| ▲ | 32GB of DDR5 now costs $375 – AI shortage continues to squeeze PC building(tomshardware.com) |
| 78 points by papersail 2 hours ago | 81 comments |
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| ▲ | Scene_Cast2 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is the PCPartPicker chart that I monitor: https://pcpartpicker.com/trends/price/memory/#ram.ddr5.5600.... - $900 for 2x32GB, used to be $200 a year ago. |
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| ▲ | ChiperSoft 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yesterday I did a price check on the PC I built two years ago. It went from $2300 to $3650. The bulk of that increase was that the ram went from $210 to $940. Its now more expensive than when DDR5 was new. | |
| ▲ | snkline an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The memory in the PC I put together early last year is now worth about three times the total cost of all the parts I used to build the thing. It is absolutely crazy. | |
| ▲ | fullstop an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I regret not building the PC when I was looking at it. It's not a money thing, at the end of the day, but I can't bring myself to do it. I had it all priced out, but a bunch of birthdays in my family were coming up and I felt like I shouldn't buy something for myself if it's really their time. My old laptop will have to cut it for a while. :-) |
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| ▲ | brnaftr361 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| GN did a documentary on the situation from the perspective of consumer-facing companies. Seems pretty dire for them, and it's hard to see the long-range consequences, but the idea of consumers being priced out isn't too far out, which to me is a little alarming. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zyQwAhppWj8 |
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| ▲ | axegon_ an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "The costs are negligible and justified when compared to all the benefits. If you look at the performance gains, the overall cost has in fact been reduced." - Altman, a.k.a. Dory from Finding Nemo and/or Dario, a.k.a. Carl from Jimmy Neutron. |
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| ▲ | fhdkweig an hour ago | parent [-] | | I haven't watched those movies in a while. Can I get an explanation on those a.k.a.s? | | |
| ▲ | z2 an hour ago | parent [-] | | I remember both, the former is positive but suffers from short-term memory loss. the latter is always afraid of things, and also seems to never learn. |
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| ▲ | whizzter 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| My bet is that the prices will crash once OpenAI (and/or Antrophic) IPO's have happened. Right now the biggest threat to their IPO's is that people realize that local models are good enough for whatever they're peddling, what's the most important factor to even running good enough models? RAM since you want the models in memory to not be total slogs. |
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| ▲ | Hamuko 25 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | My bet is that we're not gonna see any adjustments in RAM pricing until one of the planned data center projects collapses in a spectacular way. | | |
| ▲ | rvnx 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | One theory: they will need to throw away all these Nvidia cards in the trash at some point right ? Because what to do with power-consuming outdated hardware ? let's say 5 years from now ? They will need new RAM. I wonder. | |
| ▲ | sixothree 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | And honestly, we will have much bigger problems if that bubble pops in a spectacular fashion. |
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| ▲ | varispeed 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > that local models are good enough for whatever they're peddling they are not. Unless you are satisfied with plausible, but mostly garbage output. | | |
| ▲ | cogman10 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | They are actually quite a bit better than you might think. Qwen3.6 27B is pretty capable at coding. For non-coding work, they are more than good enough. A lot of the ways my non-technical family members have interacted with AI would be perfectly served by using a local model. After all, people were more than satisfied with the results from GPT 3. That has long since been surpassed by open weight models. | |
| ▲ | fluoridation 17 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Honestly, that's the output I get from non-local models, anyway. If I'm going to get plausible nonsense either way, I may as well run it on my own hardware. |
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| ▲ | usui an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I looked at my eBay receipt in 2023 and I paid $84.98 for a "Kingston FURY Beast 64GB (2x32GB) 3200MHz DDR4" listing and now the equivalent on eBay "Buy It Now" is $374.99 for "Kingston FURY Renegade 64GB (2x32GB) DDR4 RAM 3200MHz (KF432C16RBK2/64)". What a timeline it has become for consumer computing three years later. |
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| ▲ | qingcharles 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I was picking up DDR3 16GB sticks for $5/piece on eBay last year. The world has gone mad. | | |
| ▲ | seltzered_ 3 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | My anecdata: bought used DDR4 ECC 16gb ram sticks (i.e. serverpulled ram) for $11 off ebay last year (Jan 2025), now as of June 2026 the lowest listing I see is $42, most are around $50. | |
| ▲ | Hamuko 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | To be fair, DDR3 is still kinda cheap. It's really only DDR4 and DDR5 that are massively in demand. DDR3 is a bit too old for it to be in high demand by consumers. | | |
| ▲ | giantrobot 16 minutes ago | parent [-] | | While DDR3 is cheaper it's still tripled or quadrupled in price over the past two years. I just bought a pair or sticks for an old Mac Pro and it was 4x what i paid just a few years ago. |
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| ▲ | functionmouse 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm playing the newest games on ddr3 with a 2080 and a 4790k. It's a simple life. |
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| ▲ | voidUpdate 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | 2080? I'm still using a 1070. That thing rocks | |
| ▲ | stuxnet79 13 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Some might call this a boomer build but the 4790k is an absolute beast of a CPU and still holds up. | | |
| ▲ | arjie 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I recently booted up an old 4790k system and it was fine on Linux but on Windows it would nag me to update but apparently the CPU is too old for new Windows. I ended up giving it away on the Internet to whomever could pick up but afterwards it ended up with one of those reseller chaps. Ah well, I wish it had made to some kid somewhere. |
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| ▲ | deaton 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've got a 9 year old Xeon W and 64GB of DDR4. Its not as fast as some modern DDR5 stuff, but boy does it work | |
| ▲ | sixothree 21 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I played 100+ hours of RDR2 on a 2060 (non-super), as was the style at the time. When the 30 series came out, I sold that card for more than I paid for it. |
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| ▲ | icedchai 15 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Pretty insane. I built a Framework Desktop PC back in November. The motherboard (with 128G DDR5 RAM) was $1800. Now it's $2859. Almost 60% increase in 6 months. |
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| ▲ | alecsm an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Same thing with storage. I wanted to upgrade my SSD but prices are more than at the end of 2025. I refuse to pay 500 euro for a 4TB SSD. I rather go outside and play with my bike like when I was 5. |
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| ▲ | deltoidmaximus an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| AMD just brought the popular 5800X3D back out of retirement to give people maintaining the DDR4 based platforms something to buy. Last I checked used DDR4 was half the price of used DDR5 after the prices of both shot up. |
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| ▲ | dijit 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Shame I have 2TiB of ECC DDR4 lying around :( Would be nice to be able to own property. | | |
| ▲ | arjie 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Better to get rid of that stuff now unless it’s fast. You can get used 2666 DDR4 for about $200/64 GiB stick. | |
| ▲ | Hamuko 22 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You can probably get a mansion in France for that. | |
| ▲ | varispeed 27 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | People used to mock "you'll own nothing" as conspiracy theory. |
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| ▲ | onli 28 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Nice, I missed that. The 5700X3D has been the smarter pick back then, it fits to the current latent user hostility of AMD to focus on the more expensive processor. | | |
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| ▲ | flr03 19 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Just looked for my order receipt out of curiosity, this was in Jan 23:
£160 for Kingston FURY Renegade 32GB (16GB x 2) 6000MT/s DDR5 CL32 DIMM Silver |
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| ▲ | SirFatty 25 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Not just AI, tariffs also affect price. |
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| ▲ | Fnoord 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| 250 EUR (that is with VAT for 2x16 GB DDR4 [1] seems like a fair price. [1] https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/1419292/corsair-vengeance-lp... |
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| ▲ | matheusmoreira 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Crazy... I hope this is temporary. If this is the new normal, we're all going to be priced out of computers eventually. |
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| ▲ | maztaim 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | If the industry had a say, we will be priced out. Look at the nvidia dgx spark. This is going to be the new norm if they have their way. |
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| ▲ | KronisLV 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Crazy, the other day I looked in my local store order history and say that I bought G.SKILL RipJaws V F4-3600C18D-32GVK, a DDR4 32 GB 3600 MHz kit of two sticks. I bought it for 82 EUR, before the whole ongoing situation. Now the same spec costs upwards of 290 EUR, about 3.5x the original price and even on Amazon the best prices I can find are upwards of like 210 EUR (2.5x). |
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| ▲ | tonyrice 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| At one point I remember DDR2 ECC coating like $150-$180 Looking at it from that frame, it seems reasonable. |
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| ▲ | doubled112 14 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Everything is relative. I thought 128MB of SDRAM was a good deal at $100. I also thought $479 for 32GB of DDR4 was nuts back in 2016/2017. |
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| ▲ | api 34 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| This is insane. Didn’t know how bad it got. I bought a mini PC a few years ago with 64 gigs in it for a home VM server for like $600 total. Looks like I’m keeping it a while. Usually these bottlenecks lead to a price crash later. Of course that’s also part of what fuels the bottleneck. Companies are afraid of over investing in production and being left with underwater capital later. |
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| ▲ | snarfy 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I am counting my blessings after updating my and my wife's gaming PCs right before all of this happened. |
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| ▲ | swiftcoder an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I bought 64GB of DDR4 in December of '24. Best timing-the-market of my life. |
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| ▲ | thijson an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Price should send a signal to manufacturers to build more capacity. I wonder if they will though, it takes quite a bit of time, and it's not certain that the demand will continue to exist once built. |
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| ▲ | wahern 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Several Chinese manufacturers are doing just that, and have already expanded production: https://techwireasia.com/2026/04/chinese-memory-chips-ymtc-c... But because of tech trade barriers their primary focus is on the domestic market and only secondarily global markets. | |
| ▲ | mgfist an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | A fab for high end memory costs $20B and 5 years to build. It will happen, but yeah it takes time and money | | |
| ▲ | danaris 2 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It will only happen if the bottom doesn't fall out of the market for AI datacenters in the next few months. | |
| ▲ | cute_boi 32 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sometime I wish China had capacity to manufacture RAM. They would build fab within 1 year.. | | |
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| ▲ | nemomarx an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So far haven't we seen the opposite? Consumer focused ram production shutting down to make more volume for server dimms or etc? | | |
| ▲ | fluoridation 23 minutes ago | parent [-] | | The bottleneck isn't the sticks, it's the chips. The chips are the same for consumer and server applications. What's been happening is that big companies have bought nearly all the wafer capacity for the next year or so, and perhaps some of that capacity has also been redirected from DDR5 to LPDDR5. If a stick manufacturer drops out of the consumer market that kinda doesn't matter, because manufacturing sticks is relatively low tech compared to manufacturing the memory chips. You can compare it to manufacturing video cards vs. manufacturing GPUs (as in the actual processing elements). |
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| ▲ | ecshafer 38 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Government needs to get out of the way. Micron announced a memory fab in Syracuse in 2023. It took 3 years, 20,000 pages of "environmental review", deals with the government on amount of union contracts during building, etc. for them to break ground in 2026 for a 2030 opening date. In any reasonable world, a 2023 announcement should have broke ground in 2023. | | |
| ▲ | otherme123 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | OTOH, a celulose factory near me, built in the 1950's, got their permits fast and with little regard to environment. FF three decades, and their entire surroundings are destoyed for everyone else. Trials go nowhere, because they have all authorizations needed (and a lot of political leverage because they are the main employer in the region). Careful fast-tracking business that have zero incentives to avoid externalization of costs. | |
| ▲ | Shitty-kitty 26 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Buddy they ain't building an ice-cream parlor. 200 miles of the Hudson river is a Superfund site. The biggest polluters, PCB's, lead and mercury. | | |
| ▲ | wahern 13 minutes ago | parent [-] | | And? The primary goal should be to catch and stop pollution, not make manufacturers spend years promising not to do something they're not allowed to do. If someone wants to build a factory that can't operate without illegal emissions, then so be it. It's their money lost. All that matters is that they don't actually pollute. Using red tape as some kind of prophylactic is ridiculous. If the state doesn't have the monitoring in place, you have to just trust the company, which is naive if not negligent. If you do have the monitoring, why require the extremely expensive song & dance? To protect corporations from negligently wasting money? Answer: because the song & dance is primarily about extracting concessions, like union labor or even cash (e.g. promises to pay to fix someone else's pollution, or contributions to various interest groups). The friction and expense involved in today's beaucratic development review process is many times more costly to all involved than the social benefit. |
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| ▲ | varispeed 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Why manufacturers would build more capacity to decrease the price (and profits)? This is similar situation to housing market. Prices are going up and supply is being restricted by whatever means. It will be a bit of Catch 22. |
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| ▲ | HumblyTossed 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| While back I recalled I had 16GB of DDR4 somewhere. I went and found it in an old bin box. It's now in my safe in case I need it for a machine. This is the stupidest freaking timeline... |
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| ▲ | tayo42 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Take your ram budget, buy micron stock, wait a few days, sell it and buy ram lol |
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| ▲ | ajsnigrutin an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "back in my time", a dialup and 32 megs(!) of ram was enough for most stuff, including internet browsing. I have no idea why a weather forecast site needs tens of megabytes of resources, and gig+ of ram for my browser, since i get no more info from it, than i did back then. Same for chat programs (how is discord different than irc? and why does it need so much ram to do so? same for slack), mail clients, etc. Maybe it's time to kick developers to start optimizing stuff a bit, since neither they nor the users can't afford "unlimited" ram anymore. edit: i'm not saying we need to get back to literally 32 megs of ram, just to make developers performance test their stuff on a laptop that was on sale 3 years ago in their local supermarket, i.e. stuff their users use at home. |
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| ▲ | epolanski 34 minutes ago | parent [-] | | People are building static websites with react/tailwind and pretending to be modern. Full of bugs and memory leaks. They will even tell you "it's not a static website", thinking that there were no other ways to add dynamic behavior other than using SPAs. And they are hiring MIT-bred Leetcode ninjas at 300k+ in most of these startups/big-techs. |
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| ▲ | Keyframe an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Can we just go back to pre-AI world? |
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| ▲ | whizzter 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It'll calm down once the Antrophic and/or OpenAI IPO's are done, no need to protect themselves from people running local models by buying everything once the bosses have gotten their money. | | |
| ▲ | pizza234 21 minutes ago | parent [-] | | OpenAI and Anthropic are certainly strong drivers, but there's a large demand from many other players: cloud provider, accelerator vendors, and so on. I think there's no end in sight. |
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| ▲ | z2 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This is textbook negative externalities, of the AI buildout on everyone who isn't using RAM/GPUs for AI, of the use of electricity and water on anyone who isn't using it for AI. The cynic in me thinks this will go down in history alongside asbestos, leaded gasoline/paint, and the opioid crisis. | | |
| ▲ | WarmWash 28 minutes ago | parent [-] | | People want this, the demand is there. Like clockwork, people naturally want to have their cake and to eat it too, so there will be the incessant complaining about the externalities. Half the people lack the brainpower to see the good and bad are intrinsically linked, and the other half just like complaining. But at least for now, both halves aren't pulling back (in fact it's increasing), and money, not complaining, steers the ship. | | |
| ▲ | deaton a few seconds ago | parent | next [-] | | Do they? | |
| ▲ | lionkor 18 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | > People want this, the demand is there. It's impossible to avoid using AI multiple times a day, just because it's forced into every product under the sun. That is NOT demand. None of those users WANT this. | | |
| ▲ | nerdjon 7 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | We can be cynics of AI without ignoring reality, if no one wanted this no one would be chatting with Claude or ChatGPT directly, but people obviously are. The fact is there are people that do in fact want this, and it isn't just CEO's hoping to cut jobs. | |
| ▲ | sixothree 6 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | You're wrong. There is demand. More and more people are exploring AI and getting real work done with it. |
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| ▲ | okokwhatever an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | Can we just go back to pre-{anything-here} world? | | |
| ▲ | dijit an hour ago | parent [-] | | gigabit internet and the death of flash for web video has been wonderful to be honest. There was a period in 2012-2016 when things were pretty nice. |
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| ▲ | Forgeties79 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Honestly that seems slightly down even if it’s still ridiculous. The ram I bought for $100 a year ago was $500 a couple of months ago. Could just be the particular sticks I got though |
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| ▲ | john_strinlai an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | $375 is the cheapest kit, and the price is using a promo code "Price tracking courtesy of PCPartPicker now reveals the cheapest 32GB DDR5 RAM you can buy is $375. Specifically, four XPOWER kits from Silicon Power will set you back $374.97 thanks to a promo code." | | | |
| ▲ | moomoo11 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | i have 128gb ddr4 from a few years ago. i think i paid like 300-400 for it. its paired to a 5950x so im sure it will be fine for a few more years |
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