| ▲ | t-writescode 6 hours ago |
| Nice severance; but in this job market, holy shit. Yeah, you get 5 months of severance and a bunch of devices and such; but, does this CEO really think these employees will find new work in that time? In this job market? If the profits are still up and growing, why on earth would you evict 40% of the company, to send them into this job market? Why not … try new industries, play around, try to become the next Mitsubishi or Samsung or General Electric. If you’ve got the manpower and talent, why not play with it and see if anything makes money. In-house startups with stable capital, all that. This seems … wrong. |
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| ▲ | Swizec 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Nice severance; but in this job market, holy shit. I just talked to a bunch of recruiters (we're hiring) and their main piece of advice was: The market is crazy. Move fast. We're seeing people getting jobs within days of starting to look, bailing on offers after signing because they got a better offer somewhere else, etc. 24 hours is the longest you can leave a candidate waiting. You have been warned edit: I am in SFBA. Your reality may be different. People have spilled some 2 trillion dollars onto the area in the past 2 years. A lot of that is going to software engineers as everyone tries to shove AI down consumers' throats. Rents are up 60% in 12 months, which is not the sign of a cold employment market :) |
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| ▲ | tombert 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm in NYC which I think has similar demographics to SF in this regard; I found my job in August of last year, after about five months of searching, and I found it because a friend of mine referred me. It's a good job, and I like it, I'm grateful for that friend. Regardless, it's not like that was the only job I applied to. I had a policy of applying to at least ten jobs a day, so I applied to about ~1500 jobs, and literally all of them rejected me except for the one I have right now. I had about twenty other interviews (edit: 15, checked my calendar from last year), a few that got to late stages, and they didn't pan out [1]. I psychotically save money so I wasn't worried in any kind of existential sense, I could survive for years if I needed, but man I would have killed to be in a situation where I even had the opportunity to bail on an offer. This has been the worst economy for software engineers I've seen in my ~15 year career. I am slightly optimistic that it will improve eventually but I suspect "eventually" might mean several more years. [1] And one at a one of the world's largest bank (that my lawyer/mom has advised me not to name publicly) where my interviewers were potentially the most incompetent people I have ever talked to and who didn't seem to know what an atomic was in Java, and "corrected" my counter code with a mutex. And I put "corrected" in quotes, because what they corrected it to would deadlock. Morons. | | |
| ▲ | eitally an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | The trick to applying these days is to have a contact on the inside that can tell you what the hiring manager is actually looking for, vs what's in the public JD, and then to refer you. That doesn't scale to 10 jobs/day for very long because almost nobody has a network that big. If you don't land something through referral to the hiring manager, it's mostly a crap shoot these days. | |
| ▲ | garbawarb 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I'm a senior in NYC, considering changing jobs but haven't pulled the trigger. I've got a good amount of reachouts from finance recruiters and small-to-medium sized startups but haven't heard anything from the established players (admittedly I haven't been looking). | | |
| ▲ | tombert 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | I got a number of finance recruiters reaching out then too but nothing stuck. I got a few interviews (even got to meet a few interesting characters like Martin Shkreli) but nothing panned out until my friend gave me a referral to my current gig. I think recruiters will just carpet bomb emails out and then only respond like ten percent of the people that email them back. |
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| ▲ | vedaba 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Blink once if the bank rhymed with face | | |
| ▲ | tombert 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not that one. I think there's MORe to GAiN from STAyiNg away from this deLicatE storY. Sorry my keyboard acted up and I can't seem to delete that sentence. |
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| ▲ | mwigdahl 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You're hiring, so of course that's the message you're getting from recruiters. "Market is hot", so take their candidates quick before someone else snaps them up. Don't believe this line without confirmation. | | |
| ▲ | thepasswordis 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | No, that's just the reality of the market right now. Software engineers are an extremely hot field, likely because everybody is trying to add AI to their products. https://www.citadelsecurities.com/news-and-insights/2026-glo... | | |
| ▲ | loktarogar 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I'm an software engineer with 17 years experience and I can't even get an interview at most places I put my resume in to. | | |
| ▲ | davidw 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm being very picky with what I look at, which doesn't help, but yeah, it doesn't seem great. Maybe they're all in person gigs? Or is there some ageism? (There has always been some ageism in software) | | |
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| ▲ | iAMkenough 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Easier to hire consultants to add AI to do your software engineering for you than temporarily hire humans with needs and benefit costs to add AI to do your software engineering for you. |
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| ▲ | operatingthetan 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yeah that would make me consider finding a different recruiter. Real estate agent mentality means their interests are not aligned properly. |
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| ▲ | davidw 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Is this hiring people to dig ditches for data center infrastructure or something? Because it doesn't sound like software. | | |
| ▲ | Swizec 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just the current reality in SFBA. People have spilled some 2 trillion dollars onto the area in the past 2 years. A lot of that is going to software engineers as everyone tries to shove AI down consumers' throats. | | |
| ▲ | VBprogrammer 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Not being obtuse, I even googled it, but I have no idea what SFBA is in this context. I'm assuming it's not to do with windsurfing in the San Francisco Bay Area or some kind of insulation. Could you elaborate? | | |
| ▲ | ianbutler 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They're just saying the job market is hot in the location of the S (San) F (Francisco) B (Bay) A (Area) it's not cryptic, I'll assume you had a brain fart here it happens. Unless I'm getting whooshed now lol, but yeah the market here is just super hot because all the AI money sloshing around. | | |
| ▲ | ericmay 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | For what it's worth I actually took "SFBA" and Googled it because I wasn't sure either. I've always heard of it referred to as SF or SV. Learn new stuff every day. |
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| ▲ | jahlove 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | you're so close! | | |
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| ▲ | gsibble 3 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That has not been my experience. | |
| ▲ | WatchDog 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Pre-covid, and during the early covid hiring spree, I used to get messages from eager recruiters every week, I get maybe one a month these days, and they are much more tepid. | |
| ▲ | garbawarb 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | To anyone who's been looking for SWE jobs lately, has this been your experience? | | |
| ▲ | sickcodebruh an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Started looking in November, four offers by end of January, all decent, last two competing offers were fantastic with great companies and I accepted one. Past few months and even now I’ve had more inbounds from recruiters than any time since Covid boom. Offer salaries aren’t as high as Covid boom days but there are a ton of startups that need people. | |
| ▲ | shaftway 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've actually had really positive responses. I'm fairly senior (~20 years of experience). I was laid off by Meta in 2022, started at Block 3 months later. Laid off by Block in 2024, started at a smaller company 1 month later. Decided to leave that company in early 2025, contacted one company from a HN Who's Hiring post and took that job. That ended up being a poor fit, and I went back to a FAANG around July of 2025. In the last three transitions I applied to a grand total of 5 companies. Also, looking at the recruiter emails I've been getting, they've been ramping up over the last few months, and I'm back up to one or two cold emails per week. But again, I'm fairly senior, and I have deep domain knowledge in a few key areas. I understand the market is brutal if you're early career or your knowledge isn't "T" shaped. | | |
| ▲ | Rapzid 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Also getting lot's of direct recruiter and engineering leadership pings. | | |
| ▲ | etimberg 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Eng leadership pings seems to be one of the few strategies that's been working on the hiring side for finding great talent the last few months |
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| ▲ | yogorenapan 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Wildy varies. I'm a new grad and got my first offer after 8 applications and got another offer last week unprompted. Meanwhile my friend graduating from the same university has done 300 applications and a couple dozen interviews with no offer. | | | |
| ▲ | malfist 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Just left amazon for Stripe. Not part of a layoff. It wasn't too bad for me. Remote middle of the country too |
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| ▲ | littlexsparkee 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Zumper says 15.6% on 1b, 21.3% on 2b - how did you get to 60?
https://www.zumper.com/rent-research/national-rent-report | |
| ▲ | kermatt 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > 24 hours is the longest you can leave a candidate waiting. You have been warned. Need to tell more recruiters. | |
| ▲ | tayo42 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > I am in SFBA. Your reality may be different. With my current job search I've got the sense that sf is once again the place to be. Everything else kind of sucks, lots went back on remote work. | |
| ▲ | Grosvenor 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Can you give me your recruiters number? | |
| ▲ | operatingthetan 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It seems like the tech job market is exactly the opposite of this right now? Could you be more specific? | | |
| ▲ | ej88 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | trimodal swe compensation (elite, big tech, everyone else) extends to the job markets too | | |
| ▲ | operatingthetan 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | They generalized "the market." I know a lot of out of work SWEs right now. | | |
| ▲ | ej88 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | is there any data about the overall job market on whether it's been good or bad? genuinely curious the most recent data point shows a rebound https://www.citadelsecurities.com/news-and-insights/2026-glo... and fwiw i dont know any swes struggling to find work personally swe is so broad and in bubbles its hard to get an objective analysis | | |
| ▲ | Swizec 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Software development jobs are up 10%. Jobs in general are down 6% https://x.com/perborgen/status/2025890393166917857 | | | |
| ▲ | yesb 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Their graph shows a rebound to early-mid 2024 levels which is promising but still a relatively bad job market | | |
| ▲ | ej88 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | i guess it depends on what you define as bad and what that threshold is https://trueup.io/job-trend this tracker shows continuous improvement since 2023 | | |
| ▲ | yesb 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Sure, I assumed status quo everyone is talking about is basically the several years before that graph. I still think it's relatively bad compared to that despite the modest improvement. What's not shown in a graph of job postings is the demand side. With all the layoffs, out of work college grads, people staying put in jobs they are unhappy with, etc., I'd wager that demand per job is still at a historically high level compared to what we have been accustomed to |
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| ▲ | jcims 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| >If the profits are still up and growing, why on earth would you evict 40% of the company, to send them into this job market? To avoid laying them off in next year's job market. Dripping a 10% cut every year for the next four years when you *know* that you're going to do it is cowardice. |
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| ▲ | camdenreslink 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Nobody can know they will need to lay off 10% multiple years from now. So many things can change between now and then. For all Block knows, AI for coding kind of plateaus where it is now and there is a huge boom in software engineer hiring taking advantage of the new tech to produce even more/better features. | |
| ▲ | jwilber 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Or empathetic, especially when they throw money away à la $70M parties: “General and administrative expenses increased by $68.1m ... The increase was primarily driven by … an in-person company event held in Q3 2025” |
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| ▲ | missedthecue 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| "Why not … try new industries, play around, try to become the next Mitsubishi or Samsung or General Electric." Betting the company on becoming a conglomerate is just not a great strategy. It is almost always smarter to focus on what you do best, "core competencies" in MBA-speak. Positive EV bets are hard to come buy. There aren't an unlimited number of them. |
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| ▲ | gwbas1c 21 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The people let go can form their own companies. I don't believe anyone has a guarantee to have a high paying white collar job until they choose to retire. Five months severance is quite generous; during that time "their job is to get a job." |
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| ▲ | unreal6 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > If you’ve got the manpower and talent, why not play with it and see if anything makes money. In-house startups with stable capital, all that We are no longer in a zero-interest rate environment, so I think those experiments are more costly than they were a few years go |
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| ▲ | ssnistfajen 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You are trying to see employees as more than just statistics which is not what CEOs are doing. They are not empathising with 4k employees because they are not seeing 4k human beings through multiple layers of abstraction. To survive at their job they have to choose abstraction. The human brain doesn't have the capacity to simultaneously comprehend the complex needs and emotions of 4000 other human beings without burning out. Yes this sucks, but this mode of operation for our society was repeatedly chosen through centuries of experimentation. We all asked for this, literally. |
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| ▲ | semitones 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | > We all asked for this, literally. Well - if "we" refers to the original selfish gene (à la Dawkins), then yes - modern capitalism has manifested as an emergent property of the core evolutionary principle. I suppose you could say that about virtually anything however... |
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| ▲ | groundzeros2015 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| If you think 5 months is bad, try none. Job loss is a reality. Don’t become emotionally invested in it never happening to you. |
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| ▲ | reactordev 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| No, the job market is dead outside of implementing workflows for AI. |
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| ▲ | akshshha 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Most C levels adhere to the “cattle, not pets” idea too. |
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| ▲ | ej88 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| obviously he's going to posture his company as growing and doing well, but clearly not enough for the board and shareholders given their headcount growth from zirp some companies are in the position to go for moonshots and block hasn't panned out |
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| ▲ | onlyrealcuzzo 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Is this actual five months severance? Or five months base pay with no vesting? Most people are making >50% of their income in RSUs. |
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| ▲ | toast0 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Maybe I'm a big capitalist, but 5 months of severance seems very generous; a job hasn't been a commitment that the company will take care of you forever in several generations. Covering you until the middle of this year should go a long way, and yeah the job market is messed up, but at least it's not mid-November where holidays mean hiring falls off the rails. |
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| ▲ | Ancalagon 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Just wondering, have you been unemployed for 6+ mos before? | | |
| ▲ | toast0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not really, no. I was underemployed for 6+ months at the start of my career, but it's easier to take whatever is available at that point. I did some data entry and then first tier ops desk restart the server when the light turns red stuff, before I got a "real job". Doing that mid career and keeping a good attitude would be difficult. But I would think 5 months paid time before you have to go on state unemployment is significantly better than the WARN act minimum of 60 days of notice or pay or the alternative of a campaign to raise attrition. Looks like recent google/meta layoffs are 4 months, so it's 25% better than that. I always thought I wanted to get a package, but I recognize that I would probably not have been happy if it happened. | |
| ▲ | darth_avocado 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Everyone is an atheist until the plane starts crashing. | | |
| ▲ | mekael 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Don’t knock me for deciding “deathbed repentance” is a decent plan. /s Maybe it’s just my background, but I’m starting to feel that a lot of people in the tech industry have never learned empathy. | | |
| ▲ | veryemartguy 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | replace tech industry with hn and you’ll be spot on. | | |
| ▲ | Ancalagon 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | why not both? | | |
| ▲ | darth_avocado 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Most people in tech still think people who are getting laid off deserve it and that they themselves are immune to it. People won’t change until they experience it first hand. |
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| ▲ | akoboldfrying 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Being let go from a job sucks. So does being dumped from a relationship. You might not be able to find another relationship in 6+ months. But I don't think people would seriously propose that people should therefore not be able to leave a relationship. | | |
| ▲ | veryemartguy 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | great analogy dude. Totally relevant. | | |
| ▲ | akoboldfrying 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Thanks! A lot of people would focus on the many obvious differences, and use those to deflect attention from the important similarity I was highlighting: That they are both things that ought to exist only so long as both parties want them to. |
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| ▲ | lotsofpulp 26 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > If the profits are still up and growing Block has never really made a real profit. These layoffs are basically saying the company is no longer in moonshot mode and it’s now in the extraction phase of whatever it has, which means increase prices for whatever it sells and decrease expenses, i.e. payroll. https://www.macrotrends.net/stocks/charts/XYZ/block/net-inco... |
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| ▲ | singpolyma3 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wrong? A company doesn't owe anyone a job. Either they need the employee or they don't. |
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| ▲ | missedthecue 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | This used to be the accepted standard but it seems today that people think any amount of profit should primarily be directed toward paying wages. (either bigger wages to existing employees, or to new employees, or both). You have multiple sub-conversations in this very comment section wondering aloud why Block didn't invent make-work or "new projects" to keep the 4,000 employed. The idea of a job being some task that needs to be done is being lost in favor of the view that a job is something you give 8 hours to in order to fill up your bank account every two weeks. It's becoming so detached from the concept of production/productivity that people literally start inadvertently talking past each other when they discuss things like layoffs or employment. I find it very common in AI jobloss discussions; the Citrini article over the weekend was subtly full of this variety of thinking. For instance, his prediction that corporate profits would rise while consumer spend dropped are literally incompatible realities, but a natural conclusion of the "the purpose of a job is to give people money" type of thought. Incredibly interesting to see, but the social contract, or at least the perception of what it ought to be, is definitely shifting. | | |
| ▲ | rytill 15 minutes ago | parent [-] | | > that corporate profits would rise while consumer spend dropped are literally incompatible realities These are not incompatible realities. I would be willing to accept the statement that corporate revenues increasing and consumer spending decreasing are incompatible realities. But it’s feasible to think the following occurs: - labor income falls - consumer spending drops - corporate revenues drop - corporate profits moderately increase because profit margins get much higher - government deficit continues (which, from an accounting perspective, means other accounts are in surplus, potentially US corporations) I’m not saying I strongly predict the above, necessarily! I just don’t think it’s correct to say it’s not a conceivable reality. |
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| ▲ | geraneum 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | But something something trickle down! Or perhaps public doesn’t owe corporates bailouts when push comes to shove? | | |
| ▲ | umanwizard 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Block has never been bailed out. | | |
| ▲ | geraneum 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Wasn’t mentioned in the parent comment either. Edit P.S. Should the individuals who don’t receive a job from a bailed out company get proportional tax refund? |
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| ▲ | KittenInABox 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I feel like the idea that X doesn't owe you Y is fundamentally at odds with the fact that humans are a cooperative species and survive the best when they are cooperating. A choir can hold a note together because individuals can stop singing to breathe, safely covered by peers who will take their turn to breathe later. What is the point of organizing socially if not for the benefit of all society members? I know we have to balance inefficiency and optimal allocation of resources... but I agree it doesn't seem optimal for social wellbeing to remove people from their access to health and risking their ability to house and feed themselves without a financial need to do so (like Block going bankrupt). | | |
| ▲ | ahepp an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I don't think it makes a lot of sense to put those responsibilities on individual firms. In the USA, achieving maximum employment has been a mandate for the Federal Reserve to achieve through monetary policy. There are many advantages to allowing individual firms to optimize for productivity. There are also a lot of harms caused by forcing firms to adopt unproductive methods. Even Keynes' joking solution for unemployment was that the treasury might bury bottles of money for private industry to dig up. | |
| ▲ | singpolyma3 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | So you think companies should hire and pay employees they don't have any use for out of charity? | |
| ▲ | bananamogul 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | "humans are a cooperative species" Humans are violent, self-centered tribalists. What species are you referring to? Not homo sapiens. | | |
| ▲ | edgyquant 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Tribalism implies cooperation | |
| ▲ | zimza an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | This has always been and always will be an excuse for the person saying it to be a "violent, self-centered tribalist". Humans have worked together for the benefit of the community for the longest time. Rugged individualism is inherently linked to capitalism. | |
| ▲ | Imustaskforhelp 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think we Humans can be both cooperative species and violent,self-centered tribalists species and definitely all the grey area between the two at the same time as well. | |
| ▲ | KittenInABox 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I do mean homo sapiens. Humans are a cooperative species. They will hunt and gather together in loose communities naturally, sharing excess resources even if individuals are not directly contributing to the resource creation due to being too young, too old, sick or injured. Having inter-societal competition doesn't mean we don't still have cooperative society. Just because ants will fight other ants in different colonies doesn't mean ants are not a social species. | |
| ▲ | johnnienaked 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | And every other civilized society except America builds internal power structures that inhibit violent self-centeredism. Maybe it's time we do the same? | |
| ▲ | retinaros 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | outside of the west yes. |
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| ▲ | simianwords 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | fundamentally you see jobs as more important than the end product. this is a tension i keep finding in many minds. | | |
| ▲ | KittenInABox 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | I see fundamentally human wellbeing as more important. Jobs are just the structure society has built as a gateway for this. | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | exactly - end consumers like you and me will end up having to pay for their jobs indirectly. i personally want products i purchase to be cheaper and i don't want to be paying for products that are costly simply because they are hiring people for "human wellbeing". i would rather people work in productive places than just exist in a company for some reason. | | |
| ▲ | inigyou 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Alternatively, instead of things being cheaper, you could receive that amount more money. | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | who? the employees? for doing what? i don't want to live in a world where people are getting paid when they don't add any value | | |
| ▲ | veryemartguy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I too spend my life ensuring that my only purpose in life is creating shareholder value | |
| ▲ | inigyou 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | you are literally complaining about the idea of having more money | | |
| ▲ | simianwords 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | more money for doing nothing? i don't want to live in a world like that. what part of this is not clear? two options - the 4000 employees can still be employed in block - thats around $600,000,000 that goes into literally no value and this is price borne by us consumers - or the 4000 employees get fired and work in different companies that actually require them so that we as consumers can actually buy more products by choosing option 1, you not only accept that as consumers we pay more for the product, but also miss out on other valuable work the 4000 employees can do. no good economy runs this way. | | |
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| ▲ | singpolyma3 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Then I suggest fixing society or finding a better one |
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| ▲ | zimza an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You are trying to pitch marxist theory to a bunchof liberals. It won't end well. (and it's not, judging by the first comments) | |
| ▲ | MattGaiser 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > with the fact that humans are a cooperative species and survive the best when they are cooperating. I dispute that this is a fact. Maybe within a small group, but startups shouldn't be possible if masses of more cooperating people led to better outcomes. A large company should always win there and that does not happen. > What is the point of organizing socially if not for the benefit of all society members? We don't come anywhere close to this on a global scale. Most countries aren't this way on a national scale. | | |
| ▲ | loktarogar 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Startups generally _don't_ end up with better outcomes. Large companies stay stable, startups are volatile and often end in failure. Stability means removal of volatility, which means to stay stable they end up becoming more generalised, rather than the laser focus a small team like a startup can have. That laser focus can work out when applied to the right problem at the right time, but is very much not a guarantee. |
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| ▲ | brap 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Because they’re not running a charity |
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| ▲ | gdilla 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| because that doesn't increase shareholder value, at least in the short term, which is all anyone cares about now. |
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| ▲ | charcircuit 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Have you not noticed the massive datacenter build out consuming tons of capital right now? |
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| ▲ | pmdr 6 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| More profits, line mustn't just go up, line must go higher. Giving away the devices is like saying "we're replacing both you and your device with AI and it's not like that device will help you get another job in this market anyway, good luck lol." |