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Artemis II crew take 'spectacular' image of Earth(bbc.com)
395 points by andsoitis 4 hours ago | 161 comments

https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/fd02_for-pao/

hannesfur 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Looking at the EXIF (with exiftool) for the image uploaded by NASA (https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/art002e00019...), apparently this was taken by a Nikon D5 with an AF-S Zoom-Nikkor 14-24mm f/2.8G ED and developed with Lightroom. It also seems like very little was done in Lightroom. Amazing... I dumped the whole EXIF here: https://gist.github.com/umgefahren/a6f555e6588a98adb74eed79d...

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Before Lightroom it might have looked closer to this: https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000193/art002e00...

hannesfur 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

From the EXIF we can infer that every setting was left at the default. No exposure comp, no contrast, no HSL, no lens correction and a linear tone curve. Just the default Adobe Color profile at 5400K.

deepsun an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But that one (art002e000193~large.jpg) is only 287kB. The Lightroom-processed one is 6.2MB. I would expect original to be heavier.

saint_yossarian 40 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The resolutions are different, 1920x1280 vs. 5568x3712.

Also possibly different JPEG quality settings.

Melatonic 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

Could be the thumbnail / preview image generated alongside the raw

porphyra an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The Lightroom one was processed from raw. Also, by brightening it a lot, the noisy high-ISO grain becomes more apparent. Noise is famously incompressible, so it leads to a much larger file size.

thfuran an hour ago | parent [-]

Brightening the image may make the iso noise easier to see, but it doesn't create it.

porphyra 6 minutes ago | parent [-]

Noise that's easier to see will not be compressed away by the JPEG compression. JPEG is basically just DCT + thresholding. Any higher amplitude noise is going to stay and increase the final file size.

Also, pulling more data from your 14 bit or 16 bit raws results in more noise in the end compared to the straight-out-of-camera 8 bit JPEGs.

divbzero 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

The photograph appears to show nightime on Earth with just a sliver of daytime. Beyond cities in Iberia and along the coast of Africa, most of what we can see would be reflected light from the Moon? We are just past full moon on April 1.

hparadiz an hour ago | parent | next [-]

1/4 exposure time so 250 ms of light. the light is coming from all the light sources in the universe, plus the moon, plus the sun's rays refracting through the atmosphere which happens even at night.

The natural blue light is coming from the oxygen in the atmosphere but it's so overwhelming in that spot that it turns the light pure white. The red/orangish is coming from particulates and the green/red from aurora. My favorite part I think is the very bottom where you can see the blue light taper off and not overwhelm the camera sensor and you can see the aurora with it. I love this photo so much.

Probably my favorite photo ever now.

tayo42 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

That's what the caption the article above says

consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Might I ask, what was your path to finding this image?

rafram 2 hours ago | parent [-]

https://www.nasa.gov/gallery/journey-to-the-moon/

consumer451 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks so much. Sending this link to my nerdy nephews immediately.

ranie93 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Maybe it’s because I (like many) have experienced taking pictures at night and seeing the grainy result that _this_ image struck me as incredibly realistic.

Almost like I ran the grainy-to-real conversion in my mind and I felt like I was imagining seeing this in person. Beautiful image!

hypercube33 5 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Wild. I saw a quick glance and assumed the Z9 but the D5 is near the peak of the DSLR world so I guess.

throw0101d an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, the D5s are the 'official' Handheld Universal Lunar Cameras (HULCs), but (a?) Z9 also got on-board at the 'last minute' (which means two years ago):

* https://petapixel.com/2026/04/02/a-nikon-z9-made-it-aboard-t...

They have a thermal blanket for exterior work:

* https://petapixel.com/2026/02/24/artemis-ii-astronauts-will-...

* https://petapixel.com/2025/01/10/the-custom-nikon-z9-and-the...

* Various stories with the "Artemis" tag: https://petapixel.com/tag/artemis/

The D5 has been used on the ISS, including EVAs, since 2017, so they're a known quantity:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_on_the_Interna...

The Mercury and Apollo missions used Hasselblad 500-series-based cameras (modified):

* https://www.hasselblad.com/about/history/hasselblad-in-space...

porphyra 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'd have probably shot it wide open at f/2.8 rather than cranking the ISO up to 51200. Incredibly impressed at the steady hands for a sharp image at 1/4 s shutter speed though! Maybe they just let the camera float in space with the mirror up, triggering it remotely.

throw0101d 43 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> I'd have probably shot it wide open at f/2.8 rather than cranking the ISO up to 51200.

One of the reasons the D5 supposedly was chosen was because of its high dynamic and good low light performance. It can go up to ISO 3,280,000:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_D5

The D5 has been used on the ISS, including EVAs, since 2017, so is a known quantity:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_on_the_Interna...

porphyra 5 minutes ago | parent [-]

The good low light performance was amazing for its time (10 years ago), and it still holds up decently today. But let's not kid ourselves -- it has been clearly surpassed by modern backside illuminated CMOS sensors like the one on the Z9.

ourmandave 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You can get a D5 on amazon.com. It would be amazing if one of the astronauts did a review explaining how it performs in space.

narmiouh an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would imagine since they are not circling the earth, that there will be pull of gravity and the camera would start to move relative to the spacecraft. But may not fast enough for a short exposure

treis an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

They're in space so they only sort of need to hold the camera.

sdenton4 an hour ago | parent [-]

Or maybe press the timer and let it float...

brudgers 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It also seems like very little was done in Lightroom.

This is consistent with good photographic technique that prioritizes "getting it right in the camera."

atentaten 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Nice. It would've been cool to see what the location information in the EXIF looked like, if it were there.

Kye 2 hours ago | parent [-]

The D5 doesn't have built in GPS, and adding it requires an attachment. I don't know if the smartphone app works on that model, but it is from the same year as my D5600 which does support it. The app provides GPS but also drains the battery fast. I turned airplane mode on after the first dead battery.

GPS might work out there though: https://www.nasa.gov/directorates/somd/space-communications-...

g-mork 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

250 ms f/4 ISO 512000 in case anyone was wondering. I wonder if they applied any denoise, it looks great for such high ISO

pants2 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

While the D5 is a great camera it's ~10 years old. Wonder why they didn't go for the Z9 which is its modern mirrorless equivalent.

jimbosis 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"The Nikon D5 remains the camera of choice for the Artemis II mission and will be assigned primary photographic duties. It is a proven, highly-tested camera that the Artemis II team knows will excel in the high-radiation environment of space. However, as Artemis II Commander Reid Wiseman explained ahead of yesterday’s launch, he successfully fought to have a single Nikon Z9 added to Artemis II’s manifest."

https://petapixel.com/2026/04/02/a-nikon-z9-made-it-aboard-t...

There are more interesting details in the PetaPixel article, such as: "'That’s the camera that they’ll be using, the crew will be using on Artemis III plus, so we were fighting really hard to get that on the vehicle to test out in a high-radiation environment in deep space,' Wiseman said."

H/t to "SiliconEagle73" who linked to that PetaPixel article in the thread linked below.

https://old.reddit.com/r/nasa/comments/1sbfevm/new_high_reso...

zimpenfish 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> Wonder why they didn't go for the Z9 which is its modern mirrorless equivalent.

From [0], "The D5 was chosen for its radiation resistance, extreme ISO range (up to 3,280,000), and proven reliability in space." (

[0] https://www.photoworkout.com/artemis-ii-nikon-d5-moon/

porphyra 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They did bring the Z9: https://petapixel.com/2026/04/02/a-nikon-z9-made-it-aboard-t...

But yeah the grainy photo of the Earth with the D5 at ISO 51200 shows the shortcomings of the ancient DSLR. Still, great shot.

loloquwowndueo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Zero point in measuring camera sizes (or other sizes haha) when JWST is floating there.

reactordev 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Government budgets man…

to11mtm 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

...

My only curiosity, and yeah I know orders of significance etc...

Buuuuut I wonder why they didn't consider a Z5[0][1] and the Z mount 14-24, or the Z5 with an adapter for the F mount 14-24....

There's at least a pound of weight savings on the table.

Specifically, I wonder if it's a fun reason? i.e. it would be interesting if there was a technical reason like 'IBIS fails miserbly' or 'increased sensor resolution adds too much noise' (even at that ISO you gave from the EXIF...)

[0] I'm really more of a Sony person but am thus keenly aware about importance of UX feel, so I tried to keep the question apples to apples here.

Edited to add:

[1] Per [0] I may be stupid in thinking the Z5 is a 'at least minimal' substitute so happy to learn something here.

geerlingguy an hour ago | parent | next [-]

They have a Z9 on board for radiation testing, but the D5 is the primary body for imaging on this mission IIRC

throw0101d 39 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

The D5 has been used on the ISS since 2017, including EVAs:

* https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cameras_on_the_Interna...

The ISS now (also?) has Z9s. So they're both generally known-quantities.

to11mtm an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah other folks gave better insight while I was writing my comment, oops...

rafram an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

When you're riding a rocket that weighs 3.5 million pounds...

to11mtm an hour ago | parent [-]

Is that the Rocket or the Craft+Mission payload?

My understanding is it's on the order of 5-10 pounds of rocket juice to get one pound of something to LEO, thus the question.

HPsquared an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Any GPS data? I wonder if it would pick anything up. Altitude reading would be interesting!

SMAAART 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

https://exifinfo.org/detail/RjJtDLtCfS5kpq0fM2e7yA

consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Thanks! This was my first question.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was confused when I first saw this photo, as I don't think I've ever before seen a nightside, moonlit Earth, exposed so that it looks like the dayside at a first glance. I wonder how many casual viewers actually realize it's the night side. A nice demonstration of how moonlight is pretty much exactly like sunlight, just much much dimmer. In particular it has the same color, even though moonlight is often thought of as bluish and sunlight as yellowish!

dylan604 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I've done several shoots lit only by the full moon. Doing long exposure, the images are as you stated not much different than an image taken during the day, except for looking at the sky and seeing stars.

I've also done video shoots with the newer mirrorless cameras and fast lenses shooting wide open again lit with nothing but the full moon. It again looks daylight on the image. As a bit of BTS, I recorded a video of the screen on the camera showing what it was seeing, and then pulled away and reframed to show essentially the same shot as the camera but it's just solid black. One of those videos was fun as we caught a bit of lens flaring from the moon, and you can actually see the details of the surface of the moon in the reflection. It was one of those things I just never considered before as flares coming from lights or the sun are just void of detail.

nomilk 12 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks. Until you pointed out it's Earth at night, I had no clue what was supposed to be special about this photo (it appeared suspiciously pixelated for something 'high res', and neighbouring pixels seemed to contrast in colour rather than smoothly complementing as most photos do - but I guess that's random patches of city lights being captured by the camera). Cool stuff!

Something I haven't figured out is: what is that yellow/whitish smudge toward the center of the earth? It looks like camera glare or a reflection?

Sharlin 2 minutes ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it's a reflection from the window.

layer8 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It explains why the image is so grainy. At first I was confused what that stripe to the left and the bottom was. But it’s just the window edge, and the noise isn’t stars.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

(To be clear, the bright dots are stars [except the brightest one, in the lower right, is Venus I think], which makes this photo also a great demonstration that of course you can capture stars in space, you just have to expose properly!)

dylan604 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Who said you can't capture stars in space? What do you think the purpose of Hubble, JWST, etc are? There's also plenty of imagery taken from ISS that clearly show stars. I've definitely seen Orion in some of that imagery and it put a different perspective on the size of the constellations when seen from that angle.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I referred to the common question (or accusation) of why there are no stars in, say, the Apollo photos taken on the moon. The answer is, of course, that you can't see stars if you're exposing for something bright and sunlit, like the day side of Earth, or the lunar surface.

smallerize 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Photos from the moon landings don't have stars in them, because they are exposed for full daylight on the moon.

MarkusQ 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How do you know that they're stars? I believe they probably are stars as well (by visual comparison with a star chart, suitably rotated), but I've found no source for either claim.

I did find multiple sources, including TFA, for the brightest being Venus.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They're much brighter than the noise floor. Photographic noise doesn't really have such outliers.

dylan604 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why would you think they are not stars? Not really sure the confusion on the matter. Are we leaning towards this being shot from a soundstage?

MarkusQ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Just answered my own question to my satisfaction; they are stars.

The same specs, which match star charts, show up in two images taken a few moments apart at different exposures (links were given down-thread).

MarkusQ 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well one of them is obviously Venus. How did you determine the others weren't stars?

layer8 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I’m talking about the grainy noise over all the black parts (actually over the Earth disk as well), including beyond the window edge. The window edge itself looks like a denser and brighter stripe of stars.

Zoom into this higher-resolution version: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/art002e00019...

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yep, that's definitely noise.

thaumasiotes 24 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> even though moonlight is often thought of as bluish and sunlight as yellowish!

Is that... true? Sunlight is seen as yellow, of course, but the moon is usually thought of as white.

madaxe_again 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s a remarkable photo. You can see the aurora Australis at the top right of the image (it’s upside down, if there is such a thing - that’s the straits of Gibraltar at the lower left, and the Sahara above it - and the skein of atmosphere wrapping the entire planet. Those look like noctilucent clouds in the north, or possibly more aurora.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

It really is gorgeous. You can see both auroral rings, then there's airglow, and city lights around Gibraltar and on the South American coast, and lightning flashes in the storm clouds over the tropics.

BurningFrog an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Moonlight is reflected sunlight.

susam 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Much higher quality images are available on the NASA Image Library:

Dark Side of the Earth: https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/amf-art002e000193/

Hello World: https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/fd02_for-pao/

On images-assets.nasa.gov, we can find the 5567x3712 resolution versions of these pictures:

Dark Side of the Earth: https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000193/art002e00...

Hello World: https://images-assets.nasa.gov/image/art002e000192/art002e00...

ajs1998 an hour ago | parent [-]

It disappoints me greatly they're not raw :(

whycombinetor 10 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"It is the first time since 1972 that humans have travelled outside of the Earth's orbit." But they're not tho (Earth's gravitational dominance extends 4x the distance to the moon)

rationalist 3 minutes ago | parent [-]

Technically correct, the best kind of correct. After all, the moon is in Earth's orbit.

MrGilbert 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love the fact that you can see the aurora at both poles!

sva_ 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I wish I could see a pic from today with the aurora. I was surprised to see the aurora in northern Europe a couple hours ago, it is very active right now.

MrGilbert 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it is - unfortunately, it is rather cloudy in my area at the moment. Luckily, the weather was better during the 19./20. January event, which I'll carry forever in my heart.

ge96 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why 'spectacular' the quotes

I'm sad not alive at a time like Cowboy Bebop oh well, this is a great pic, overview effect

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They are quoting NASA.

juleiie 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

[unexplained loss of data]

ge96 2 hours ago | parent [-]

It is funny if you think about it, imagine you arrive on a planet and there is nothing there, now what. Not saying it is not worth doing but it's like other aspects of life, about the journey. But yeah I think we are lucky to have this ability/get outside of our sandbox. Be aware of the bigger picture.

mkoryak an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is exactly what I need for printing as 14x10 4x6 photos stitched together!

sensanaty 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It really is crazy when you think about it, we're capable of taking a picture of the planet we live on from outer space. We take it for granted, that we know what it all looks like. I often find myself wondering how ancient peoples before us would react to something like this

consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Man, this is truly awesome. I wonder if NASA's Don Pettit, u/astro_pettit [0] consults on all missions going forward. He really should.

He is "our people," as far as hacking astrophotography from space. [1]

[0] https://old.reddit.com/user/astro_pettit

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=42701645

sph an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It really just is a blue marble floating in nothingness.

hmaxwell 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

wait why is it round?

delichon 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

The shot is from directly above the disc and the great turtle is hidden beneath it.

falcor84 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's not really round, it's just a lens aberration.

rvnx 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

How come the pictures have such bad quality ? Is it a bandwidth issue ? Or there are really constraints that are not so obvious ?

Because fundamentally it is a large object illuminated by sunlight.

sgt 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, it's BBC's compression of that image.

Look at the original: https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/fd02_for-pao/

It's grainy, but the detail is terrific.

AndroTux 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No GPS coordinates in the EXIF data. Would've been funny.

consumer451 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

@dang, mods: maybe this should be the post's link. The image quality is much higher.

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's the night-side Earth, taken at a high ISO value to keep shutter speed fast to prevent blur.

rvnx 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Ok thank you, makes more sense, I thought it was the day-side

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yes, I was also confused when I first saw it – how could the aurora be visible?! The bright sliver of atmosphere in the lower right is, of course, backlit by the sun which is itself eclipsed by Earth. It's the near-full moon that provides most of the illumination here. Besides both auroral rings you can also see airglow, city lights, and lightning flashes, it's a marvellous photo.

longislandguido 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The image, titled Hello, World

A new hello.jpg?

getnormality an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you're confused what you're looking at, turn it upside down.

MiscIdeaMaker99 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

What a gorgeous sight to behold!

nout 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It took me a while to orient myself on that picture, until I realized where Spain is... :)

seydor 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

whats different between this and all the other pics of earth from various space devices

Rebelgecko 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I saw someone point out on reddit that this probably the first digital picture of the whole earth (well, 1 side of it) taken by a person

Apollo used film and it's been a long time since anyone has gone past LEO

WalterBright 30 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Haven't any of the space probes taken such pictures as they left to wander through the solar system?

Forge36 41 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

There something amazing about that. Thanks for pointing it out!

layer8 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s taken by a human on the way to the moon.

senko 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is the night side.

Strom 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Taken by a different camera, from a different location, at a different time.

bilsbie 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can we confirm the cloud patterns match weather data from the same time? Might be a good way to verify.

darknavi 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

Verify what?

bilsbie 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

The shapes match.

suzzer99 an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Where's Antarctica?

saint_yossarian 17 minutes ago | parent [-]

Just behind the horizon somewhere on the top right, or maybe some of those clouds are already it.

You can see for yourself in Google Maps if you enable the globe view, unfortunately it seems I can't share a direct link.

eager_learner an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

this ought to put flat-earthers completely down. :)

yieldcrv 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I love how all the public critique about not being able to see stars in nasa photos has resulted in better dynamic range photography and composition

just the lowest hanging fruit that had been a second class citizen to the marvel of having an extraterrestrial angle to begin with

nektro an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

truly stunning picture

thumbsup-_- an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Imagine that all our joys, problems and attachments are within that blue sphere

evilelectron 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Hello again dot.

Look again at that dot. That's here. That's home. That's us. — Carl Sagan, Pale Blue Dot, 1994

underlipton 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Can't decide if this is "MOEAGARE ARUCHIMISU" moment or a "Transcending Time" moment.

brcmthrowaway 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Does there exist a camera that can zoom into a single person from this distance?

xandrius 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nope, not today that can be easily brought in space. Plus the atmosphere interfering.

HanClinto 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Relevant XKCD "what if?" [0] is relevant.

[0] - https://what-if.xkcd.com/32/

sandworm101 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Come on flat-earthers. I know you are out there. Lets hear your crazy rant about how this is a fisheye lens on a weather balloon or a webcam atop the eiffel tower. Why can't we see the poles? And is that an ice wall on poking up in the lower-right quadrant of the disk?

YZF 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"How to Talk to a Science Denier: Conversations with Flat Earthers, Climate Deniers, and Others Who Defy Reason"

https://www.amazon.ca/How-Talk-Science-Denier-Conversations/...

brendoelfrendo 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ridicule them until they leave? Don't really feel like wasting my time on any more than that.

majkinetor an hour ago | parent [-]

Exactly what Professor Dave does.

layer8 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don’t you see the reflection of the studio lighting in the middle?

geldedus 3 hours ago | parent [-]

of course they are sore losers

christophilus 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

My guess is the answer is: We didn’t really launch Artemis. This is all CG.

NitpickLawyer 3 hours ago | parent [-]

> This is all CG.

Reminds me of the classic - It is true that Spielberg filmed the moon landings, but he was such a perfectionist that he wanted to shoot on location.

dylan604 3 hours ago | parent [-]

ahem, Kubrik

saint_yossarian 26 minutes ago | parent [-]

Kubrick, even.

simonw 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This was a fantastic YouTube video on flat earther beliefs from a few years ago: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JTfhYyTuT44

Spoiler - they mostly switched to QAnon instead.

the_humblest 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Don't pay attention to "authorities," think for yourself.

- Feynman

jgrahamc 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

There is no point engaging in any way with people who believe in such "theories". They are like trolls, the only way to deal with them is not at all. Don't engage, don't disagree, just nothing, total silence. One can choose to be a wilful edit and waste your life and time on complete bullshit, but the rest of us should just ignore those people completely.

sandworm101 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Ya, but eventually they all wind up wearing furs and carrying spears as they storm the gates of some government building. Its all good fun until people start to die. We laugh as soveriegn citizens are yanked from thier cars. Harder to watch are the vids of them pulling guns on police.

Conspiracy theorists need to be kept in check. Disengagment is easy but it doesnt help.

JumpCrisscross 30 minutes ago | parent [-]

> eventually they all wind up wearing furs and carrying spears as they storm the gates of some government building

Put them in jail. If it becomes a serious problem, execute them for trying to overthrow our government.

The problem isn’t these people existing, speaking or even orgabusing. It’s the broken system of incentives that flow from our idiotic pardon powers.

gaurangt 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Oh, wait, in addition to their usual conspiracy theories, now they can also claim that this is AI-generated!

itsalwaysthem 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Flat Earth is a distraction or a way to ridicule any counter-narrative to anything scientific.

When a cosmologist says that a planet nobody can see exists and is made of x% helium and is y light years away etc etc with absolute certainty despite nobody being able to go there and witness any of it (look how wrong they were about Pluto’s appearance), then you can always just say “what are you a Flat Earther” and easily discredit any doubt I have in these extraordinary claims with underwhelming evidence.

Any idea you want the public to oppose, you can create and market an adjacent thing, like Trump. You can throw all the ideas you want to oppose in the Trump bucket and if anyone supports it it’s probably because they’re a Trump supporter right?

See you’re very very easily programmed, like clockwork.

kube-system 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> a planet nobody can see exists and is made of x% helium and is y light years away etc etc

Yeah, because this is high-school curriculum.

https://www.jpl.nasa.gov/edu/resources/lesson-plan/using-lig...

> with absolute certainty

It is taught that the scientific method provides evidence, not certainty, in middle school science curriculum.

adrian_b 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I do not know what you mean about "how wrong they were about Pluto’s appearance".

Since when I was very young and until now the amount of information about Pluto has continuously increased, so now we know much more about it.

For example now we know that Pluto is practically a double planet, having a relatively very large satellite. This was not known when I was a child, e.g. at the time of the first NASA Moon missions.

However, I do not remember anything wrong. Many things that have been learned recently were previously unknown, not wrong.

If you refer to the fact that Pluto was reclassified as a dwarf planet, that is also a case of information previously unknown, not wrong.

This planetary reclassification was not the first.

When Ceres was discovered in 1801, it was considered the 7th planet, after the 5 planets known in antiquity and Uranus that was discovered a few years earlier. (The chemical elements uranium and cerium, which were discovered soon after the planets, were named so after the new planets, as their discovery impressed a lot the people of those times.)

However, soon after Ceres a great number of other bodies were discovered in the same region and it was understood that Ceres is not a single planet, but a member of the asteroid belt.

Exactly the same thing happened with Pluto, but because of its distance, more years have passed until a great number of bodies have been discovered beyond Neptune and it became understood that Pluto is just one of them, i.e. a member of the Kuiper belt, so it was reclassified, exactly like Ceres.

chrisnight 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Your argument is against large generalizations and straw man arguments, and to prove it, you.. use a generalization and straw man argument?

maxbond 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> ...discredit any doubt I have in these extraordinary claims with underwhelming evidence.

Something unfortunate about our media environment is that science news is a dumbed down summary of a dumbed down summary of a dumbed down summary. These issues you're flagging, a lack of evidence and overstated certainty - they're an artifact of the reporting process. If you work your way back to the original sources, there will be a heck of a lot of evidence and it will carry error bars (so the certainty is precisely & appropriately stated). There's bad or even fraudulent papers out there but there's a huge amount of good science being done by honest researchers who are just as concerned as you are about the quality of the evidence and the degree of certainty.

Eg, there really is a compelling explanation of how we can know the composition of a gas giant light-years away, and it isn't invented out of thin air, it's been 100+ year process of understanding spectroscopy and cosmology, building better telescopes, etc. It's the culmination of generations of scientists pushing the field forward millimeter by millimeter.

wat10000 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Do you believe in Antarctica?

slopinthebag 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The only real difference between the "spaceflight" in the 1960's and today is that these pictures don't need to be hand painted - you can render them in Blender in a single day.

But yeah, sure. With the amount of fake stuff on the internet including AI image generation, we're expected to believe that the US government dumped billions of dollars into going to space when they could give the appearance of doing so for a few bucks in nano banana credits? Hah.

mylies43 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Im curious, so the rocket definitely took off, where did it go?

maxbond 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They couldn't do that for "a few bucks of nano banana credits" though. You could generate the imagery but that's only one line of evidence. A launch is easily detectable through multiple signals.

Why would Russia and China and any other country with any degree of astronomic capability that the US has an adversarial relationship with just let them get away with lying to the world? Why wouldn't they take the opportunity to humiliate the US by revealing that no launch happened and that they cannot detect the spacecraft?

slopinthebag 2 hours ago | parent [-]

How would they prove that no launch happened? There isn't conclusive evidence of an absence of launch, and if there were it would be accused as being fake and a ploy from American enemies to discredit them.

maxbond an hour ago | parent [-]

> There isn't conclusive evidence of an absence of launch, ...

A launch is detectable seismically, visually, on radar, etc. There's a lot of investment in being able to detect launches (to detect the launch of nuclear weapons). It would be screamingly obvious if the launch was fake. It would absolutely be conclusive if there were no seismic activity, no radar return, they couldn't detect the spacecraft presently, etc. At least for a definition of "conclusive" that can be operationalized - conclusiveness is a judgement call about when evidence is sufficient and not reaching some theoretical 100% certainty. Which can't possibly be reached for any claim for the reason you outlined; you can always invent some negative counterclaim that can't be entirely dismissed, even for claims like "the sky is blue".

It's also pretty easy to find people who were physically there to witness the launch. This wasn't a secret bunker or a barge in the middle of the ocean. It was in Florida in the late afternoon.

> ...it would be accused as being fake and a ploy from American enemies to discredit them.

Hundreds of thousands of people around the world have access to this data. Astronomers, geologists, petroleum engineers, backyard amateurs. The conspirators could muddy the waters but they couldn't ultimately prevail. It is many orders of magnitude easier to go to the moon than to convincingly fake it.

delichon 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I object to being included in this image without a model release and demand that pixel be removed.

delecti 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Your comment history suggests you're in the US, so you should be pleased to learn that you weren't included. The visible landmass is northern Africa, with a smidge of the Iberian Peninsula visible.

layer8 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

South America is visible on the right, and it looks to me like part of North America might also be pictured close to the horizon.

Higher-resolution image: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/art002e00019...

delecti 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Oh, good point. I missed South America under the cloud cover. I guess the Eastern edge of the US would indeed be visible as a highly distorted smudge on the edge of the visible surface.

For a view of roughly the same half of Earth, but with less clouds, if you rotate the image clockwise by 150 degrees you get roughly this viewpoint of the earth: https://earth.google.com/web/@3.63731074,-23.1618975,-2690.7...

mtone 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Thanks!

There's a heading control to include rotation in link: https://earth.google.com/web/@3.63731074,-23.1618975,-2690.7...

al_borland 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thank you. I have having trouble making sense of the orientation. My first thought was misshapen Australia, but where Spain nears Africa is much different than Australia and Tasmania. Also, they forgot New Zealand... while common for maps, I would expect it to show up in a photo.

nasretdinov 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If they somehow manage to get another photo which features Australia without New Zealand that would be the best Apr 1st joke I've ever seen

mememememememo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Thanks I was looking for an orientation comment.

sph an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Classic American thinking even from space they are the center of the world smdh

brongondwana 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tell the world you're REALLY fat without telling the world ...

palata 2 hours ago | parent [-]

"Your mom is so fat she would take a whole pixel on that image"?

wishfish an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Now I'm wondering about how many people per pixel?

idiotsecant 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Bad news, I was across town and I do consent to my pixel being used, so you're outta luck

damnitbuilds 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Anyone find the full res version of this ?

Nasa images page is useless. Government work.

matteason 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

They're here: https://www.nasa.gov/gallery/journey-to-the-moon/

Direct link to this image: https://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2026/04/art002e00019...

mbauman 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That version is ~~brightened significantly~~ (edit) a longer exposure; I like the darker one better.

https://www.nasa.gov/image-detail/amf-art002e000193/

Sharlin 3 hours ago | parent [-]

They're two separate photos, just taken at different exposure settings.

mbauman 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Sure enough, thanks for the correction!

sgt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't understand why media, such as BBC, keep uploading heavily compressed versions of photos that could be beautiful. The original has grain, sure but that's not a problem. The BBC version is horrific. Are they trying to save on bandwidth in 2026?

Jordan-117 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"I cannot immediately find a photo on a website, therefore I will denigrate the agency that sent people into OUTER SPACE to make these incredible images possible."