Does it really matter if in real-world-use 99% of the users never hit any limit? And I cannot blame anyone to use "unlimited" instead of "fair use, with reasonably large limits so that you will (probably) never see any restrictions in your use of the product"

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okhobb 4 hours ago | parent [-]

HN users want to know if you're allowed to host the whole Internet on it.

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reddalo 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Creative people could start encoding terabytes of movies inside of Penpot documents.

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tonyhart7 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

This is why we can't have nice things.

People see 'unlimited' and will do everything in their power to 'fact-check' it, forcing the producer to place a 'hard cap' and making everyone's life worse.

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wltr 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Don’t use the unlimited lie then, I assume.

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tonyhart7 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It's not a lie if no one is abusing it.

Travel to high trust societies if you don't get what I mean.

Things would be so much easier if we could expect human decency and ethics, even if there is no law against it, because it goes against our values as humans.

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sallveburrpi 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Things would be so much easier if there weren’t a super small minority of extremely greedy rich and powerful people who ruin it for everyone…

Alas we decided collectively that money trumps(sic) everything so low trust society is the natural consequence of this.

At its core it’s a spiritual problem. Capitalism is cool but making it a religion has its trade offs.

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threeducks 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> It's not a lie if no one is abusing it.

It absolutely is a lie, but you might live in a society where constant lying has been normalized. Personally, I believe that society would be better off if companies were held to the letter of their words.

	▲	tonyhart7 an hour ago \| parent [-]
		Because that’s not a lie; under special circumstances, it can be true. For example, consider a restaurant that offers free rice refills because Asian people love eating rice to fill up. An employee working overtime who really needs it can get as many refills as they want. Of course, this system falls apart if everyone starts doing it, as the restaurant would need to bake that cost into the price to sustain the business. But my point is: you can have nice things in society, or you can have a dystopia where people take advantage of each other at every single opportunity. The choice is yours.

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twelvedogs 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Someone will abuse it though, so why bother with the bullshit

You don't build high trust societies with lies

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mnx 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"starbucks says there is no limit on how many napkins I can use but they got mad when I took the whole container, liars"

	▲	threeducks 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		It might have become socially acceptable to lie when everyone else is, but it is still a lie. Back in my days, you at least had to put an asterisk behind such outrageous claims.