I got a second hand M1 air like two years ago for 200usd with 1tb hdd and 16gb ram. I got it after my intel Air died after about..12 years? (Edit: the ssd died, which is removable… but literally had a plane to catch). All my pros have died within a few years. Air all the way. Never looking back.

▲ giwook 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> All of my pros have died within a few years

What are you doing to them?

I still have MBPs from 2015 and 2018 that have not 'died'.

▲ thenthenthen 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Just use. There were two models that had issues with the gpu desoldering, 2012 and 2015 iirc? I was lucky enough to have them. I put the mobos in the oven (180deg for seven minutes?) and that would fix it. For about a month… and then 2 weeks.. and then… I actually have a 2018 that I borrowed from a friend after my 2013 Air ssd gave up, it is still working I think, but its twice as slow, at least as my Air was. Its so weird. The Air stayed ‘snappy’ even after my friends Pro’s would become too sluggish. Maybe because I never update ;)

	▲	giwook 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Sounds like user error tbh.

▲ wilkystyle 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Similar experience. In active use in my house:

    2012 MacBook Pro
    2015 MacBook Pro
    2019 MacBook Air
    2020 M1 MacBook Pro

The longevity is incredible.

	▲	simonh 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My first gen 5k iMac (2014) is our kitchen machine these days. Still a joy to use. The final gen (2020) model is still my main machine. I almost wish one of them would konk out so I can get an M series, but then I wouldn’t be on a 5k iMac anymore, which would suck. Love these machines.

▲ evantbyrne 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The old airs were legendary. My 2012 still runs just fine despite being beaten to hell. Would still be a great dev machine for non-GPU workloads if it weren't for a lack of OS updates. Have been very happy with my M1 Pro as well though.

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monegator 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

the 2012 was a really solid generation (the 2010 as well. i still have both, not running osx anymore of course)

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reaperducer 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Another 2012 Air user here.

The battery doesn't hold a charge anymore, but as long as it's plugged in, it keeps chugging along.

	▲	awad 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Wow turns out there's a whole community of us! Same boat. I usually recycle, hand me down, trade-in but have really had a hard time letting that little one go.

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TacticalCoder 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> The old airs were legendary.

You gotta be kidding me. The old M1 Air had the "bendgate" where several people, me included, saw their screen die overnight for no reason. Tens and tens of pages of people complaining about it only to be with "you're holding it wrong" answers. Insanity.

I think Apple fixed that mess with the gen after that one.

	▲	reaperducer an hour ago \| parent [-]
		We're not talking about M-series Airs.

▲ epistasis 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I wonder if this is from not trying to get maximum performance, and instead focusing on efficiency? But I've noticed this too. I definitely prefer the Air form factor over larger models as the primary benefit, but the durability seems to be a big benefit too. Fewer ports, thinner shell that seals tighter and can't flex as much due to the curved metal instead of flat surfaces... everything about it just seems like a better design.

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thenthenthen 6 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah the formfactor, the noise, the heat… even the performance seems better except for what, benchmarks..?

	▲	asdff 5 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No fans though. I like being able to crank them full blast. I'm not sure this pro would ever actually run the fans all out with my usage with the existing fan curve. Apple always favors it running quiet and hot, but I don't mind loud and prefer cool palms. I grew up with far more noisy rigs.

▲ JMiao 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

incredible deal