetic genius, but rest assured that I'm stealing it.

ceejayoz an hour ago | parent [-]

> the Simpsons

baggachipz an hour ago | parent [-]

I know the Canyonero bit, but repurposing it to Cybertruck is high art.

jeffbee 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rivian had to recall all of theirs for the same reason. Turns out a 3-ton car is hard to engineer.

edaemon 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I have a 2022 Rivian and I don't remember any recalls for brake rotors or wheels falling off. There was one about a year after they made the first R1T where they had forgotten to record the torque of a bolt for the upper control arm during assembly, but the recall just involved having the torque checked, they didn't have to replace anything. Is that the recall you're thinking of?

jeffbee an hour ago | parent [-]

They told everyone who owned a rivian at that time to stop driving it immediately until the guy could come out and put the wheels back on. That is a recall.

edaemon 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't think that's true. I owned my Rivian at that time. There was a recall but I never received any instructions similar to that. They had everyone drive to the nearest service center to have the bolt torque checked, or you could book a mobile service appointment.

You can see the Oct 6 2022 recall information here, including what they instructed people to do: https://rivian.com/support/article/recall-information

iqihs 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Patently false headline, paywalled article, and blatantly left leaning source. Loving the state of media in 2026.

kennywinker 8 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

If you’d like another source, by all means you can type “cybertruck recall” into your search engine of choice.

throw1234567891 36 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Stick a political agenda in. Are you a tesla employee?

sourcegrift 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Rocket man bad (after 2022)

kennywinker 11 minutes ago | parent [-]

Rocket man has been bad for a lot longer than that

shevy-java an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Anyone still wants to buy a Tesla though?

The design used to be futuristic-novel. But novelty passes - it now looks like a car pressed to pieces in a shredder. And it is very expensive. But most importantly, after Elon did his right-arm raise gesture twice, even aside from mass-firing people at DOGE or elsewhere ... does anyone still want to give more money to a very strange oligarch, who uses money to buy more influence and opinions here? Or buys a platform to turn it into a propaganda amplifier for his strange remarks about race and ethnicity?

almost_usual 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Junk

LightBug1 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Forgive me, but LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

Great headline. What a POS.

cubefox an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

173 cars are being recalled. The Verge always tries to make anything remotely involving Musk sound as bad as possible.

adrian_b 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Those 173 were all that were sold ...

cubefox 14 minutes ago | parent [-]

Exactly, very few of the potentially affected cars were sold, but their headline makes it sound way worse than it is.

stathibus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you're reading this thinking "wow, a recall! tesla must suck at building cars!" then you probably don't know anything about how the automotive industry works and you should refrain from commenting

fckgw an hour ago | parent | next [-]

3 verified failures out of 173 total cars is an extremely bad rate for the automotive industry.

fourside 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Sounds like the parent comment probably doesn’t know much about how the auto industry works and should refrain from commenting.

Extropy_ an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48064334

alphax314 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Its not about the recall. Every car manufacturer has many per model. Its about the wheels about to fall off

kibwen an hour ago | parent [-]

Stop being mean to the poor car company worth 1.6 trillion dollars, they're doing their best. :(

FireBeyond 18 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Even people who know about building cars think Tesla sucks at building cars. Which is why in an interview about speeding up the production line, the head of Volkswagen's production lines thought that a duration that was still almost twice as long as a Tesla spent on the line was about their lower floor and that anything less would be problematic.

Maybe that's why their cars ship with their windshields glued on, all the time, or all of their brake pads, all of the time, or secured body panels, all the time.

Or maybe he should have refrained from commenting?

solumunus an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you think these cars are well engineered and reliable?!

jjk166 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

It's worth noting that crack formation is affected by more than just the design - variation in material and manufacturing steps could also contribute. A more robust design can potentially compensate for material or process variability, but those variables were likely not known nor knowable during the design stage. We should not boo companies for acknowledging and correcting issues which may not have been reasonably foreseeable.

p-o 42 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes, absolutely. The Cybertruck was indeed the first of its kind to have 4 wheels attached to its structure. No car company before Tesla had ever done this before and as such, it was impossible to gauge what kind of material was best suited to handle stress over long period of time.

It's just ridiculous.

teucris an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> those variables were likely not known nor knowable during the design stage.

But they could have included an error factor in the designing process. I thought this was standard for manufacturing. And they could have done more robust testing which, again, I thought was pretty standard for manufacturing.

dghlsakjg 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I would have thought that material and process variability would be one of the primary design constraints in physical engineering?