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Penpot: The Open-Source Figma(github.com)
272 points by selvan 7 hours ago | 35 comments
Alupis 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don't just have to self-host, they offer a hosted version that's far more reasonably priced than Figma[1].

Their free tier supports up to 8 members, limited to 10GB of storage.

The next tier supports unlimited members, and is price-capped at $175 a month, but is limited to 25GB of storage.

The final tier is price-capped at $950 a month, with unlimited storage.

[1] https://penpot.app/pricing

poly2it an hour ago | parent [-]

> unlimited storage

Surely it's not actually unlimited. I wish such claims wouldn't be as common in the industry.

walski an hour ago | parent [-]

Does it really matter if in real-world-use 99% of the users never hit any limit? And I cannot blame anyone to use "unlimited" instead of "fair use, with reasonably large limits so that you will (probably) never see any restrictions in your use of the product"

okhobb an hour ago | parent [-]

HN users want to know if you're allowed to host the whole Internet on it.

boriskourt 39 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Also, when it comes to UI elements this is my go to vector editor. Keeps things simple, has good ways of handling units and layout. A pleasure designing custom icons, or quick graphical elements. Plus a great export system to keep things organized.

There are many things you can do besides full app flows, it doesn't dictate how you use it. Really reminds me of early Sketch and how productive I was with it. Its wild that this is open source.

arcastroe 8 minutes ago | parent [-]

It is my go-to vector editor as well. But a large pain point is that text elements cannot be vectorized or converted to paths or shapes. So your designs cannot be exported meaningfully because there is no guarantee that the receiving end will have the same fonts you designed with.

Exporting to svg may look completely different when opened elsewhere if your designs have any text elements.

nullzzz 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It’s indeed a reasonably usable tool. Gets very slow with large canvases though, so don’t put everything into a single canvas.

WillAdams 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For folks who want a stand-alone desktop release:

https://github.com/author-more/penpot-desktop/releases

RamblingCTO 3 hours ago | parent [-]

That's a pity:

> Penpot Desktop loads the Penpot web application like a browser does. For offline use, the built-in local instance creator can set up and run a local Penpot instance via Docker (per the official self‑hosting guide).

v3ss0n 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Unstable, very crash prone with just a few users designing 10 plus pages. And a huge memory hog too.

I run it on Dedicated server with 64GB Ram , it starts to lag as soon as a 5-6 pages and memory 20GB, lagging out the whole team and then crashes.

SoKamil 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> very crash prone

> And a huge memory hog

On the server side or the frontend side?

shakna 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Figma is a huge memory hog, too...

mitemte 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Figma has become absolutely shocking in the past few years. The performance is so bad these days. It doesn’t help that almost every designer doesn’t care to split things into more than one document. I’ve seen Figma documents with hundreds of screens.

gyomu 11 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

> It doesn’t help that almost every designer doesn’t care to split things into more than one document

That’s how these tools encourage you to use them. If the tool crumbles under its own usage modalities, that’s because it’s poorly designed, not the user’s fault.

okhobb 44 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

I'm sure if the original developer bothered to show up again he could fix it in a weekend.

hbcondo714 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

First discussed here 3 years ago:

Penpot: Open-source design and prototyping platform https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32851262

1145 points, 128 comments

b3ing 6 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think Figma stole the grid layout idea from penpot, but it’s common in software to do that

Myzel394 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I tried to self host penpot a few months ago but the app would crash after a few minutes and not properly show the canvases. So a no for me

zonghao 4 hours ago | parent [-]

They seem to update very frequently; I don't know if it still crashes now — I'm planning to try it myself.

v3ss0n 3 hours ago | parent [-]

What i tested happned 5 months ago. if the issue exist 1 month ago too it is the same problem.

The problem lies with the whole thing is XML and SVG unlike Figma's Canvas/WebASM . The whole thing is unable to scale.

aedis 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Lunacy is amazing for me. Very fast and intuitive.

Tried Penpot, it was laggy and non usable.

rc1 2 hours ago | parent [-]

https://icons8.com/lunacy

Not open source however

barrenko 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Thank you both, had no idea about existence of lunacy (the app).

vsviridov 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Have been self-hosting this on Docker/Portainer for several weeks for a few people. Works fine so far.

boriskourt 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Penpot has been invaluable! A very nice system and team. 'On prem' Figma has a lot of unique possibilities.

cyberax 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do you support MCP? I really want to be able to do conversation-based UI design!

echelon 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I was immediately drawn to the emoji in the commit message titles.

I love this team. It's so endearing.

tyleo 5 hours ago | parent [-]

While I agree, I'm not sure it's a team, it looks like mostly one dude :)

jhancock 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Thats Clojure...one person can look like a whole team ;)

couldn't help being cheeky...actually there are quite a few contributors.

douchescript 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Yeah, finally some lisp!

pavlov 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Penpot is a startup that raised $12M a few years back:

https://techcrunch.com/2023/02/02/penpot-the-open-source-pla...

8organicbits 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I'm seeing several contributors: https://github.com/penpot/penpot/graphs/contributors

okhobb 43 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Figma is also one dude.

kekub 4 minutes ago | parent [-]

1.65k employees according to Wikipedia.

givemeethekeys 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

With the integration of AI, people are using Figma for more than just design.

A recent use-case that a friend was gushing about:

- Input notes, data into Figma and ask its AI to summarize it into presentation worthy slides with built-in games to keep meeting members engaged, and host them to a website.