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elevation 2 days ago

I'm glad to see UBNT in this space.

I've always used ZFS because it's vastly superior to other options. When I see storage companies building without fault tolerance, or without a merkle tree (so that you can backup deltas efficiently without having to recompute them) it's a sign their marketing team has more influence over the company than their engineers.

Sadly, the few ZFS COTS options have been somewhat underpowered. QNAP supports ZFS filesystems, but their backup configuration won't let you arrange for a nas to pull from the source (instead of the source doing a push.) You can still pull it off by scheduling your own cron job, but this somewhat defeats the purpose of paying extra for a vendor solution.

UBNT is still supporting my 15 year old edgerouters with security updates, and their interface is clean and usable for anyone with basic network experience. And their video surveillance solutions are unusual in that they allow you to keep your footage entirely onsite and offline, an uncommon level of privacy. If they can bring the same polish to their storage solutions, I'll be using these new products for a long time.

throwaway240403 a day ago | parent | next [-]

QNAP unforgivably uses a proprietary version of ZFS with their own extensions that are not compatible with mainline OpenZFS. It can only zfs send/receive to other QNAP devices. While your data is protected like any other ZFS system, it is _NOT_ interoperable. You can not take a zpool out of a QNAP system and access it on another system with ZFS. I discovered this painfully the hard way, and won't buy from them again, unless I plan to wipe the software and run something open.

scheme271 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I think the ZFS changes were due to needing a way to allow qnap systems to expand zfs pools. The raidz expansion features in openzfs probably took too long for qnap to wait.

infogulch a day ago | parent | next [-]

OpenZFS released the zpool expansion as stable last year. Hopefully QNAP is charting a path to allow their users to migrate from their fork to OpenZFS, though of course these kinds of things take time to develop. I would be really worried if they are diverging further from OpenZFS rather than converging.

rincebrain a day ago | parent | next [-]

Last I looked at their releases of code, they had branched from ZFS before it became OpenZFS, and had a lot of proprietary extensions beyond just the reshaping (from memory, they implemented encryption differently, as one example, and I think they had one or two checksums that I assume were because something they shipped had hardware support for it?) so I wouldn't hold out hope that their goal is to rebase on OpenZFS unless they announce something to that effect.

scheme271 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Nah, I doubt they're going to rebase to openzfs. There's too much divergence and I don't see them putting the time to write something that converts their zfs format to openzfs without an extremely good reason.-

infogulch 18 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Ah so the fork is permanent. How unfortunate, guess I need to avoid QNAP software entirely.

close04 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> Hopefully QNAP is charting a path to allow their users to migrate from their fork to OpenZFS

This kind of migration is the stuff of nightmares. The main job of a NAS is to keep the data safe. A file system migration that works in every one of those corner cases present in the wild is statistically unlikely. The kind of bad publicity this can bring is what can sink a company. The only way I'd ever do this is by starting fresh on different storage and replicating the data.

BoingBoomTschak a day ago | parent | prev [-]

I'll be snide and say it: "OpenZFS" and "stable" rarely belong in the same sentence (even though they seem to have a true 2.2 LTS these days).

tw04 15 hours ago | parent [-]

There’s literally thousands of petabytes running on it in the wild, and it has continually proven to be one of, if not the most reliable filesystem, on the planet.

Joe blow running a beta release on his raspberry pi complaining about ram usage isn’t indicative of reality.

lazide a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Amusingly, most of my old qnap hardware ran Ubuntu pretty well

sussexby 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The same is true for our AI processing on the cameras. This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

dmoose 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> This is entirely local and private. You can even air gap the UniFi Protect system from the Internet and it'll operate fine.

One week ago 3 guys broke into my shop while I was traveling. They had sense enough to power down the starlink that was providing internet which would have taken out all of the remote camera options.

They did not realize that almost everything they were doing was being recorded via the unifi system. In the end about the only thing of value left in the building was the hard drive with all of their pictures on it.

The police have used the footage to identify all of them and it will be pretty open and shut when they see a court room. Offline and air gapped the whole time they were there but did exactly what it was installed to do.

electriclove a day ago | parent | next [-]

How did you hide it so that the thieves didn't find it?

dmoose a day ago | parent | next [-]

A 7U cabinet in an overhead space that is difficult to access. Installation and configuration were a bit of a headache but ended up being worth it. There was a NAS in the office and they stripped 7 drives, sleds and all, out of it.

I'm guessing with such an obvious endpoint for the camera storage it never occurred to anyone there was a second box. I had something like this in mind when I wired the building. It seemed like a good idea to make onsite security footage much harder to find given the cameras were obvious and anyone breaking in would probably look to damage or destroy the system.

I really thought the cameras themselves were the deterrent, but these guys gave it a shot anyway. Cutting the cable to the starlink and walking off with the NAS drives seemed to be the plan.

In the future I'm going to add a local battery backed alarm connected to external siren and strobe that is immediate on opening the office door to draw attention. I was driving down to WWDC when the starlink went offline and saw the notice on my phone but wrote it off to equipment failure which gave them enough time to clean the place out pretty well.

The hole in my strategy was thinking nothing could happen without notification, but being in a car in the middle of Norther CA with spotty cell coverage and lots of distractions blew that up pretty hard. I'm also thinking one of ubiquiti's cellular backups is in my future. Starlink offline is annoying but not the attention grabber that a still of a guy walking in the door would have been. Cellular backup would have gotten me that.

ssl-3 a day ago | parent | next [-]

I've read through your story and I think you're on the right track with what you're doing.

But, re: alarms, I'd like to add a suggestion: Indoor sirens. They can be intolerably, painfully loud for not very much money (because piezos are cheap and square waves are easy). Using a small, random mixture of them can let them beat at different frequencies and periods, which can make them very unpleasant to behold even with hearing protection.

If you feel like being clever, you can even run them with a local battery that activates when they're disconnected. If you feel like being extra-clever, you can make them activate when they don't have the correct termination resistance at the far end of the line, or exactly the correct voltage: This way, whether the wire goes open or short, the sirens activate.

Super-extra bonus points for using a combination of methods. Any time that a thief spends figuring this out is time they aren't carrying stuff out.

And if that still seems incomplete, then: Fill the shop with smoke. They can't function when they can't even see their hand in front of their face. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RPgcysyFUiI

velcrovan 17 hours ago | parent [-]

This seems like a good set of ideas if you can guarantee that you'll never have false alarms. I've had too many birds in warehouses and employees forgetting their codes to feel comfortable going full-hell-interior on alarm.

ssl-3 15 hours ago | parent [-]

Birds? Yeah, perhaps. We didn't have any trouble with false alarms that I recall at one shop I worked at with a (relatively small, alarmed) warehouse space where the overhead door was usually open during warm days. I can see it happening, but the false alarms would happen regardless of the intensity of interior alarms.

And the system should not be armed when desirable people are inside, so that problem seems like it is for the birds.

When employees forget their codes and trip the alarm when they're the first ones into the shop at whatever time, they can just go outside to escape the hellish indoor torment. Not perfect, but not so bad either when the goal is to keep people out. :)

Perhaps the smoke should have a harder trigger than the noise, though, if for no other reason than it's a consumable that eventually needs to be fed more money every time it is activated.

multjoy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have found that the fog generating alarm systems are the ones that will stop burglars in their tracks.

If they can't see, they're not going to hang about and if they've tooled up with NV then that's a whole different threat model.

bombcar a day ago | parent | next [-]

You need to add the dobermans - the old fog&dog gets 'em every time.

kraquepype a day ago | parent [-]

A wooden battering ram from the ceiling does wonders.

The fog&dog&log never fails.

bombcar a day ago | parent | next [-]

That would legitimately be horrifying - you break in somewhere, suddenly all is dark and fog spreads everywhere, then the growling begins and then you're Ewok'd from behind by a tree.

kraquepype a day ago | parent [-]

A series of booby traps based on a phonetic pattern would be hilarious.

fog, dog, log, jog, hog, bog, pog, nog

Enveloping fog

Dogs and wild pigs set loose

Log launches at you off a treadmill

Trap door drops you into a flooded basement

Barrage of paper disks

Eggnog super soakers

bombcar 21 hours ago | parent [-]

We've the plot for the next Home Alone - Kevin McCallister is now grown up trying to develop a home security company ...

sneak a day ago | parent | prev [-]

And afterwards, you can call Brick Top and feed ‘em to the pigs.

TacticalCoder a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> I have found that the fog generating alarm systems are the ones that will stop burglars in their tracks.

We have one of those at our vacation home (well it's more than a vacation home: I used to live there but it's now house we use for vacation, several times a year but anyways...).

We've got that system connected to the alarm. It's amazing and the system did evolve: in the early days the fog had to be projected in the middle of the room or it'd leave traces on the walls. Now it's a fog that doesn't leave any trace anymore.

The reason it works so well it's that it means: "Now you cannot see jack shit and in a few minutes the police is going to be there".

It kicked in once: the bad people quickly left.

> If they can't see, they're not going to hang about ...

No indeed...

> and if they've tooled up with NV then that's a whole different threat model.

In my case the alarm is still there and if the company monitoring the alarm system tells the police "there are people dressed up like it's war with night-vision system", then they'll take it even more seriously.

I've had a house without my alarm on (because kid had a medical emergency and was between life and death: I left in a hurry and forgot to turn the alarm on) visited by burglars and it ain't a fun thing.

I highly recommend alarm systems that generate a fog. It's a wonderful thing.

And that fog doesn't last too long: by the time your back at your home, it's like the would-be-thieves: gone.

Geezus_42 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

NV isn't going to do anything to help with a thick fog. Honestly, with a thick enough white fog, ultra bright flood lights might be the move. Cause a white out basically.

simondotau a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Better still, fill the room with the same scent they add to town gas. Anyone with an ounce of self preservation will get out of the building VERY FAST.

attila-lendvai a day ago | parent [-]

heh, i'm afraid that smell will linger on longer than you want to try in a building used as living quarters... :)

simondotau 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It’d be fine. The smell of victory.

gottorf 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Cutting Starlink and stripping drives from a NAS? This seems like a pretty sophisticated operation, much more so than the usual copper thieves and the like. Do you have reason to believe your shop was specifically targeted?

thejazzman a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd be alarmed that they seemed to know you were going to WWDC. Like, they were tech-aware if they took the drives while you went to tech event... how did they know any of this / scout you?

polnurfer a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have a few pit bulls and a Doberman.

naturalmovement a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> In the future I'm going to add a local battery backed alarm

Wait, you have an office full of expensive equipment but decided to half-ass DIY the security? No wonder you were targeted.

A proper monitored alarm system would have prevented this. They pretty much all have built-in cellular backup now. Do yourself a favor next time and call a professional.

Don't blow your entire budget on cameras then wonder if you need an alarm system because the only good the cameras will serve is to watch your stuff disappear. You mentioned California so expect these guys to be roaming free in short order if they see any jail time at all. Good luck with seeing any restitution or getting your stuff back.

dmoose a day ago | parent [-]

You'd think. However, this is a rural area with a sheriffs department that has budget constraints. I know of 2 shops with monitored alarm systems that were successfully robbed over the last 5 years because by the time anyone followed up they were gone.

Your statement that "a proper monitored alarm system would have prevented this" is optimistic. I never had any particular expectation that if somewhat intelligent criminals decided to break in when no one was there that I wasn't going to lose whatever they could get at. The cameras let me document what happened and when and what was taken. If the imagery ends up having any other value that's a bonus rather than the point.

naturalmovement a day ago | parent [-]

Yes sheriff's dept response times can be terrible. But someone could have been there a lot sooner, and it does put pressure on the perpetrators. I would suggest trying to find out why you were targeted, if the establishment was cased beforehand, etc. These crimes are not usually random.

lazide a day ago | parent [-]

Good luck figuring that out.

Chances are, the thieves were monitoring the local dispatch over the radio (rural departments are not usually doing anything fancy) and knew exactly how long they had.

iluvcommunism a day ago | parent | prev [-]

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close04 a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Any video surveillance system is foiled by a simple mask. Thieves who know to plan a break-in when you're away usually do their homework and come prepared.

throw0101c 19 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Any video surveillance system is foiled by a simple mask.

Do not under-estimate the number of thieves on the left-hand side of the bell curve: if you can deal with those that's half the population that's less of a problem.

(The thieves on the right-hand side of the bell curve generally work on Wall Street and generally don't do break-and-enters.)

runjake a day ago | parent | prev [-]

This is why I think someone should market a cheap SIGINT tool that collects BT/BTLE/Wi-Fi data from nearby devices.

I've got this setup running on a Raspberry Pi near my front door and it collects all sorts of useful data, even from people walking by on the sidewalk, 30 feet and two walls away.

At some point, I'd love to explore vehicle emissions more, too.

beagle3 16 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Modern OSes randomize WiFi MAC addresses unless you ask them not to, and also do some randomization on BT MAC address.

mar_buffalo 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've worked on something to do this, it' not perfect. It listens for 24 hours, learns what is 'normal'. Calibrates strength of signal (dogwalker on sidewalk, ignore) getting closer than that, between 10pm and 5am, turn on a light or two. Not meaning to spam, but it's at wispyalert.com . Any thoughts, I'd be interested to hear.

ghostly_s a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No prosecutor is going to waste their time trying to convict someone based on metadata. Even video is often insufficient for a conviction.

Terretta a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Funny enough a router collecting this data near a busy enough highway can bog itself down by collecting unique Wi-Fi identifiers from all the passing cars' networks, not to mention all the hotspots on passing commuter trains.

It never occurs to router makers a static base could see a million Wi-Fi networks come and go every week.

Geezus_42 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So the radio equivalent of Flock cameras...

naturalmovement a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Uh hello police department?

I have MAC addresses!

M-A-C...

Yes, I sniff them out the air with equipment I built!

Uh no I'm not on drugs why do you ask?

MrDrMcCoy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I am unable to accept that it is fully local, since you have to bind your network to their cloud just to accept the EULA. [0] I have 0% trust that a subsequent unbind truly severs the link, because this is such a shady thing to require in the first place.

[0] https://community.ui.com/questions/e3d50641-5c00-4607-9723-4...

varenc a day ago | parent | next [-]

I'm surprised this is required. Agreed that's shady. I wonder what their reasoning is.

But if you don't trust it, the fix is easy: just deny the Ubiquiti cameras and controller all internet access. That way no trust is required.

mcculley a day ago | parent [-]

But what if I want to access my cameras remotely but not have their manufacturer access them?

avianlyric a day ago | parent [-]

VPN. You can even use the Wireguard VPN that all Ubiquiti routers have built in

ragall 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

So once you accept the EULA, it's fully local. What's your problem with that ?

MrDrMcCoy 13 hours ago | parent [-]

The problem I have is that the Ubiquiti camera and Dream Machine I bought were sold to me as something whose features work fully offline and that I would not have to grant any 3rd-party access to my network. I refuse to grant such access for any length of time, and cannot trust that the access will be fully revoked thereafter because Ubiquity already broke that trust by demanding access to my devices when they advertised otherwise.

radicalbyte a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I've been so impressed with Ubiquiti that I've decided to target FreeBSD for my current side project. Their camera system is wonderful. Their DreamMachine is a massive upgrade for my home network. Their APs are rock solid, no hassle, just work, and it integrates so well. I have my work / home on different subnets. I have the kids on a different subnet and behind a firewall providing some protection against ads.

Very happy customer here.

giobox 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Their camera system isnt awful, but I would still pick Frigate over it (I have the option for both at home and have ran each). Frigate is nice in that it works with any old RTSP IP camera - many features in Unifi's NVR support only work with their own over-priced cameras. High quality PoE cameras are extremely cheap nowadays. If you connect a non-Ubiquiti branded RTSP cam to their NVR software you lose a ton of features.

> https://frigate.video/

ksec a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>I've been so impressed with Ubiquiti that I've decided to target FreeBSD for my current side project.

As much as I wish Ubnt are using BSD in their product, which they are not. I am understanding how FreeBSD relates here.

pacija a day ago | parent | next [-]

There's a port of Unifi network controller for both FreeBSD and OpenBSD.

https://www.freshports.org/net-mgmt/unifi10/

https://ports.to/path/net/unifi/main.html

I guess not officially supported but I use them, they work well.

psd1 a day ago | parent [-]

Interesting - but I just run it in docker. I also run opnsense, which is a FreeBSD, and I find it very high friction.

pacija a day ago | parent [-]

Long time ago I used these BSD-based appliances such as opnsense, beleiving I'll have it easier with their web interfaces than with editing config files in vi.

In the long run, after investing some time into learning actual BSDs I find editing a few config files much more convenient than clicking around in web interfaces.

OpenBSD is great for a router.

https://www.openbsd.org/faq/pf/example1.html

gottorf 18 hours ago | parent [-]

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radicalbyte a day ago | parent | prev [-]

An assumption, I made. Failed, it was.

br0ceph a day ago | parent [-]

I always advise ppl against ubiquiti devices. They are not open at all, its yet another proprietary router/switch/wifi/nas/etc

radicalbyte 14 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Keeping Linux-based devices up and running and somewhat reliable is horrible. I'm 45, I've spent 25 years doing that. Time I'll never get back. Time I'm spending with my kids instead of dicking around with an obscure bug caused by some random dude who is spending his free time doing thankless work maintaining some C code he wrote 40 years ago.

lostapathy a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

So what do you actually recommend?

psd1 a day ago | parent [-]

I like unifi despite the appliance feel. I recommend using the kit that works fire you, but avoiding the temptation to stick everything in a single pane of glass. Use the wifi, don't also cram your routing and switching and firewalling into the same vendor relationship.

It's like being apple-everything. Freedom until you bump into the walls of your cell.

Unifi APs are a sweet spot of price/performance, and I have no difficulty recommending them. Ruckus hardware is better at five times the price.

UISP gear has worked very very well for me for ptp and ptmp. But that's a completely different line.

ragall 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> They are not open at all

So what ? It's not possible to be reliable, open and have many features.

johne20 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any way to get Protect iOS notifications if using local mode only? Eg, using local local login but away from home.

ssl-3 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The processing can happen within the camera, and it's nice when it does...but that doesn't mean that the only other option is something cloud-based, like some might assume.

Open-source NVR software like Frigate can do things like the object-detection/license plate/face recognition game on local hardware, with the cheapest available IP cameras. It's just a program that runs on a computer with a network and some storage and some processing ability like a GPU.

Those cheap cameras don't have to be trusted; with things like VLANs, they can hang out on the Group W bench where they have no access to anything important or the outside world. :)

(But yeah, it does represent much more of a DIY effort than something from UBNT does.)

throwaway219450 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do like the onboard AI, and it works well for entity detection (like people). We haven't found the face detection to be very reliable in outdoor security applications. There doesn't seem to be a way to correct/combine classes if someone's detected as multiple individuals on different occasions, so we end up with the same person detected as 5 "unknown"s. This is not a hard problem to solve. You'd just allow embedding matching to different face groups, but it's annoying as a user.

ahknight 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Now if only Ubiquiti could solve the problem where everything is always out of stock.

jonah a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hey, why can't I get full-resolution 4k snapshots off my G5 Pro bullet?

eptcyka 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can I use it without running some inane management VM?

jon-wood 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Unifi gateways run the management software now, typically they'll also be your networks router and so something you'll need to buy anyway, but if you just want to use the security/wifi elements then you can either run it in a container or if you're really determined not to run a container and not to buy a router there's the CloudKey.

lostlogin 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The UDM runs mine, but prior to that I ran a Docker container with it. It worked well.

https://hub.docker.com/r/linuxserver/unifi-controller

_rs a day ago | parent [-]

You can't run UniFi Protect like this, only the network controller

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Avicebron 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Genuine question, if you're running unifi, why don't you want the management vm? Synology makes a decent NAS without the controller.

InTheArena 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Synology hardware stopped being decent a while ago.

pinewurst 2 days ago | parent [-]

Plus their drive type restrictions which are poison in a cost-sensitive NAS.

(Seemingly rolled back recently, but a roll back can be easily rolled back itself. I don't trust them enough to count on that not happening.)

eptcyka 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I like the hardware, cannot stand needing to run another machine just for management.

linohh 2 days ago | parent [-]

If you get one of the Cloud devices, you won't need to, as they bring their own.

infecto 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The cost is just insane though. $4-$500 for a camera that I can get equivalent specs for $50-100.

9x39 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

With face detection? License plates? Tamper protection?

I'm guessing you're thinking Reolink or other Chinese ultra-commodity cam. It's fine, it's just in a different product class and ecosystem - and that's where enterprises fit in, they want that support+ecosystem and not DIYing.

Reolink CX820 8MP $129 https://reolink.com/product/cx820/

Unifi G6 8MP ~$300 https://techspecs.ui.com/unifi/physical-security/uvc-g6-dome...

Avigilon H6A 8MP ~$1200 https://www.avigilon.com/security-cameras/h6a-dome

Fnoord 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

> With face detection? License plates? Tamper protection?

I do that with my Unifi Protect doorbell. RTSP streams. Google Coral. Frigate. Scales very well. Do ML on low quality stream. Look/save the high quality stream. You do it all centralized, and you can put the camera(s) on a seperate VLAN. They don't even need internet access. If you run them over PoE twisted pair, the attacker would need physical access to perform MITM. Wireless, one should assume the camera is insecure (e.g. KRACK).

9x39 2 days ago | parent [-]

Wow, that's cool, learned something new today. Does that work better in your estimation than the UI Protect software?

The purpose of my comment had only been pointing out those features don't come onboard a $100 cam.

bri3d a day ago | parent | next [-]

(not the parent poster, but same setup): Is it better than UI Protect? No, but you can make it about the same.

I have the same popular setup (Frigate) although I just use ONNX on an 11th-gen Intel CPU instead of a Coral (unless you are trying to do something fundamentally goofy like use a Raspberry Pi as an NVR, Coral doesn't really perform better than even a several-generations-old iGPU or iNPU).

This is the typical OSS story: you can duct tape a giant leaning tower of janky stuff (Frigate + go2rtc + HomeAssistant + various connectors + some kind of VPN/proxy solution for away-from-home access) together and get something that's fairly close to the commercial solution, where you click a button. The open source solution is fun and more customizable in highly niche ways (you can bring your own image recognition models and tagging, adjust the resolution and encoding for everything in infinite detail, and so on) and the commercial solution is easy and works. Chose your path.

I will say I've liked the Frigate stack, though. I'm making some recognition tweaks for recognizing animals on my property, the software works well enough, and I do like having a really, truly on-prem solution for this specific thing.

Fnoord 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You already got a good reply, but I can maybe add n+1 and some details:

It works similar, but requires some effort to get working (if you already self-host its peanuts think Frigate plus reverse proxy and I also use Wireguard to have it available from outside). My home connection is fiber 1 gbit, but with DSL (only 30 mbit upload) it worked fine, too.

Since I want to decrease my reliance on US cloud, I like to self-host. I also still rely on Unifi APs and the doorbell. Right now I wouldn't spend money on building a self-hosted server, given prices.

I should mention I use iGPU via SR-IOV on a VM. The Google Coral sits in the device unused.

I also immediately copy the stream to an offsite backup. This way, if I get coerced to destroy my doorbell feed, I will happily oblige.

gerdesj a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I have rather a lot of Reolinks ... and Frigate on Home Assistant. The cameras are on a VLAN with rather minimal internet access (ie none) I make pool.ntp.org etc resolve to my own NTP servers too.

infecto 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

I never really thought of Ubiquity as enterprise always felt more of the premium small to mid sized business but I am sure some enterprises use them.

jon-wood 21 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They definitely started in the turnkey SME/consumer space, and still do a lot that's relevant there, but they've got a ton of very enterprise hardware targeted at large offices/campuses/stadiums and the like. There's APs specifically designed to be pointed at a sports or concert crowd and handle 1500+ active clients per access point at a time, and similarly specced switches and routers so that you can have TV crews turn up and hook into your network for live streaming.

9x39 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

The new enterprise NVRs work pretty well.

I think they're definitely not Avigilon, Genetec, Verkada, but we run a few hundred UI cams in some edge areas. It works, esp if you don't demand orchestration.

kube-system 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

IME those sub-$100 Chinese IP cameras have you at the mercy of whatever firmware they cut from the master branch the week they shipped it. People don't buy UI because they win on specs-per-dollar. They buy it because they win on results-per-dollar.

projektfu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They're not all $500, some are $150-300. Overall price comparable to Honeywell, but more than, say, Lorex.

windexh8er a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You've clearly not owned many IP cameras, especially not outdoor cameras that go through true seasonal weather. Now, I will say that the first generation of cameras from Ubiquiti were just OK everything after the 3rd generation has been very good overall.

As others have pointed out they are supported for a long time. I have some earlier generations cameras that are going on 7 years of updates. Not only are you barely getting maybe a year of firmware updates at the $50-100 range but there's no comparison on the quality of the optics, sensor and overall hardware at that price differential.

Ubiquiti has done some shitty things over the years but Ubiquiti isn't competing against the $50-100 market. They're competing against the Axis and Panasonic quality builds. You've definitely got it backwards here.

And while, yes, you can get a decent camera from Reolink and the like at a good price it isn't surrounded by an exceptionally mature and well supported ecosystem that has yet to nickel and dime its customers with half ass SaaS and paid for features.

This comment couldn't be further from the reality of Ubiquiti's lineup in comparison.

infecto 21 hours ago | parent [-]

I have run IP cameras outside for a decade plus. Whatever floats your boat

throwaway219450 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

All the basic G6 cameras are in the $200 range and have edge compute?

What's the comparison at $50-100?

sieabahlpark 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

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vladvasiliu 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> QNAP supports ZFS filesystems

Do they have ecc on those models? Do you have an example model on hand?

scheme271 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

ECC support depends on the processors that the NAS uses. A few of their NASes allow you to use ECC memory but you'd need to swap the memory installed to ECC memory. A lot of their systems use Intel cpus that don't support ECC at all so you need to carefully pick and choose.

throwaway240403 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't buy a QNAP if you care about real ZFS. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48593360

vladvasiliu a day ago | parent [-]

> You can not take a zpool out of a QNAP system and access it on another system with ZFS.

Too bad... I always wonder why companies do this...

jfim 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Some do. I got the TS-873A a few years back, it works. Their software is kind of weird, and I wouldn't connect it to their cloud offering, but it does work.

stavros 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

What's UBNT?

Daneel_ a day ago | parent | next [-]

Obviously it's the singular form of Ubuntu. Like, one "ubunt", two "ubuntu", etc.

NooneAtAll3 17 hours ago | parent [-]

one ubuntone, two ubuntwo

atombender 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Stock symbol for Ubquiti, the company being discussed.

kllrnohj 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

The stock symbol for Ubiquiti is actually UI, not UBNT. UBNT was the symbol for the old name that hasn't been used since 2019. I have no idea why changing the name also changed the stock symbol, but shrug

ssl-3 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

Thanks, I think. I usually write UBNT because it's distinct and spelling out "Ubiquiti" hurts my soul in ways that I find difficult to properly articulate.

But UI just seems so ambiguous. :)

dsr_ a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Shorter tickers are considered more valuable, because they are easier to say, type and remember.

A is for Agilent. C is for Citigroup. T for AT&T, the Telephone Company.

stavros 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Thanks. I wish people could just say the company name instead of using random aliases, but I guess it's some sort of cultural thing.

neogodless 19 hours ago | parent [-]

I think using "poorly known" initialisms is almost always a "I'm in the in group" signaling.

Or just making assumptions about what "everyone" knows. Either way it tends to be a net negative for a large percentage of the audience.

Whether the individuals writing care about the ignorant among the audience determines if they put any effort into being educational or just signaling.

atmosx 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Ubiquity Networks Inc.