I think people responded that way because you strongly implied he was an unserious vibecoder who was just fooling around, and you called him suspicious as fuck.

Your post and the ones that followed are a good example of the contrarian dynamic that dang often talks about. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

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If this is your first HN account and you haven't seen the site in the prior decade, the "emotionally charged responses centered in the personal credentials of the author" is the SOP. The site has yielded to that attitude because dang never enforced a sensible code of conduct, and relies mostly on favoritism and in-groups. Who says is more important than what is said, and the critiques you give are ranked according to whom you are critical of.

Think of this as a propaganda channel of a VC startup incubator who is brazenly looking for a product-market fit for anything and everything AI. Look at the roster of the recent startups and how many are AI-focused. Adjust expectations from there.

It was a fair critique, but if you're looking for feedback I think people were probably responding to your last line.

"I'm glad you're having fun vibecoding" comes across as very backhanded and condescending. It sounds like you may have actually meant that genuinely, but it doesn't read that way in text form.

"you sound sus af" is not respectful or constructive in my opinion. It's a description of your own feelings, not a critique of the project, and there's not really any way for the author to respond besides ignoring it or saying "sorry you feel that way" or something.

I think that line undermines the rest of your comment, because I'm left thinking that you don't really expect good answers to your questions and you just think the whole thing is dumb.

I'm not familiar with the author, and I'm still mildly offended by your comment.

If I have years of experience on the topic and invested significant time into the project, I'd not be as civil as the author if someone came in and essentially called it vibecoded slop.

There is nothing weird about how others pointed out that the project appears to have merit contrary to how it at first might have looked to you.

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The Bend1 launch was very successful, with 1000+ hn upvotes [0] and with several youtube videos with up to 1M+ views [1] [2] - that's where a lot of the popularity came from, I believe. They just recycled the Bend1 repo for Bend2 even though it's a completely different language.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40390287

[1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HCOQmKTFzYY

[2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaytZOiX3fs

Does anyone know where they bought the popularity and contributors from? I would like to do this for my joke language to fool unsuspecting users into using it seriously

The history is back...

Yeah 100% those are purchased/fake

Lean4 itself has 9k

I cannot understand the hostility being directed towards you for this project. It seems very interesting. Your reply was very well thought out. I am very confused.

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As a matter of fact, I've been poking at this from a slightly different direction: "axioms and invariants" within home automation scenes.

Invariants were like "if outside temp < 40 or inside temp < 65: heater.minTemp( 65 )"

Axioms were like: "if {we're home} and it's {not a holiday} the house should be {comfortable temperature}".prompt

...and then that would get decomposed and translated into interlocking code for the scene(s). I'll have to look at this language a little more closely with those kinds of constraints in mind!

You're kindof translating `*.prompt` to either prolog (yucky!), lisp, lua, or javascript (for inspectability/debuggability), but this whole bend thing might be an exact fit for the problem space! Limited set of objects and states, bounded set of "invariants" (laws), and layering on top the general state modification activities (either "evaluated every 5 minutes and reconciled" or "set the scene xyz...").

The number of times I've looked into something that was highly upvoted and purported to solve a problem only for it to be unreadable crap that barely functions has definitely skyrocketed over the past few years. In a way it's similar to how 80% of people only read the headline, except it's psychosis around the equivalent of a dressed up pile of trash.