| ▲ | at1as 7 hours ago |
| I'm currently on a marathon to keep my M1 Pro running until the M7 Pro/Max is available. Not sure if I'll make it, but I'm not eager to pay $6000+ for a decent spec dev computer, until I really have to |
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| ▲ | epistasis 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I'm loving my M1 Macbook Air still, and only a few weeks away from six years of use Sometimes it lags a bit when I'm running a macOS VM, and all the coding agent VMs, so I'm kind of interested in going to 32GB of RAM, but honestly this computer is still faster than any of my laptops that came before, even with the visual atrocity of Liquid Glass. I'll go and look at this new box, drool a little, and realize that I'd get more personal utility from donating $3k (or whatever the trade in delta is) to a charity than upgrading my computer. |
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| ▲ | markstos 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | My son's M1 Air CPU died suddenly. Maybe it was a thermal death from overheating. Not sure. But all the data on it was lost because the storage is soldered on. PSA to make sure devices with non-removable storage are backed up! (We replaced it with a Framework... with removable storage.) | | |
| ▲ | tynorf 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > PSA to make sure devices with non-removable storage are backed up! Really this should be devices full stop. Also, "backed up" should include no fewer than two backups on different media and in different physical locations e.g. Time Machine to an external SSD _plus_ continuous cloud backup. | |
| ▲ | Schiendelman 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Isn't icloud backup on by default?? | | |
| ▲ | simonh 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Kind of, but without a sub you only get a trivial amount of storage. |
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| ▲ | dzhiurgis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can't a decent shop desolder it tho? | | |
| ▲ | judge2020 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | That's a big ask. Probably only work the few hundred it'd take to do that, then get the data off it, if you had some super important documents // crypto wallet. | |
| ▲ | bdavbdav 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Key is held on a separate chip unfortunately |
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| ▲ | samatman 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is a not-very-large subset of the ways you can permanently lose data which exists in only one copy. Have a Time Machine. No step two. > We replaced it with a Framework... with removable storage. Cool. How are you backing it up? |
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| ▲ | thenthenthen 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I got a second hand M1 air like two years ago for 200usd with 1tb hdd and 16gb ram. I got it after my intel Air died after about..12 years? (Edit: the ssd died, which is removable… but literally had a plane to catch). All my pros have died within a few years. Air all the way. Never looking back. | | |
| ▲ | giwook 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > All of my pros have died within a few years What are you doing to them? I still have MBPs from 2015 and 2018 that have not 'died'. | | |
| ▲ | thenthenthen 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Just use. There were two models that had issues with the gpu desoldering, 2012 and 2015 iirc? I was lucky enough to have them. I put the mobos in the oven (180deg for seven minutes?) and that would fix it. For about a month… and then 2 weeks.. and then… I actually have a 2018 that I borrowed from a friend after my 2013 Air ssd gave up, it is still working I think, but its twice as slow, at least as my Air was. Its so weird. The Air stayed ‘snappy’ even after my friends Pro’s would become too sluggish. Maybe because I never update ;) | | | |
| ▲ | wilkystyle 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Similar experience. In active use in my house: 2012 MacBook Pro
2015 MacBook Pro
2019 MacBook Air
2020 M1 MacBook Pro
The longevity is incredible. | | |
| ▲ | simonh 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My first gen 5k iMac (2014) is our kitchen machine these days. Still a joy to use. The final gen (2020) model is still my main machine. I almost wish one of them would konk out so I can get an M series, but then I wouldn’t be on a 5k iMac anymore, which would suck. Love these machines. |
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| ▲ | evantbyrne 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The old airs were legendary. My 2012 still runs just fine despite being beaten to hell. Would still be a great dev machine for non-GPU workloads if it weren't for a lack of OS updates. Have been very happy with my M1 Pro as well though. | | |
| ▲ | monegator 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | the 2012 was a really solid generation (the 2010 as well. i still have both, not running osx anymore of course) | |
| ▲ | reaperducer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Another 2012 Air user here. The battery doesn't hold a charge anymore, but as long as it's plugged in, it keeps chugging along. | | |
| ▲ | awad 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Wow turns out there's a whole community of us! Same boat. I usually recycle, hand me down, trade-in but have really had a hard time letting that little one go. |
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| ▲ | TacticalCoder 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The old airs were legendary. You gotta be kidding me. The old M1 Air had the "bendgate" where several people, me included, saw their screen die overnight for no reason. Tens and tens of pages of people complaining about it only to be with "you're holding it wrong" answers. Insanity. I think Apple fixed that mess with the gen after that one. | | |
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| ▲ | epistasis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I wonder if this is from not trying to get maximum performance, and instead focusing on efficiency? But I've noticed this too. I definitely prefer the Air form factor over larger models as the primary benefit, but the durability seems to be a big benefit too. Fewer ports, thinner shell that seals tighter and can't flex as much due to the curved metal instead of flat surfaces... everything about it just seems like a better design. | | |
| ▲ | thenthenthen 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Yeah the formfactor, the noise, the heat… even the performance seems better except for what, benchmarks..? | | |
| ▲ | asdff 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | No fans though. I like being able to crank them full blast. I'm not sure this pro would ever actually run the fans all out with my usage with the existing fan curve. Apple always favors it running quiet and hot, but I don't mind loud and prefer cool palms. I grew up with far more noisy rigs. |
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| ▲ | JMiao 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | incredible deal |
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| ▲ | brandonpelfrey 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I bought my M1 Pro the week it came out and it was unlike any computer I ever had, expectations, compute, battery life especially. It was just a joy to use and not worry about chargers. I'm so glad they went this path. | |
| ▲ | freakynit 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I freaking hate liquid-glass UI Apple has "forced" onto us. No freaking way to disable it. I hate it so much. | | |
| ▲ | woah 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Been on HN for many years now, and the one thing that never changes is people posting angrily about small UI changes. It makes me wonder- if things have only ever gotten worse, what was the peak UI? MS DOS? | | |
| ▲ | ericd 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd say Snow Leopard was peak. | |
| ▲ | linguae 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | On the Windows side, Windows 2000 and XP/Vista/7’s Classic mode, though Aero was quite nice. I’m not a fan of the interfaces from 8 onward, and I didn’t like Luna in XP. On the Mac side, it’s a toss up between the platinum interface of Mac OS 8/9 and Mac OS X Tiger. With that said, I have a work-issued MacBook Pro running Golden Gate as my daily driver, and Liquid Glass is alright. It’s not what I’d prefer if I had a choice, but it’s not a dramatic departure from previous versions of macOS. A Cheetah or Puma Mac OS X user should be able to navigate Golden Gate with ease, mostly. | |
| ▲ | larsmaxfield 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Liquid Glass was not a "small UI change". It disrupted many accessibility aspects of macOS, so much so that Apple toned down quite a few aspects of the design in subsequent updates, even adding a slider to reduce the effect. [1] The quantity of requests for how to disable Liquid Glass on Apple Discussions is staggering. [2] [1]https://www.macrumors.com/2026/06/09/macos-golden-gate-liqui... [2]https://discussions.apple.com/thread/256227663 | |
| ▲ | asdff 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think the biggest thing isn't really whatever it is but the act of changing and forcing everyone to change into the new ui that is the disruptive part. It is a combination of window dressing changing but also sometimes functions breaking. It is ironic because software written for developers prides itself generally on maintaining compatibility with say depreciated flags, or if things will be depreciated plenty of notice ahead of time. But that only holds for cli software. GUI software and the OS that all goes out the window. Stuff breaks, workflows break, you have no recourse and in fact they might make it genuinely difficult to go back to an older version. Like this part of it is the shitty part. Never mind how it happens to look. It is the forcing effect. | | |
| ▲ | setr 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think it’s also because these UI changes are always designed to improve first-impression and first-usage. They are outright hostile to anyone who wants to go fast and get faster — the power user. At minimum the re-arrangement resets any gains you had, and at maximum its irrecoverable because the UI is now fundamentally designed to slow you down. This eventually becomes awkwardly precise complaints about information density and general change; but the underlying issue is I want to go fast and the system says no | | |
| ▲ | ericd 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I think the only real solution to this is to switch to an OS with a backing org that has optimization for power users as a first-class goal. I've been liking Omarchy and NixOS for that. I say this as a Mac user since 1989. |
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| ▲ | rzzzt 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Windows 2000 / XP in classic mode / XP / Vista / 7. For OSX I'd say High Sierra to Catalina. | | |
| ▲ | al_borland 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | I’d go with Tiger (10.4) for peak OS X, personally. | | |
| ▲ | asdff 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Leopard was better because it introduced spaces. Honestly I think that whole concept (I know windows has something analogous now) was the biggest step change in OS functionality I've seen in my life having started on windows 95. | | |
| ▲ | al_borland 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I never used Spaces much. Apple was actually last to the party on that. Linux had virtual desktops for years at that point, and Windows had them as well through Microsoft PowerToys. I’m pretty sure I was running it on Windows 2000. | |
| ▲ | ant6n 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The problem is that window management is so atrocious in Mac OS that using multiple desktops is just asking for trouble. Like of you close one window of some software, it will jump to some random other window of the same software on some other desktop. In the end you’ll spend a significant amount of your time trying to “get back” to where you just where (that alt-tab, a possible savior for this in all other OSs, doesn’t work at all on Mac just adds to the UX mess) | | |
| ▲ | asdff 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Ehh I'm not to caught up with window management on macos. Bunch of shells open I might use tmux. But otherwise I just keep things in piles organized in spaces, and use expose all to get to whatever I need in the pile. It works much like the piles on my desk in real life so I'm comfortable with it. But it was better in leopard when it was a grid of spaces vs a line of spaces. Less rigidity was nice. | | |
| ▲ | ant6n 2 minutes ago | parent [-] | | But even then. If you close a terminal, it'll jump to some random terminal on another desktop. It just doesn't make any sense. |
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| ▲ | oofabz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Mac OS 7.6.1 was peak Apple | |
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| ▲ | epistasis 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Small improvements don't get much accolades. And for the most part, the UX is so good that most changes tend to be neutral or for the worse. And when you're really attached to something and there's on an unnecessary change, it feels almost like betrayal! I, for one, prefer Apple products because they sweat the small stuff more than the other options, and when they have put in effort to make things worse it's kind of infuriating. I do a bit of desktop Linux work too, and it's OK, but hard to complain when it's all open source volunteer work! Windows is so terrible that I wouldn't even know where to start. What's the point? There's nobody at Microsoft that even gives a damn. | |
| ▲ | cmoski 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No, it was Windows 3.11 | |
| ▲ | pebble 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Small? |
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| ▲ | randomblock1 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There's a slider to reduce the liquidity | |
| ▲ | dzhiurgis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Whats so forced on you? I'm on still on Sequoia and no one forced me to update to latest OS. Everything still works and I get security updates. | | |
| ▲ | zerd an hour ago | parent [-] | | They're going to force us soon. When getting a new device I don't think you can install an older version either. |
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| ▲ | bluecalm 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The way things are going you will be able to run your favorite flavor of Linux on those pretty soon.
It will be the best of both worlds: the best hardware and a good OS. Hopefully Apple doesn't take steps to block it. | |
| ▲ | BugsJustFindMe 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > No freaking way to disable it. Um. https://imgur.com/a/ydt3MN5 | | |
| ▲ | tedd4u 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Liquid Glass is more than just the transparency. There are many other changes that cannot be disabled that way. Not to mention the overall lag compared to Sequoia (I skipped Tahoe entirely so I had a direct knife-edge transition). 27 is less bad than 26 but Liquid Glass doesn't make anything better than prior UI and makes several things worse, even if you turn down the transparency. | | |
| ▲ | ndiddy 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I imagine that the UI changes since Sequoia regarding the giant buttons and whitespace are because Apple plans to release a touchscreen laptop (most rumors say it will be announced tomorrow) so they've decided to make the UI touch friendly at the expense of bloating the UI for everyone who doesn't have a touchscreen. Microsoft made this same decision with the Windows releases after 7. | | |
| ▲ | LoganDark 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | The rumors also said it would be announced today, so we'll just have to see. Even a broken clock is right twice a day, after all. |
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| ▲ | sgarrity 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Stay strong! I went from an M1 to M5 generation, and it was a nice bump, but I could have gone another year without any significant impact on my quality of life/work. |
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| ▲ | monk_grilla an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Also M1 Pro here. Any reason why you're planning to upgrade at M7 Pro? I still don't feel the need to upgrade, as much as I wish I could justify it. I like to factory reset my devices every couple of years, it really gives them a new lease on life. My M1 Pro feels as smooth and fast as the day I got it. |
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| ▲ | teaearlgraycold 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I think the rumors are the M6 and then later M7 Pro/Max will be put into a new chassis with a touchscreen and no notch. |
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| ▲ | aerhardt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My M1 MacBook Pro has been the best hardware investment I’ve ever made. I had planned to update it in 2025 at the four year mark, but it’s still going strong so I don’t see a reason. The new plan is to go to the Apple store the very day that it dies. |
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| ▲ | jwilcoxson 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My M1 Pro has been great, certainly doesn’t feel like a 5-year old computer. |
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| ▲ | mortenjorck 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’ve been a Mac user for 20 years and it’s wild to think how slow my 2003 PowerBook G4 or even my 2008 MacBook Pro felt after five years compared with my 2021 M1 Pro. My 2013 Core i7 took almost eight years to get to where the previous ones were at five, and if it weren’t for local LLMs pushing me toward an upgrade in the next year or two, I have to imagine my M1 Pro could be my daily driver well into the next decade. | |
| ▲ | NorthSouthNorth 44 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | My 16" M1 Pro personal laptop is literally just as smooth for 99% of tasks as my work M5 pro. It's crazy how well they built these. I mean the screen on this and the speakers are superb. And you can find these for like 500-800 bucks 2nd hand. I just hope they give us a few more years of MacOS updates. | |
| ▲ | freakynit 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | M1 Air guy here... I'm not looking for a replacement still. Almost 6 years now. Runs butter-smooth. Best tech purchase I ever made. | | |
| ▲ | xXSLAYERXx 7 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Have an M1 air as well. Got a Pro m5. For daily coding tasks, and general web browsing the M1 air still holds. I'm going to pass it on to my kid. Reminds me of the honda we have that we'll also pass down. | |
| ▲ | sneak an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The M series MBAirs, and ofc the M1 originally, are hands down THE BEST laptops ever made. I have a maxed out MBP ofc but the Airs are unbeatable quality and price/performance. I think the M1+ MacBook Airs will be regarded eventually like the original Macintosh originally the iPod, or the introduction of the original Air and the creation of the product class that came to be known as “ultrabooks”. It really changed everything about laptops to have a fantastic keyboard, speakers, screen, trackpad, hinge, and 12+ hour battery life… for $1k. |
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| ▲ | dmtroyer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | generally agree, although mine's battery health has been sitting at 80% for what seems like ages now. | |
| ▲ | incanus77 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Same, and I dual-boot Asahi as well. | |
| ▲ | TrainedMonkey 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Biggest issue with my M3 Max is apple mandatory fun bloatware. I think it's the same playbook as phones long term. The hardware is still powerful but the software is optimized for the latest CPU, so older models run hot, take a fraction of the second longer to load the resources, etc. That stacks up over 5-6 years of releases to make older models feel slower. | | |
| ▲ | at1as 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've held back an OS update or two, specifically because I'm worried about performance dropoff on the old chip But with all of the AI-discovered exploits I think it'll become more important to keep everything up to date | | |
| ▲ | sneak an hour ago | parent [-] | | Apple makes security updates available for the last few major OS versions, and even backports really bad ones further back on a case by case basis. |
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| ▲ | arjie 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I've been using my M1 Max 64 GB for 5 years now and it's pretty zippy once you rewrite some slow software. I have an M4 Max with 128 GB but I never ended up migrating to it. That's how good it is. |
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| ▲ | antihero 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I do enjoy the fact that if software annoys you, it’s easy as hell to simply generate a better version. |
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| ▲ | nidnogg an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I figured my direct family could use an extra Macbook, so I decided to "peel" my M1 Pro away as a gift to my mom. It stays close, I can use her unused space as backup, provide ad-hoc Tailscale to her (way smoother than with her crufty Windows machine), and I get a nice upgrade to my current workflows. Having said that, I did plan on sticking it out 7 years. Ended up bailing on an M5 Pro! |
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| ▲ | Spartan-S63 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I had an M1 Max machine with 32GB of memory and upgraded it to an M4 Max machine with 128GB of memory for local AI model experimentation. It's sad that M5 (and M6) are so much faster at prefilling and other LLM-related operations, but I'm happy with the computer I got and will keep it at least 3-4 generations. |
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| ▲ | dofm 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They really have radically improved the situation for prefill speed! But the generation speed is behind enough that you'd notice. An M4 Max is a great choice I think. |
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| ▲ | raffraffraff an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| M1 Max 64gb here, running Qwen 3.6 35b (unsloth 4bit) and it's plenty usable, and cheap used. Best bang for buck. |
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| ▲ | gkanai 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| M1 Max, 32GB, 1TB; still not feeling the need to upgrade, especially when the upgrade is as expensive as they are now. |
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| ▲ | pazimzadeh 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Doesn't the high resale value of Macs not make it worthwhile to hang on to your old one as long as possible? Also why would you have to spend $6000? You can get a refurbished 16-inch M5 Pro with 48 Gb RAM and 1 Tb SSD from Apple for $3000. |
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| ▲ | judge2020 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| IMO Apple knows a ton of people are doing this, especially with the rumors on memory bandwidth aka LPDDR6X bringing huge generational uplifts[0], which is why it seems they haven't brought down trade-in values from a few weeks ago, at least for my base spec M2 Pro MBP - Still $835. Pretty compelling to do that and pay just over $100/mo for a year to get a M6, given I've already gotten >3 years out of it. 0: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48681392 |
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| ▲ | ramijames 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They will pry my M1 Pro Macbook from my cold, dead fingers. |
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| ▲ | Aurornis 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I also have a high spec M1 and was delaying upgrading, but eventually I needed more RAM. My M1 is still fast and enjoyable, but I regret to inform you that the M5 actually does feel faster in day to day use. I thought for sure I wouldn’t notice, but the difference is there. When I do large builds the difference is also bigger than I was expecting. |
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| ▲ | moecables 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have an M1 Pro as well but my next computer will be a split setup mainly because I realized that I'm most often working / focusing on hard things while at the desk and just browsing / checking in on things when I'm away from the desk so I'm thinking something like: - a low end Macbook Pro or Air - Mac Studio, mid-to-high specs |
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| ▲ | asdff 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Why not just continue to use your m1 pro as your low end client? Save a couple hundred. | | |
| ▲ | moecables 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | that's the plan for now, I just haven't had the M1 Pro slow down/hang/lag enough to give it up. It's a mid-range M1 Pro with 32GB of ram, works for me for dev work, I don't run any local LLM or resource intensive things on it. Battery only has 250 cycles on it so it's not like it dies off-charger. | | |
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| ▲ | a34729t 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have M1 Maxes (one for work, one for home) that perform as good as new, as far as I can tell. Only thing they lack is an Nvidia GPU. I might pick up the new uber-studio though tmw when it launches (presumably). |
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| ▲ | andkenneth 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think I'm on the same computer, the M1 MBP with the touchbar right? I was eyeing an upgrade for a while but now that I've transitioned to running agents on a home server instead of locally, I think I'll be putting my money into a ram upgrade for that box instead. My macbook is basically a dumb terminal at this point, the only reason for an upgrade would be battery life. I might get an air or even a neo if this thing dies. |
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| ▲ | marinhero 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same here! M1 Max going strong. I'm curious to see what they put out tomorrow but spending over 5K in a machine is a pretty rough pill to swallow |
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| ▲ | vjvjvjvjghv 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have tried an M4 Macbook a while ago but my M1 Max Macbook still feels plenty fast. Hope to keep that for a long time. |
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| ▲ | Gigachad 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I have a M1 pro for personal use and an M4 pro from work and I don't notice any difference switching between them. The M1 is still more than enough for most computer usage. | | |
| ▲ | icedchai 10 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The only reason I upgraded from an M1 Pro to an M4 Pro is because I wanted more RAM. The processor itself was still plenty fast. |
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| ▲ | lhoff 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I just bought a m1 Air with 8GB as secondary device to the m4 mbp that my employer provides since they dialed up the spyware lately.
I should have bought a m4 Air last November but I hope the m1 holdes until the rampocalypse is over. |
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| ▲ | herunan 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I have an M1 and an M5 MBA. For the most part, the M1 is doing extremely well, but imo this is the year where M1 is showing its age. |
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| ▲ | boringg 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Im on that same cycle. M1 pro max still running strong though. 3 cycles might be hard though... |
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| ▲ | sneak an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| That’s what even low spec computers used to cost, not even adjusted for inflation. I don’t think spending $200-400/month on a hardware budget that enables me to earn 50-100x that is that onerous, we just think “six grand for a laptop???!?” But it’s ridiculously cheap for what it is. We wouldn’t be similarly shocked at a $6k car, for example. |
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| ▲ | moralestapia an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Why wouldn't it make it? Mine is running great and it has 24/7 use. |
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| ▲ | meerita 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| M1 Pro here as well. I will buy M6 Pro Mac Studio o Mac mini. |
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| ▲ | ErneX 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If the rumours are true (about AI capabilities) it’d be best to wait yes. |
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| ▲ | hmokiguess 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | which rumours? | | |
| ▲ | speedgoose 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | The M7 will the much better for local LLM inference. If you can afford the memory. | | |
| ▲ | hmokiguess 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | Oh interesting, any more info on "how"? | | |
| ▲ | smallmancontrov 6 hours ago | parent [-] | | With a three point plan, I suspect: memory bandwidth, memory bandwidth, and more memory bandwidth. | | |
| ▲ | shwaj an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Plus with more low precision compute… to help with the memory bandwidth! | |
| ▲ | heroiccocoa 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How useful would that actually be for local inference, when the bottleneck is, essentially, always memory size? I think the sweet spot is somewhere around 64 to 128 GB. That ought to be enough for almost all uses, like Qwen3.8-Flash-Next at a decent quant. | | |
| ▲ | skohan 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Memory size is a bottleneck, but I have found that speed is very important for getting actual work done. Running a big model is great, but if you're getting 10t/s you're going to be spending a lot of time waiting. | |
| ▲ | kridsdale1 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I think the sweet spot is somewhere around 64 to 128 GB. That ought to be enough for almost all uses This will be the “640kb ought to be enough for anybody” Bill Gates quote of our era. | |
| ▲ | smallmancontrov 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | You can order a 128GB MacBook Pro today -- though point taken, memory size probably does belong in the three part plan :-) |
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| ▲ | kridsdale1 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | More ASIC Mat-Mul too. |
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| ▲ | platevoltage 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My M2 pro is perfect still other than the fact that the 16gb of RAM is killing me. |
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| ▲ | green-salt 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Right there with you |
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| ▲ | efficax 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| still rocking the m1 studio, shows no signs of stopping |
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