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skeeter2020 9 hours ago

>> - Put a strawberry in the left eye socket. >>- Put a blackberry in the right eye socket.

>> All five of the edits are implemented correctly

This is a GREAT example of the (not so) subtle mistakes AI will make in image generation, or code creation, or your future knee surgery. The model placed the specified items in the eye sockets based on the viewers left/right; when we talk relative in this scenario we usually (always?) mean from the perspective of the target or "owner". Doctors make this mistake too (they typically mark the correct side with a sharpie while the patient is still alert) but I'd be more concerned if we're "outsourcing" decision making without adequate oversight.

https://minimaxir.com/2025/11/nano-banana-prompts/#hello-nan...

oasisbob 7 hours ago | parent | next [-]

There's a classic well-illustrated book, _How to Keep Your Volkswagen Alive_, which spends a whole illustrated page at the beginning building up a reference frame for working on the vehicle. Up is sky, down is ground, front is always vehicle's front, left is always vehicle's left.

Sounds a bit silly to write it out, but the diagram did a great job removing ambiguity when you expect someone to be laying on the ground in a tight place looking backwards, upside down.

Also feels important to note that in the theatre, there is stage-right and stage-left, jargon to disambiguate even though the jargon expects you to know the meaning to understand it.

CGMthrowaway 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>This is a GREAT example of the (not so) subtle mistakes AI will make in image generation, or code creation, or your future knee surgery.

The mistake is in the prompting (not enough information). The AI did the best it could

"What's the biggest known planet" "Jupiter" "NO I MEANT IN THE UNIVERSE!"

sebzim4500 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It doesn't affect your point but technically since the IAU are insane, exoplanets aren't technically planets and Jupiter is the largest planet in the universe.

MangoToupe 7 hours ago | parent [-]

I suppose it was too much to hope that chatbots could be trained to avoid pointless pedantry.

fragmede 6 hours ago | parent [-]

They've been trained on every web forum on the Internet. How could it be possible for them to avoid that?

throawayonthe 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

asking "x-most known y" and not expecting a global answer is odd

kridsdale3 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Every answer concerning planets is global.

bigstrat2003 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, this is squarely on the AI. A human would know what you mean without specific instructions.

siffin 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Seems like you're making a judgment based on your own experience, but as another commenter pointed out, it was wrong. There are plenty of us out there who would confirm, because people are too flawed to trust. Humans double/triple check, especially under higher stakes conditions (surgery).

Heck, humans are so flawed, they'll put the things in the wrong eye socket even knowing full well exactly where they should go - something a computer literally couldn't do.

emp17344 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“People are too flawed to trust”? You’ve lost the plot. People are trusted to perform complex tasks every single minute of every single day, and they overwhelmingly perform those tasks with minimal errors.

rodrigodlu 7 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Intelligence in my book includes error correction. Questioning possible mistakes is part of wisdom.

So the understanding that AI and HI are different entities altogether with only a subset of communication protocols between them will become more and more obvious, like some comments here are already implicitly telling.

rullelito 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Why on earth would the fallback when a prompt is under specified be to do something no human expects?

danso 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the instructions were actually specific, e.g. Put a blackberry in its right eye socket, then yes, most humans would know what that meant. But the instructions were not that specific: in the right eye socket

TylerE 8 hours ago | parent [-]

Or be even more explicit: Put a strawberry in the person’s right eye socket.

adastra22 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you asked me right now what the biggest known planet was, I'd think Jupiter. I'd assume you were talking about our solar system ("known" here implying there might be more planets out in the distant reaches).

CGMthrowaway 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would be amused to see you test this theory with 100 men on the street

jaggederest 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I would not, I would clarify, and I think I'm a human.

recursive 8 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

But different humans would know what you meant differently. Some would have known it the same way the AI did.

nkmnz 7 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, just like humans always know what you mean.

lifthrasiir 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That was a big problem when I was toying around the original Nano Banana. I always prompted the perspective of the (imaginary) camera, and yet NB often interpreted that as that of the target, giving no way to select the opposite side. Since the selected side is generally closer to the camera, my usual workaround is to force the side far from the camera. And yet that was not perfect.

0x457 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Right, that's why one should use "put a strawberry in the portside eye socket" and "put a strawberry in the starboard side socket"

iammattmurphy 8 hours ago | parent [-]

When it doubt, always use nautical terminology

Jabrov 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don't know if that's so much a mistake as it is ambiguity though? To me, using the viewer's perspective in this case seems totally reasonable.

Does it still use the viewer's perspective if the prompt specifies "Put a strawberry in the _patient's left eye_"? If it does, then you're onto something. Otherwise I completely disagree with this.

ComputerGuru 9 hours ago | parent | next [-]

“Eye on the left” is different from “the left eye”. First can be ambiguous, second really isn’t.

simonw 8 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I think "the left eye" in this particular case (a photo of a skull made of pancake batter) is still very slightly ambiguous. "The skull's left eye" would not be.

recursive 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I guess there's some ambiguity regarding whether or not this can be ambiguous. Because it seems like it can to me.

withinboredom 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

“The right socket” can only be implied one way when talking about a body just like you only have one right hand despite the fact that it is on my left when looking at you.

esrauch an hour ago | parent | next [-]

"Right hand" is practically a bigram that has more meaning, since handedness is such a common topic.

Also context matters, if you're talking to someone you would say "right shoulder" for _their_ right since you know it's an observer with different vantage point. Talking about a scene in a photo "the right shoulder" to me would more often mean right portion of the photo even if it was the person's left shoulder.

marcellus23 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I think the fact that anyone in this thread thinks it's ambiguous is proof by definition that it's ambiguous.

pphysch 9 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"Plug into right power socket"

Same language, opposite meaning because of a particular noun + context.

I think the only thing obvious here is that there is no obvious solution other than adding lots of clarification to your prompt.

withinboredom 9 hours ago | parent [-]

I think you missed the entire point?

swores 8 hours ago | parent [-]

No, they just disagree with you.

withinboredom 8 hours ago | parent [-]

How do you disagree with having a right and a left hand?

TylerE 8 hours ago | parent [-]

GP is using right as in “correct”, not directionality.

degamad 6 hours ago | parent [-]

No, I don't think they are.

If you are facing a wall-plate with two power sockets on it side by side and you are telling someone to plug something in, which one would be "the right socket", and which would be "the left socket"?

If above the wall-plate is a photo of a person and you are someone to draw a tattoo on the photo, which is "the right arm" and which is "the left arm"?

Same wording, different expectation.

TylerE 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Power plugs are not people.

ETA: and if I were telling someone which socket to plug something into, it would absolutely be from the prospective of the person doing the plugging, not from inside the wall.

simonw 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Neither are sculptures of skulls made of pancake batter.

minimaxir 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I meant to add a clarification to that point (because the ambiguity is a valid counterpoint), thanks for the reminder.