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| ▲ | PaulRobinson 15 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | It's a little like "unlimited holidays". If you turn up on day 1 and then say "Right, I'm off on my unlimited holidays! See you never!" and disappeared, they would stop paying you. There is an implicit fair use clause in all unlimited offers - I know a guy who pushed back on "unlimited holidays" because he didn't want to get penalised in performance reviews and it turns out that in his UK-based org it was 29 days a year, or one day more than the legal statutory minimum. Firms like penpot are basically saying "look, if you pay us this much, we're not going to put hard quotas on you, just get on with it", but if you then try storing backups of annas archive on it, they are probably going to suggest that you are not operating within the spirit of the agreement, even if you're within the letter of it: fair use will apply. Some people like to know where they stand. They want hard quotas. So fine, ask them for hard quotas. Ask for the fair use clause and understand it. Most of us know what it means (it's a soft quota with fair use limitations), and are happy with not abusing the tier and having a bit more freedom, though. | | |
| ▲ | poly2it 6 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | The issue is that if storage is too cheap, people will inevitably mine filecoin on it. Additionally, promising "unlimited storage" and not holding that promise might be a legal liability. | |
| ▲ | noduerme 10 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Hah. I'm a self employed freelancer, but a friend works for (MegaCorp Intl) and every time we go for beers he mentions that he has "Unlimited Paid Time Off". But whenever I ask if that means he could take a few months to hike the Andes with me, he says.... well, no, actually they'd fire him if he took too much time. How much is too much? I ask. Well basically anything that would make them notice his absence, apparently. |
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| ▲ | tossandthrow an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | It likely is as it is not general purpose storage. Even though your Linux iso's are called "images", they can not be added to a penpot design file - sorry to say. | | |
| ▲ | kuschku an hour ago | parent [-] | | Can penpot import images? Given enough time, anything that can store PNG will become an automated backup backend |
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| ▲ | walski 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Does it really matter if in real-world-use 99% of the users never hit any limit? And I cannot blame anyone to use "unlimited" instead of "fair use, with reasonably large limits so that you will (probably) never see any restrictions in your use of the product" | | |
| ▲ | okhobb 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | HN users want to know if you're allowed to host the whole Internet on it. | | |
| ▲ | reddalo an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Creative people could start encoding terabytes of movies inside of Penpot documents. | |
| ▲ | tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | This is why we can't have nice things. People see 'unlimited' and will do everything in their power to 'fact-check' it, forcing the producer to place a 'hard cap' and making everyone's life worse. | | |
| ▲ | wltr an hour ago | parent [-] | | Don’t use the unlimited lie then, I assume. | | |
| ▲ | mnx 34 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | "starbucks says there is no limit on how many napkins I can use but they got mad when I took the whole container, liars" | | |
| ▲ | threeducks 5 minutes ago | parent [-] | | It might be socially acceptable to lie when everyone else is, but it is still a lie. Back in my days, you at least had to put an asterisk behind such outrageous claims. |
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| ▲ | tonyhart7 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | It's not a lie if no one is abusing it. Travel to high trust societies if you don't get what I mean. Things would be so much easier if we could expect human decency and ethics, even if there is no law against it, because it goes against our values as humans. | | |
| ▲ | threeducks 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | > It's not a lie if no one is abusing it. It absolutely is a lie, but you might live in a society where constant lying has been normalized. Personally, I believe that society would be better off if companies were held to the letter of their words. | |
| ▲ | twelvedogs 12 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Someone will abuse it though, so why bother with the bullshit You don't build high trust societies with lies |
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