| ▲ | banbangtuth 16 hours ago |
| You know what. After seeing all these articles about AI/LLM for these past 4 years, about how they are going to replace me as software developers and about how I am not productive enough without using 5 agents and being a project manager. I. Don't. Care. I don't even care about those debates outside. Debates about do LLM work and replace programmers? Say they do, ok so what? I simply have too much fun programming. I am just a mere fullstack business line programmer, generic random replaceable dude, you can find me dime a dozen. I do use LLM as Stack Overflow/docs replacement, but I always code by hand all my code. If you want to replace me, replace me. I'll go to companies that need me. If there are no companies that need my skill, fine, then I'll just do this as a hobby, and probably flip burgers outside to make a living. I don't care about your LLM, I don't care about your agent, I probably don't even care about the job prospects for that matter if I have to be forced to use tools that I don't like and to use workflows I don't like. You can go ahead find others who are willing to do it for you. As for me, I simply have too much fun programming. Now if you excuse me, I need to go have fun. |
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| ▲ | llmslave2 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| I simply will not spend my life begging and coaxing a machine to output working code. If that is what becomes of this profession, I will just do something else :) |
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| ▲ | ryanobjc 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | If I wanted to do that, I'd just move into engineering management and work with something less temperamental and predictable - humans. I'd at least be more likely to get a boost in impact and ability to affect decision making, maybe. | | |
| ▲ | lifetimerubyist 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | Until you realize you're just begging and coaxing a human to better beg and coax a machine to output working code - when you could just beg and coax the machine yourself. | | |
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| ▲ | aspenmartin 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It would definitely be the profession if we stopped developing things today. Think about the idea of coding agents 2 years ago, I personally found them very unrealistic and am now coding exclusively with them despite them being either a neutral or net negative to my development time simply because I see the writing on the wall that in 6 mos to a year they will probably be a huge net positive and in 2-3 years the dismissive attitude towards adoption will start to look kind of silly (no offense). To me we are _just_ at the inflection point where using and not using coding agents are both totally sensible decisions. |
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| ▲ | lifetimerubyist 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hear hear. I didn't spend half my life getting an education, competing in the corporate crab bucket, retraining and upskilling just to turn into a robot babysitter. |
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| ▲ | yacthing 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Easy to say if you either: (1) already have enough money to survive without working, or (2) don't realize how hard of a life it would be to "flip burgers" to make a living in 2026. We live very good lives as software developers. Don't be a fool and think you could just "flip burgers" and be fine. |
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| ▲ | banbangtuth 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ah, I actually did flip burgers. So I know. I also did dry cleaning, cleaning service, deli, delivery guy, etc. Yup I now have enough money to survive without working. But I also am very low maintenance, thanks to my early life being raised in harsh conditions. I am not scared to go back flipping burgers again. | | |
| ▲ | Madmallard 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | "Yup I now have enough money to survive without working"
Your opinion is borderline irrelevant then. | | |
| ▲ | banbangtuth 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | Indeed, after all I am just replaceable dime a dozen software engineer like I said above. | | |
| ▲ | Madmallard 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | that part doesn't matter it's the part where you don't have to work that matters |
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| ▲ | dinkumthinkum 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I hear you but I feel like you (and really others like you, in mass) should not be so passive about your replacement. For most programmers, simply flipping burgers for money to enjoy programming a few hours a week is not going to work. Making a living is a thing. If you are reduced to having to flip burgers that means the economy will gave collapsed and there won’t be any magic Elon UBI money to save us. |
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| ▲ | agentifysh 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| having fun isn't tied to employment unless you are self-employed even then what's fun should not be the driving force |
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| ▲ | lifetimerubyist 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | "get a job doing something you enjoy and you'll never work a day in your life" or something like that | |
| ▲ | llmslave2 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | That sounds miserable to me :( | | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | you work on somebody's dime, its no longer your choice | | |
| ▲ | zem 15 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | it's your choice whose dime you work on. they can compete for your work by making it fun for you. | | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | sure unemployment is also a choice | | |
| ▲ | zem 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | fun work > tedious work > unemployment not sure why so many people feel like factoring fun into what job you want to take is so unthinkable, or that it's just a false dichotomy between the ideal job and unemployment | | |
| ▲ | throw-12-16 20 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | this is known as privilege | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 13 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | you are describing the ideal which is not a reality for many many people as it is not common | | |
| ▲ | zem 12 hours ago | parent [-] | | it's a trade-off; you need a job but you typically interview at several places, collect offers, and weigh them according to various criteria. all the pro-fun posters are saying is that "enjoy the job" is a very highly ranked criterion for us. |
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| ▲ | llmslave2 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's my life, it's my choice. |
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| ▲ | banbangtuth 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Why? It is a matter of values. Fun can be a driving force just like money and stability is. It is simply a matter of your values (and your sacrifices). Like I said, I am just a generic replaceable dime a dozen programmer dude. | | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | you dont get paid to have fun but to produce as a laborer a job isn't supposed to be fun its nice when it is but it shouldn't be what drives decisions | | |
| ▲ | banbangtuth 15 hours ago | parent [-] | | You mean it shouldn't be the driving force of your employer to make decision. Yes I agree 10000% I meant it can be your (not necessarily your employer) driving decision in life. Of course, you need to suffer. That's about having tradeoffs. | | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 14 hours ago | parent [-] | | almost all employers are going to expect you to use AI and produce more with it you can definitely choose not to participate and give the opportunity someone who are happy to use AI and still have fun with it. | | |
| ▲ | banbangtuth 11 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Indeed, please find others to do it, not me. | |
| ▲ | tikhonj 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | most organizations have awful leadership, sure but that doesn't mean you can't (or shouldn't) work around it | | |
| ▲ | agentifysh 13 hours ago | parent [-] | | have you tried telling your boss you won't use the AI anymore while the rest of the team uses it ? how do you imagine such conversation to play out im curious | | |
| ▲ | tikhonj 10 hours ago | parent [-] | | what I've done is avoid the sort of boss who would mandate AI use in a past job I did tell a boss that I wasn't going to be doing the whole tickets/estimates/schedule tetris thing, and that actually worked out... because the leaders I worked with understood the value of being flexible and trusting their lead engineers |
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| ▲ | throw-12-16 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | i think you angered the hustle bros | | |
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