>who was just fooling around

In my own professional life, I've found this to be a very divisive statement. For some, it is a sign of wasting time and effort. For others, they use this to describe themselves when they want to do exploration for the goal of finding improvements, without any clear goal because they have a few ideas but none worth putting forward. I've been told to spend time learning AI and have found that saying "Yeah, I'm playing around with it." was the wrong thing to say because it was seen as not doing anything worthwhile. It doesn't matter that I would also say the majority of my tech skills were developed when I was "playing around".

I wonder if this is purely a linguistics breakdown, or if this is tied to some deeper difference in a person's relationship to tech?

> called him suspicious as fuck

I don’t see anything from your parent commenter on the other thread that deserves that classification. On the contrary, while they initially had suspicious of vibe coding, on later comments they are cordial and even admit their own misunderstanding.

What am I missing? Where does “called him suspicious as fuck” come from?

Edit: Answered below (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49754311). Thank you.

OOTL, could you give a link to a relevant @dang post?

I’ve posted a follow up somewhere else in this thread about how I can retroactively see why some people would read rudeness in my comment. Even though this isn’t intended, I agree I need better choice of words

What I didn’t understand when expressing confusion with the responses, and still don’t, is the personal nature of the response. It wasn’t pushing back against anything I said really, moreso it tried to bring up the credentials of the speaker; and, I guess this feels a nonsequitr

Like, if I say “I have these problems with thing X”, it doesn’t really matter who made X. Sure, it’s context I didn’t have and there is something to be gained in saying it; but, it doesn’t really change any of the critiques I had. Appealing to the authority of the creator doesn’t engage with nearly everything I said

I don't think it was reasonable to call other poster a bully academic in need of a therapist. Calling the project vibecoded (perj.) and sus is very mild compared to what Reviewer #2 would have to say.

I agree with the other poster that is was very suspicious initially (sus af is not how I would put it, that sounds like a generational term) the author nuked their commit history while simultaneously pointing to a (Fable-written) paper which referenced the commit history in benchmarks. Then they seemingly had no understanding of why that's trust-breaking.

So to me, it sounds like the author didn't even read the paper they wrote, because otherwise they'd have remembered referencing the commit history, and wouldn't be asking us why we'd even care about it. “They” told us care! I'm glad they restored it but apparently that wouldn't have happened without the criticism.

Yeah, reading it again it sounds far bitchier than initially intended. Thanks for the response

I was writing the comment very stream of consciousness and not really think about how it may come across

If I were trying to boil down what I’m attempting to communicate, it would be 1. The project seems cool, but it’s also making some very strong claims that I’m hesitant to accept

2. The coolness of the thing is undermined by the presentation of it. It comes across as putting the cart is put before the horse, and the overly strong claims and marketing speak read as trying to rhetorically sway the audience rather than engage with them technically.

3. I genuinely am happy that the creator made this, but modulo the above worries I think it should be reeled in a bit. In part because of the concerns I have about the content, and further because it is the kind of language that I expect others to have a strong averse reaction to. Possibly to the point of also reaching the top of HN with their negative response

To a friend, it might be easy to capture some of this message with “you sounds sus af”, but to a stranger in the internet I see how I just sound like a jerk. Words do matter, and I think I’ll be more careful about this in the future

Do you have examples of sites that you prefer that achieve this, or have a relatively high signal to noise ratio that also have a high volume of discussion? (preferrably not an individual's blog + comment section)

I am relatively new to the site, and I guess I’m just surprised by this. I thought the dweebs here would mostly care about the technical content

But I guess I totally ignored the YC context in that interpretation