They are not "awful people". You chose to live in a multi-unit apartment building with balconies close to windows, where so many neighbours smoke on the balconies that there is _always_ someone smoking close enough to make your apartment smell disgusting, then you judge them all as if they knew how much gets into your home and how sensitive you are to it. Instead of proposing an hourly half hour no smoke compromise on the next meeting of the building's co-owners, you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives. They live in a city and can't "just quit". That doesn't make them awful people.

Tbh, I'd rather live with most of them than with you. Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed.

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nkrisc 6 hours ago | parent | next [-]

> Since they smoke on the balcony, rather than near roommates/family, many are likely more mindful and pleasant to coexist with than what you displayed.

They’re more pleasant to coexist with because they let their smoke drift into my home instead of their own? What? They’re just externalizing the negatives of their own vice.

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gljiva 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You haven't mentioned that they:

a) are aware that their smoke isn't dispersed enough by the breeze / open space to be unnoticeable.

b) know there is someone close enough who isn't like them and other smokers, and is really bothered by the smoke.

They do, however, go smoke on their balconies since they were made aware smoking inside is bad for their roommates/family.

So, many of them are more likely than not reasonable people. They _could be_. While you _proved_ that you aren't, by not communicating it (or at least not mentioning it as if it isn't the most important reason why they are "awful people"), just judging them and holding a grudge.

In this very comment you again showed that you don't care enough to understand others who you might disagree with, because I am just rephrasing what I already wrote, since you replied like I didn't.

	▲	lazyasciiart 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		No, in my experience they smoke on the balcony because it is banned inside and will get them evicted.

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wingworks 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, it's a bit worrying that some people don't seem to understand that just because you enjoy smoking, doesn't mean the rest of the units downstream of you want to breath it in too.

	▲	its_ubuntu 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		What's truly worrying is that you don't seem to understand that just because you don't enjoy smoking, doesn't mean it confers any kind of obligation on anyone else's part.

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matheusmoreira 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> you just declare them awful people just because smoking is part of their lives

They're awful people because they are drug addicts who insist on making their unbearable smoke part of our lives too.

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its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I'll remember your hypocrisy next time I see you with the caffeine jitters.

Addict. Seek help, please.

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matheusmoreira 2 hours ago | parent [-]

I don't drink coffee. And even if I did, caffeine is not a drug that spreads to others in the air they breathe.

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its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> I don't drink coffee. And even if I did, caffeine is not a drug that spreads to others in the air they breathe.

No, it's much more insidious. It amps people up like crack cocaine or methamphetamine. It's a real killer--people have died from it. That's why the U.S. military absolutely bans caffeine use during basic training, for example. It's a really dangerous drug that should be controlled. The people pushing this poison should be behind bars. Think of the children.

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matheusmoreira an hour ago | parent [-]

I don't disagree with your general intent. Let's not put cocaine and amphetamines on the same level as caffeine though. Some drugs are orders of magnitude more harmful than others. Alcohol would have to be erased from human society before caffeine ever entered our crosshairs.

Also, you should remember my comment was about the route of administration. A drug you take is your choice. An airborne drug works its way into your system whether you want it or not.

	▲	its_ubuntu an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Fact check: false. Smelling the scent of cigarette smoke isn't harmful, and it won't get you high.

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lvturner 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I didn't "choose" to live in a multi-unit apartment, I live in Hong Kong - there is no other option.

"Just leave them!" Yeah. Ok.

Try empathy, it's free.

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its_ubuntu 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Your ancestors have had many opportunities to leave Hong Kong over the years. They did not, nor have you. If close interaction with people who have different values than you bothers you, then move. There are other places to live in the world besides Hong Kong. You don't have to wage war against your neighbors who are simply trying to enjoy a smoke.

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lvturner 36 minutes ago | parent [-]

"Just leave then"

Fine, I'll take the bait.

I moved here by choice, my "ancestors" have nothing to do with Hong Kong.

I also don't wage a war against my neighbours who are simply trying to "enjoy a smoke".

I still don't appreciate when my house smells of cannabis when I leave the window open and don't turn on the fans I have in the balcony.

My neighbours could turn on a fan to dissipate the smoke, they don't it's inconsiderate, but I'm not going to ruin their day over it.

Moving over this, does not make any sense, the whole argument of "If you don't like it then leave" reeks of ignorant entitlement.

YOU are part of the problem, not part of the solution.

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its_ubuntu 25 minutes ago | parent [-]

Weed smoke has a scent to it. So do a lot of other things. The nature of cities is you're packed asshole to elbow with other people. Some of them may be weed smokers. They have every right to partake in the sacred herb. It might be of benefit to you too, if you would allow it.

Here you are upset over a small thing like a funny smell that you have decided you don't like. The smell emanates from a powerful psychoactive herb that could teach you new things about life and reality. Maybe you should take advantage of it instead of demonizing it.

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lvturner 22 minutes ago | parent [-]

You make a lot of very strange assumptions about who I am and what I've done with my life.

And you'll note, I don't stop them, nor complain - I merely WISH they were a little more considerate in their partaking of the herb, I'd be less irritated.

Additionally, they don't have "every right" it's entirely illegal here, but I've no interest in calling the police over it - as again, I just wish they were naturally a little more considerate over their use of shared space than having a desire to punish them over it.

	▲	its_ubuntu 3 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> it's entirely illegal here A mafia figure pointing a gun in a man's face and demanding he act a certain way or else does not negate that man's natural right to partake of any plant he pleases, or enjoy any of his other natural rights as a free human. This plant is illegal everywhere, and has been for a hundred years. All mafia who are in control of any and all territories everywhere oppose the plant. If it were up to these people and their allies, they would eliminate it entirely from the earth, driving it to extinction and murdering, imprisoning, or enslaving every last one of its users. Yet in spite of the great risks and dangers, and all of the suffering and hardship and persecution that comes along with it, people have kept and guarded this sacred herb for tens of thousands of years, if not hundreds of thousands. What does that tell you?

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barbera7 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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