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agentifysh 14 hours ago

having fun isn't tied to employment unless you are self-employed even then what's fun should not be the driving force

lifetimerubyist 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

"get a job doing something you enjoy and you'll never work a day in your life"

or something like that

llmslave2 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That sounds miserable to me :(

agentifysh 14 hours ago | parent [-]

you work on somebody's dime, its no longer your choice

zem 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

it's your choice whose dime you work on. they can compete for your work by making it fun for you.

agentifysh 13 hours ago | parent [-]

sure unemployment is also a choice

zem 12 hours ago | parent [-]

fun work > tedious work > unemployment

not sure why so many people feel like factoring fun into what job you want to take is so unthinkable, or that it's just a false dichotomy between the ideal job and unemployment

agentifysh 11 hours ago | parent [-]

you are describing the ideal which is not a reality for many many people as it is not common

zem 10 hours ago | parent [-]

it's a trade-off; you need a job but you typically interview at several places, collect offers, and weigh them according to various criteria. all the pro-fun posters are saying is that "enjoy the job" is a very highly ranked criterion for us.

llmslave2 14 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's my life, it's my choice.

banbangtuth 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Why? It is a matter of values. Fun can be a driving force just like money and stability is. It is simply a matter of your values (and your sacrifices).

Like I said, I am just a generic replaceable dime a dozen programmer dude.

agentifysh 14 hours ago | parent [-]

you dont get paid to have fun but to produce as a laborer

a job isn't supposed to be fun its nice when it is but it shouldn't be what drives decisions

banbangtuth 13 hours ago | parent [-]

You mean it shouldn't be the driving force of your employer to make decision. Yes I agree 10000%

I meant it can be your (not necessarily your employer) driving decision in life.

Of course, you need to suffer. That's about having tradeoffs.

agentifysh 13 hours ago | parent [-]

almost all employers are going to expect you to use AI and produce more with it

you can definitely choose not to participate and give the opportunity someone who are happy to use AI and still have fun with it.

banbangtuth 10 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Indeed, please find others to do it, not me.

tikhonj 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

most organizations have awful leadership, sure

but that doesn't mean you can't (or shouldn't) work around it

agentifysh 11 hours ago | parent [-]

have you tried telling your boss you won't use the AI anymore while the rest of the team uses it ?

how do you imagine such conversation to play out im curious

tikhonj 8 hours ago | parent [-]

what I've done is avoid the sort of boss who would mandate AI use

in a past job I did tell a boss that I wasn't going to be doing the whole tickets/estimates/schedule tetris thing, and that actually worked out... because the leaders I worked with understood the value of being flexible and trusting their lead engineers

throw-12-16 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

i think you angered the hustle bros

agentifysh 16 minutes ago | parent [-]

were these bots? so strange all green nicks