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coldpie a day ago

We had a glimpse of that antitrust future on the horizon with the previous admin. This spooked all the big tech weirdos so much that they put their weight behind the other guy and, well, they won. Antitrust is dead for another generation. Yay.

bogzz a day ago | parent | next [-]

Lina Khan is lying in wait.

omnimus a day ago | parent | next [-]

Doing great work in New York actually.

tenuousemphasis a day ago | parent | prev [-]

She'd have some teeth with President AOC.

avazhi a day ago | parent [-]

I actually laughed. Thank you.

glenstein a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I couldn't agree more with your point. But also, precisely because I agree with you, I'm flashing back to Proton CEO Andy Yen claiming that Trump would be great on tech anti trust and an improvement on what came before, which was ridiculous from the moment he said it but symptomatic of a certain kind of tech bro mindset.

shevy-java a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Well, the current cronies that run the USA may seem to have won for the time being, but sooner or later the population in the USA will realise how much fudged up the orange clown is. Only about 30% approval rating - that will continue to dwindle.

dhosek a day ago | parent | next [-]

There’s a partisan floor¹ that’s in the neighborhood of 25–30% where people will vote for their party no matter what. The 2004 Illinois Senate election was a good test case where when the Republican nominee went down in self-inflicted flames and was hurriedly replaced with Alan Keyes, who had no in-state constituency and, being Black (which, no doubt was the cynical reason for his recruitment), eliminated the racist choice. He gained a mere 27% of the vote which is likely the floor for a major party candidate in a contested broad-population election (smaller-level partisan elections, whether for single congressional seats or in small states, generally have demographically skewed populations which can result in wider margins).

1. Although as I think about it, this may only be valid on the right side of the spectrum given the data points.

rrrrrrrrrrrryan 3 hours ago | parent [-]

We're obviously long past the days when people's politics could be mapped on a nice normal distribution, with some outliers at either end and a big group of moderates in the middle who vote differently depending on the election. Today the distribution is not only bimodal: there's almost no overlap at all.

Your politics are part of your identity now. It's part of how you define who you are, and according to the research, over 95% of people are completely entrenched and will never vote for any candidate from the "other" party. (This the highest since right before the Civil War.)

That said, while nobody's changing sides any time soon, people _do_ stay home on election day, and we're going to see that next election.

The races for the next couple decades will be won by the candidates and the parties who can drill up enough enthusiasm from their base. Preach to the choir so the choir sings, etc.

ndiddy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The Democrats already tried out the idea that Trumpism would blow over and everything would go back to "normal" with Biden's 2020 campaign, but it didn't really turn out that way. Right-wing reactionary politics has been overrepresented in the US since its founding due to state based representation, and I expect that this will continue to be the case for as long as the US exists in its current form.

godshatter 11 hours ago | parent [-]

It would help if they actually ran a candidate that leaned more moderate than extreme. They seem to choose candidates specifically to rile up the Republican base. That makes sense if this is actually a football rivalry or something but if they want to get elected they need to appeal to the middle, which doesn't seem (at least from my perspective) to happen very often.

NoGravitas 10 hours ago | parent [-]

Biden and Harris were both centrist choices. Harris specifically campaigned with never-Trump Republicans by her side. It didn't matter. Republican campaign ads and their captive media ecosystem portrayed them as radical leftists.

thrance a day ago | parent | prev [-]

They'll immediately fall for the next such guy. Republican voters aren't actually reconsidering their views. Corporations and oligarchs have known no major blowbacks in decades and keep winning on every front, further eroding the Republic and its institutions little by little. And they won't stop until all that's left of America is an empty shell, a dead state like Russia, a sandbox for the Epstein class.

dylan604 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I hope we get to the Idiocracy timeline before the one you describe

breadloser a day ago | parent | next [-]

I still say the [Waldo](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Waldo_Moment) timeline fits closer. Just a bunch of empty signifiers stuffed into a costume.

WeAreCooked a day ago | parent | prev [-]

We are there now.

Nobody is working on solving death/aging.

You have to pay rent, go to work, companies have average Joe’s shilling for them.

The entire society is death marching toward - well - death! And nobody notices or cares in the slightest.

The vast majority of people think they will live for all of eternity “in heaven” and many others just don’t even think about it.

The shortness and pointlessness of their lives doesn’t even cross their minds - worse - they think the point is feelings!

And so it’s a war of who can have the best feelings for ~80 years and that’s it.

Doesn’t get any more idiotic than present day wealth inequality and total lack and void of real intellectual pursuits

lotsofpulp a day ago | parent [-]

What does solving death/aging mean?

Humans have figured out an easy medicine to reduce weight, which is the number 1 causal factor in morbidity/mortality.

There are also novel cancer immunotherapy medicines that are drastically increasing quality and quantity of life for cancer patients, like keytruda and blinatumomab.

joquarky 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> immunotherapy medicines that are drastically increasing quality and quantity of life for cancer patients

For wealthy cancer patients.

lotsofpulp 7 hours ago | parent [-]

It should be available to most Americans, via Medicaid/Medicare/Insurance.

I imagine it is available most Europeans/Canadians/Australians/etc too.

I guess they are wealthy though compared to the billions of people in poorer countries.

cannonpalms a day ago | parent | prev [-]

You are painting with extremely broad strokes here.

thrance 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Do you want me to expand on part of it?

throwawaysleep a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Painters with broad strokes have done extremely well the past few decades.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If only the DNC was interested in promoting candidates that work for the people and aren't just interested in lip service while mostly maintaining the status quo. Things could have been different. Imagine what 8 years of Bernie and a functioning Congress might have accomplished.

andrewflnr a day ago | parent | next [-]

That "functioning Congress" requirement is doing a lot of the work in that claim, and no single election result would make that happen.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

I didn't make that claim, you misread what I said. I explicitly mentioned a functioning Congress because that's a necessity, a functioning executive branch is not enough. We are in agreement.

andrewflnr a day ago | parent [-]

We're in agreement, so what did I misread? :D The point is, there's not some realistic, single-point "if only" scenario where "things could have been different", because the problem is largely Congress.

mafuy 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You misread/missed "Imagine".

andrewflnr 9 hours ago | parent [-]

No. The "imagine" is only an elaboration on the (rather more definite) "things could have been different" claim, which I already contend is a fantasy. I mean, sure, I could also "imagine" a world where America throws out its corrupt and/or stupid politicians all at once and replaces them with sensible people, but it would be of similar plausibility and utility.

soulofmischief 8 hours ago | parent [-]

It's called a hypothetical, not a fantasy, and it is a device used to ground the discussion by giving us a baseline for comparison. I don't think this is a very useful discussion if we're going to talk past each other and not assume the best possible interpretation of each other's words.

andrewflnr 8 hours ago | parent [-]

I know what a hypothetical is. An utterly unrealistic hypothetical is more distracting than grounding.

I don't think we're exactly talking past each other. I think the problem is that you've misdiagnosed the problem as, like you said in another comment, "a malfunctioning executive branch", and don't realize the full scale of Congress's culpability. I honestly thought you would know what I was talking about regarding the feasibility of a "functioning Congress", but you apparently just think that's an important but trivial detail to mention. Woops.

Almost all the major problems either stem from or could at least be mitigated by Congress doing its job. This became very clear on the micro level when I worked in the federal government, but as far as I can tell it's true at all scales. Here's a macro example: a functioning Congress would have removed Trump many times over.

coldpie a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Agreed. But on the topic of antitrust specifically, Lina Khan was absolutely doing the work, and Biden 100% deserves credit for appointing her. He could've chosen some do-nothing loser like everyone before him did, but he chose Khan.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

I agree, it was a great move.

However, it's generally hard for me to give Biden much credit for anything, however, given his own and his party's general complicity with decades of genocide and apartheid in Palestine. Same for Harris.

That and oversight of many more atrocities also carried forth by his predecessors really puts a damper on any good deed and make it hard to buy into any narrative of authenticity when it comes to politics that benefit human beings.

I also generally think Bernie would have played hardball on antitrust and given what we got with Biden, I'd prefer to have seen what Bernie could have done with the time.

dexterdog a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You had me until Bernie

soulofmischief a day ago | parent [-]

Which candidate would you have preferred?

SR2Z a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Terrible narrative. Lina Khan under Biden was more than willing to go after big companies. She was forced out because the American people voted Trump into office.

Eight years of Sanders would have left us with a far more gridlocked country. The man has virtually no political talent.

handedness a day ago | parent | next [-]

Some argue gridlock is a feature, not a bug. I'm of two minds about it, but I understand the appeal.

soulofmischief a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love Lina Khan as much as the next guy. But as you've already pointed out, it's kind of pointless if the fundamental problem is a malfunctioning executive branch (and a federal government with far too much power). But I'm going to need receipts on your claims about eight years of Sanders.

SR2Z 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I can't prove a negative but consider that winning the Democratic primary requires convincing a bunch of left-of-center voters to support your plan.

Sanders couldn't do that. How do you think he would have fared with Republicans?

He's never passed a significant bill of his own and focuses on renaming post offices.

The man has no political skill. As president he would have been a disaster.

soulofmischief 8 hours ago | parent [-]

> The man has no political skill

This is what I take issue with. It's a heavy enough accusation that it needs receipts. It needs proper framing on why exactly the benchmarks you've listed are important for delineating political skill and why other benchmarks are not.

Computer0 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>The man has virtually no political talent.

More unique individual people donated to his primary efforts than any other candidate in history. Wouldn't this be indicative of some large amount of political talent?

dylan604 a day ago | parent [-]

I think people grossly underestimate "money is speech" that is spent by corporate interests. PACs and SuperPACs are something I've just never understood how their donations are not just bribes

dexterdog 12 hours ago | parent [-]

That is precisely what they are

lII1lIlI11ll 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> Imagine 8 years of Bernie

As a person who was born in the Soviet Union I can easily imagine that...

joquarky 9 hours ago | parent [-]

Hyperbolic.

noosphr a day ago | parent | prev [-]

We wouldn't be in this mess is Obama wasn't sleep at the wheel. When it's been 20 years with a 10 to 10 split its not a democrat vs republican issue.