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nkrisc 6 hours ago

People who smoke on the balconies of multi-unit buildings are awful people. It’d be a beautiful day but I can’t keep my windows open because there’s always somebody smoking to make my unit smell disgusting if I just want to enjoy a cool breeze going through.

Thank goodness smoking is becoming rarer here and is no banned pretty much everywhere indoors and near entrances.

I don’t mind if people have a vice (I’ve got mine) but keep me out of it.

aidenn0 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Smoking tobacco got rarer here, but smoking marijuana has gotten much more common. I don't know if it's just that I grew up with tobacco, but the skunk-like smell of marijuana bothers me a lot more.

nkrisc 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I didn’t even mention tobacco specifically because it’s the same either way.

its_ubuntu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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aidenn0 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I'm agnostic as to the harms vs. benefits of smoking marijuana, it's the smell that bothers me. I personally love the smell of frankincense, but I would understand if my neighbors objected to me burning it regularly.

galangalalgol 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Inhaling any particulate seems like a pretty bad idea. I knew a Jamaican guy who thought people were silly for smoking it and said tea was the best. I have no opinion, not my vice of choice.

its_ubuntu 4 hours ago | parent [-]

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fao_ 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> There is no such thing as "gluten intolerance", for example

[citation needed].

I have celiac disease and a wheat allergy, which presented at the age of 3 comorbidly.

If I ingest gliadin, my immune cells take the gliadin, run a nice little check on it, and then raise holy hell and destroy my gut villae.

If I come into contact with wheat, I get a histamine response. Even a bag of (organic, locally produced) wheat flour opened in the same room as me used to be enough to make my airways close up.

idiotsecant 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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its_ubuntu 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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idiotsecant 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You sound just delightful. A wonderful blend of ignorant and weird-but-not-in-the-good-way. Smoking anything is bad for you, including the thing you like. PM 2.5 contamination is enormously harmful, and it doesn't magically go away if it's weed.

its_ubuntu 3 hours ago | parent [-]

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Hikikomori 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You sound just like RFK Jr.

its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Whatever that means.

wasabi991011 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> There is no such thing as "gluten intolerance", for example--there is only glyphosate intolerance.

This is absurd if you know anyone with a gluten intolerance. They have an immune reaction to organic wheat (so no glyphosate) but not to any other non-organic non-gluten produce (like oats, chickpea flour, etc. which have glyphosate).

its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I've heard many anecdotes of Europeans who can't eat American wheat as it will make them sick. Even "organic." What is going on here? Something other than what we're told, is all.

"Organic" is a word owned by the U.S. Government, and cannot be used without their permission. Now who owns the U.S. Government? Follow the money trail.

Your anecdote is useful to further my understanding and I have no idea why it would be downvoted.

nozzlegear 10 minutes ago | parent [-]

This is exactly the type of thing I'd expect to be posted by someone who smoked a corncob pipe full of weed all day, every day.

zaphar 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I don't think I need to read your post history. This message already reads like some one in need of help.

jemmyw 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I did read their post history. I guess it's nice to understand that people who rant like morons don't believe they rant like morons. I always wondered about the self awareness of it.

its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I note that neither you, nor the masses of people who presumably agree with your viewpoints and find mine contemptible, have been very argumentative with me about anything I've said. Curious, as I've also noticed this forum is full of people who will argue with a brick wall if they happen to disagree with its color.

My comments have also been strangely devoid of downvotes and flags for being so wildly unpopular as you believe--this thread being the sole exception.

If you think any of my viewpoints are wrong, please do me the courtesy of pointing out exactly where so that I can either correct myself, or correct your misperception, whatever the case may be.

Passive aggressive put-downs aren't conducive to helping further anyone's understanding of anything. Nor is engaging in censorship.

(I do realize such behavior is more of a 'modern society' trait than a personal one. This is why I make it a point to keep far away from what you call 'polite society.' Most of you aren't really what I'd call polite.)

By the way, I identify as a "HE", not a "THEY." It's only one person here.

throw20251220 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

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nkrisc 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

No, because the noise of people just living life is not comparable to cigarette smoke. You can also use earplugs if you’re that sensitive to regular noises of people living around you. That kind of sensitivity is not normal though.

I can’t stop cigarette smoke from seeping in to everything in my home if I leave the windows open. Also, smoking is not a necessary part of life. You can’t live silently.

It’s not the same.

throw20251220 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

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dhosek 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe if they spent less money on cigarettes they could afford other things.

throw20251220 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Maybe. Go and ask them. Maybe they are truly awful people, maybe they are old or ill, or disabled. Go and talk to them, then start labelling them x and y. See? No one got the idea. All “you” want is that nobody bothers “you”. But thinking from the perspective of others? No, that’s too difficult. The best realisation I had in life was that I am pissing others off for some reasons, as they piss me off for some other reasons. Unfortunately the majority of the lovely “society” doesn’t have that realisation.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

I'm sure you made some interesting arguments, but unfortunately I didn't get the opportunity as your posts have been flagged by the Reddit Nanny State.

stevage 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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nkrisc 4 hours ago | parent [-]

> You can shut windows.

They could just not smoke, or smoke far away from the building where it won’t bother anyone.

> Where else do you think they are going to do it?

I don’t know, I’m not the one smoking. That’s their problem to solve.

I don’t think they’d like it if I left a bucket of rotting fish on my balcony.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

> I don’t know, I’m not the one smoking. That’s their problem to solve.

And this is exactly the problem. YOU are the problem. Your attitude is completely selfish and obnoxious, like your own concerns and value judgments should be the center of the universe. You are completely incapable of compromise, which is a necessary part of getting along with others.

appreciatorBus 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, it doesn’t work that way.

The sound of children playing is a normal part of human life, inseparable in fact from life.

The smell of cigarette smoke is neither.

stevage 5 hours ago | parent [-]

Only because you're defining one as normal and the other as abnormal.

appreciatorBus 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is possible for the human species to exist without cigarette smoke, and doubtless for at least part of our history it did not exist.

It is not possible for the human species (or any form of mortal biological life) to exist without children.

If you want to try to define the latter observation of reality as “abnormal”, fill your boots.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

> It is possible for the human species to exist without cigarette smoke

Yeah, and it's possible for it to exist without whatever pleasures you enjoy too that I don't approve of. I'm sure I can invent some twisted, self serving reasoning to justify why your activity should be banned, as I don't like it, and my judgment is better than yours.

> It is not possible for the human species (or any form of mortal biological life) to exist without children.

No, but some people's kids we could do without. Especially the ones who want to ban everything.

seattle_spring 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I remember when I was young and edgy, and thought dunking on parents was simply sharing hard truths.

Boy am I glad I grew out of that mindset.

IanCal 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you smoke you might not realise just how absolutely awful it smells and how it sticks to material. Sounds of children don’t.

paradox460 3 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't know man. I once heard the sound of children laughing and having fun, and now I've got kids of my own.

tqi 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yes, that is the same because second degree kid noises also cause cancer.

its_ubuntu 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

Spoiler alert: the "second degree smoke" thing is bullshit, just like everything else you believe.

defrost a minute ago | parent [-]

  A full range of scientific evidence, extending from the molecular level to whole populations, supports the conclusion that secondhand smoke causes disease. The scope of this evidence is enormous, and encompasses not only the literature on secondhand smoke but also relevant findings on active smoking and on the toxicity of individual tobacco smoke components.
* The Health Consequences of Involuntary Exposure to Tobacco Smoke: A Report of the Surgeon General. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK44321/

356 links to supporting studies and works

jmward01 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Society needs kids and has a collective responsibility to raise them. It has no such obligation to cigarette smoke.

throw20251220 2 hours ago | parent [-]

You want to have children? Cool. Made a mistake? Deal with it. Don’t make it sound like you are doing others a favour by having children though. “The society” will be fine without them. There are plenty out there nobody cares about.

RobotCaleb 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Did we find the smoker?

its_ubuntu 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

"The" smoker? There are millions of smokers, including on Hacker News, despite the Religious Police trying to run them off.

throw20251220 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

The correct question is “have you found a smoker who smokes on a balcony”.

unsupp0rted 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

You’re both correct, 100%. Seriously.

throw20251220 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, it’s simply pissing me off that no person noticed the only abnormal behaviour here is the dude labelling the whole category of human beings as “awful” without trying to understand their motives. Selfish and entitled on a boss level.

Are those who smoke on a top floor balcony also awful? Are those who smoke on a balcony of a multi-storey building they live alone in also awful people?

its_ubuntu 42 minutes ago | parent [-]

I smoked a cigarette in the middle of the Amazon once. A game trail camera saw me and reported me to Do-Gooder Headquarters in California. I had a strongly worded email waiting for me in my inbox when I returned, explaining in detail what a terrible person I am for exposing those poor, innocent jungle creatures to my toxic smoke.

wookmaster 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

No, doesn’t work. Nice try though.

725686 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

You must be a very congenial neighbor.

sysworld 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It makes me a little sad to see a lot of peoples comments here about how they're annoyed by xyz thing someone does that doesn't stop at there fence line or unit. So many are being downvoted.

gljiva 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

They are not "awful people". You chose to live in a multi-unit apartment building with balconies close to windows, where so many neighbours smoke on the balconies that there is _always_ someone smoking close enough to make your apartment smell disgusting, then you judge them all as if they knew how much gets into your home and how sensitive you are to it. Instead of proposing an hourly half hour no smoke compromise on the next meeting of the building's co-owners, you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives. They live in a city and can't "just quit". That doesn't make them awful people.

Tbh, I'd rather live with most of them than with you. Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed.

nkrisc 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed.

They’re more pleasant to coexist with because they let their smoke drift into my home instead of their own? What? They’re just externalizing the negatives of their own vice.

gljiva 4 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You haven't mentioned that they:

a) are aware that their smoke isn't dispersed enough by the breeze / open space to be unnoticeable.

b) know there is someone close enough who isn't like them and other smokers, and is really bothered by the smoke.

They do, however, go smoke on their balconies since they were made aware smoking inside is bad for their roommates/family.

So, many of them are more likely than not reasonable people. They _could be_. While you _proved_ that you aren't, by not communicating it (or at least not mentioning it as if it isn't the most important reason why they are "awful people"), just judging them and holding a grudge.

In this very comment you again showed that you don't care enough to understand others who you might disagree with, because I am just rephrasing what I already wrote, since you replied like I didn't.

lazyasciiart 2 hours ago | parent [-]

No, in my experience they smoke on the balcony because it is banned inside and will get them evicted.

wingworks 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, it's a bit worrying that some people don't seem to understand that just because you enjoy smoking, doesn't mean the rest of the units downstream of you want to breath it in too.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

What's truly worrying is that you don't seem to understand that just because you don't enjoy smoking, doesn't mean it confers any kind of obligation on anyone else's part.

matheusmoreira 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives

They're awful people because they are drug addicts who insist on making their unbearable smoke part of our lives too.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

I'll remember your hypocrisy next time I see you with the caffeine jitters.

Addict. Seek help, please.

matheusmoreira 38 minutes ago | parent [-]

I don't drink coffee. And even if I did, caffeine is not a drug that spreads to others in the air they breathe.

its_ubuntu 33 minutes ago | parent [-]

> I don't drink coffee. And even if I did, caffeine is not a drug that spreads to others in the air they breathe.

No, it's much more insidious. It amps people up like crack cocaine or methamphetamine. It's a real killer--people have died from it. That's why the U.S. military absolutely bans caffeine use during basic training, for example. It's a really dangerous drug that should be controlled. The people pushing this poison should be behind bars. Think of the children.

lvturner 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn't "choose" to live in a multi-unit apartment, I live in Hong Kong - there is no other option.

"Just leave them!" Yeah. Ok.

Try empathy, it's free.

its_ubuntu an hour ago | parent [-]

Your ancestors have had many opportunities to leave Hong Kong over the years. They did not, nor have you. If close interaction with people who have different values than you bothers you, then move. There are other places to live in the world besides Hong Kong. You don't have to wage war against your neighbors who are simply trying to enjoy a smoke.

barbera7 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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