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▲ simianwords 5 hours ago

fundamentally you see jobs as more important than the end product. this is a tension i keep finding in many minds.

▲KittenInABox 4 hours ago | parent [-]

I see fundamentally human wellbeing as more important. Jobs are just the structure society has built as a gateway for this.

▲simianwords 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

exactly - end consumers like you and me will end up having to pay for their jobs indirectly.

i personally want products i purchase to be cheaper and i don't want to be paying for products that are costly simply because they are hiring people for "human wellbeing".

i would rather people work in productive places than just exist in a company for some reason.

▲inigyou 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Alternatively, instead of things being cheaper, you could receive that amount more money.

▲simianwords 4 hours ago | parent [-]

who? the employees? for doing what? i don't want to live in a world where people are getting paid when they don't add any value

▲veryemartguy 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I too spend my life ensuring that my only purpose in life is creating shareholder value

▲inigyou 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

you are literally complaining about the idea of having more money

▲simianwords 4 hours ago | parent [-]

more money for doing nothing? i don't want to live in a world like that. what part of this is not clear?

two options

- the 4000 employees can still be employed in block - thats around $600,000,000 that goes into literally no value and this is price borne by us consumers

- or the 4000 employees get fired and work in different companies that actually require them so that we as consumers can actually buy more products

by choosing option 1, you not only accept that as consumers we pay more for the product, but also miss out on other valuable work the 4000 employees can do. no good economy runs this way.

▲singpolyma3 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

Then I suggest fixing society or finding a better one