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| ▲ | com2kid 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Not having LinkedIn is ruining your chances. Candidates without a LinkedIn are going to come across as a scam in the very least, 90% of the time your application will just get tossed if you can't be found on LI. | | |
| ▲ | DwnVoteHoneyPot 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In addition to possibly being a scammer, some people found my resume to be less believable without a linkedin profile. One interviewer thought I was lying about my previous job title. | | |
| ▲ | Aeolun 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Why would it matter what your previous job title was? Why would I care if your previous job title was ‘Grand Vizier of Khyrgistan’? Can you do the job I want you to do now? | | |
| ▲ | kmoser 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | If your previous job title was "Doer of a Thing" then a prospective employer is more likely to consider you for a job doing the same (or similar) thing, as it shows you have prior experience doing a thing. |
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| ▲ | kulahan 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What? I just put “computer programmer” for every position listed on LinkedIn - why would that be any more valid? |
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| ▲ | codegeek 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Pretty much this. I know lot of people hate Linkedin but the fact is that if you are a job candidate and have little to no Linkedin, it's a huge potential red flag in today's world. Lot of scammers, overemployeds/moonlighters out there. | | |
| ▲ | throwaway1492 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | When I was moonlighting LinkedIn didn’t affect me. Every time I applied/interviewed and got hired for a w2 job, I just left my last non moonlighting employer on there, and checked the “please don’t contact current employer” checkbox. I hadn’t worked there in over a year. Didn’t my new employer want me to update my LinkedIn? That never came up, but if it would have I would have delayed. Why should I support their business model. | |
| ▲ | matwood 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Especially if someone has 25 years of experience as the OP said. |
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| ▲ | ComputerGuru 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I don’t have a LinkedIn and it has impaired my job hunts in the past but I always worry that creating one now (without the references of colleagues from decades of past work) would look worse than not having one? | | |
| ▲ | aunty_helen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Nah that’s not a thing. Get involved spend an afternoon setting it up and then it will suggest a bunch of people you’ve probably worked with in the past. They’ll be happy to connect and then it’s a good point to catch up and drop the “I’m in the market”. If anybody used to enjoy working with you and they know of something it, should be easy enough from then on. | |
| ▲ | dotmanish 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Majority of my LinkedIn contacts don't have any endorsements on their LI profile. It used to be a thing of the past - people don't seem to bother now. Go ahead and create the profile. Search and connect with your colleagues. | |
| ▲ | craftkiller 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Do people still do endorsements on LinkedIn? There was an initial flurry when that "feature" launched but I haven't been endorsed for anything for I think the past decade. Really the only things I do on LinkedIn are update my job history and accept connections from coworkers. | | |
| ▲ | ethbr1 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Imho, anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time. And arguably even a negative signal. Productive people have jobs to do instead of grinding Monopoly karma. Yes, this absolutely includes LinkedIn thought leadership. I know MS and recruiters love to push the 'it matters' line, but I'd ask the reader -- who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair? | | |
| ▲ | guiambros an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair? Who would you rather interview: someone who has a great resume, and a strong LinkedIn profile, and connections to a strong peer community who can endorse them, or a faceless rando that shows up in your inbox with a PDF, amongst thousands of others, with zero referrals? I'm not endorsing LI grind -- I too hate it, but ignore at your own peril. OP seems to be in a rather precarious situation, so maybe it would help being a bit less dogmatic. | | |
| ▲ | ethbr1 4 minutes ago | parent [-] | | LinkedIn referrals mean jack shit. As I said: > anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time Because everything on LinkedIn literally exists to be farmed. And why wouldn't it? LinkedIn's customers are recruiters. Users are the currency. OP would be better served by actually networking with their peers. Not in app-mediated (and -monetized) ways, but in normal social human ways. Sometimes it's like people forgot how to say "Hey, want to grab a coffee and catch up? What's been going on with you?" |
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| ▲ | MarkMarine 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | <3 I thought I was alone in this |
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| ▲ | acomjean 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Like the saying goes, the best time was years ago, the next best time is now. I hardly use LinkedIn, but it does show work history. As someone else said there was a flurry of “endorsements” but I haven’t seen many since. | |
| ▲ | wcarss 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | not a recruiter: I have never felt that recruiters pay attention to linkedin references specifically. You can also make one, add people, and then ask for a few references. "I just finally made a linkedin in 2025 on a lark" is a perfectly cromulent icebreaker/reason to ask. |
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| ▲ | ihnorton 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Seconding. These days I will rarely talk to anyone without a verified LinkedIn or other presence like a clearly inhabited GitHub (and I’m not looking for hyperactivity by any means) | | |
| ▲ | danparsonson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | But why? Those things are easy to game, and speaking personally, I don't have an online software development presence like Github because I don't spend my off time working on anything I feel is worth sharing. | | |
| ▲ | ihnorton 18 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Numbers. I’ve read thousands of resumes over the past few months, screened dozens of applicants, and experienced a wide variety of weirdness and fakes both in resumes and on screen calls. Please note that I’m talking about raw “application box resumes”. Referrals and other semi-vetted sources don’t get this level of scrutiny. I gave two examples of secondary sources, but what I really mean here is that the numbers and noise is so, so high now (not to mention staffing firm fronts and foreign actors) that I usually need more signal than just a solid-looking resume before even investing 30’ in a screening call. |
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| ▲ | radley 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > anyone without a verified LinkedIn Last I checked, verification requires people to install the app. No thanks. |
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| ▲ | drivingmenuts 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Well, that sucks. The one thing I hate about Linked in is being up-rated on my skills by people who barely know what I do and certainly have never worked with me in any capacity or even discussed my work in any sense beyond "What do you do for a living?". From where I sit, it's a tool for marketers and recruiters to gather data and it's otherwise completely useless. | | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | One of my pet peeves are people who don’t understand what I call “gravity problems”. You may not like gravity. But that doesn’t mean you jump off of a 30 story building and hope to survive. Whether I like LinkedIn or not is completely irrelevant. I play the game, add connections, post a few banal “Thought Leadership” posts, ask for recommendations, etc. My remote job at BigTech fell into my lap in mid 2020 and at 46 because an internal recruiter reached out to me, I got my next job two years ago within a week after I started looking because of targeted LinkedIn outreach. My current job also fell into my lap two weeks after I started looking because an internal recruiter reached out to me. It does absolutely no good being good at your job if no one knows it. I think even in the current job market, someone would give me a job or a contract relatively quickly if I needed one based on my network, LinkedIn profile, and positive impressions I’ve made in my niche over the past 7 years. | | |
| ▲ | Aeolun 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | None of your positive impressions are by virtue of linkedin though. Unless your profession is influencer I suppose. | | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | How else would someone know about me and how would I connect with them? I can change my status to “Open to Work” and have 1200 people see it My specific niche is strategy consulting along with hands on keyboard work for smaller projects and before that, I was hired at 3 separate companies by a new to the company director/CTO to lead initiatives. At that level it’s all about knowing how to “influence” and communicate. I’m not bragging, I’m old. I should have that type of experience and network. | | |
| ▲ | radley 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | > My specific niche is strategy consulting I think that's the key difference. For strategy folks, it makes sense to demonstrate this kind of work through that kind of channel. But LinkedIn posts aren't relevant for non-networking roles. | | |
| ▲ | sethherr 22 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | All roles are networking roles | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | The parent poster has “25 years of exp, director of engineering managerial/technical type”. He should be selling himself as a strategy person. In today’s market you have to be networking regardless especially for remote work. Even before I started doing the BS influencer mess, two of my last three jobs were based on internal recruiters reaching out to me. |
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| ▲ | rhetocj23 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | "It does absolutely no good being good at your job if no one knows it." Yeah and LI is a terrible way to show it. There is a better way, and will be a better way. With time. For now I agree - have to play the game. | | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | So exactly how was a company in Seattle going to find out about me in Atlanta if not through LinkedIn to offer me a remote job paying 50% more than i was making? How were the next two companies where I worked remotely going to know anything about me? What “better way” is there? | | |
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| ▲ | taurath 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Referrals are the only way right now. The front door is broken everywhere. I spent 4 years off and I managed to come back, but only referrals were worthwhile in getting me roles worth anything | |
| ▲ | selectodude 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hiring managers check you on LinkedIn 100 percent of the time. Not having a LinkedIn is a huge issue. | | |
| ▲ | jonny_eh 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | In 2025 it basically means you're likely a bot/scammer. LinkedIn provides the social proof that at least you're a real person, with real business connections. It's sadly not optional. | | |
| ▲ | metaphor 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree that it's not optional; in my book, a company mandating association with the degenerate cesspool that is LinkedIn as entry criteria for employment consideration is simply a non-starter, full stop. If I disclose an email address that's directly traceable to my current employer---or even one provided to me by professional organizations I'm registered with---as adequate "social proof" (whatever that means) that I'm not "likely a bot/scammer", and a company's hiring manager is too blind to see the signal, then I'd write that off as a hidden trap passively dodged with confident relief. | | |
| ▲ | groby_b 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | Good for you, you'll be a principled unemployed. Absolutely stupid advice for people who actually look for a job. You're participating in a social game, with well-defined signalling functions. If you'd like to actually have a positive outcome, you'll need to make use of the signalling functions commonly recognized, even if you don't like them. (Plus, opting out of a commonly accepted path with the reason that you personally think other signals are as good and the other side is just too blind to see them sends a large amount of information about your ability to collaborate in larger teams) You do you. There are jobs where you can get away with this, there are people with networks that allow them to play different games. But as advice to job seekers, it's actively detrimental. |
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| ▲ | mycall 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | any other not-optional sites to think about connecting with? |
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| ▲ | WarOnPrivacy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | > Hiring managers check you on LinkedIn 100 percent of the time. YMMV. White collar work here follows connections and introductions - nearly exclusively. A few of my clients might have poked around Linkedin in passing but most have never used it. As an aside, I deleted my LI because I've never had a legit contact thru it, only spam. source: 35yrs in IT | |
| ▲ | pluc 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I have to disagree. I looked for a long time before I found my last gig (that ended in 2022). I had a LinkedIn and it wasn't much different, it took me months to find something. I still have a linkedin account to look for jobs, but that's it. No connections, no work history. What's relevant is on my resume anyway so I don't see what having a regular linkedin account would do. I deleted it when I found that job because, even as a job seeker, I saw no value in it and as a user, I saw no excuse to defend it. | | |
| ▲ | sanswork 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | You've applied to 400 jobs and had 3 responses and no success to be blunt your option about what you need to do to get hired is worth zero. You refuse to change anything about your process, you aren't working to improve it, you are arguing against people telling them you don't need to do common/standard things. This thread is a pretty good insight into why you are failing and what you need to work on. | | |
| ▲ | pluc 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Like I said, i had a legit linkedin account before i closed it and it never felt like it did anything for me. I have changed plenty about my process, from cv iterations and reviews, ai assistance to cater to job posts in cv and cover letters, etc. Of course i think all the information is great, but i also have first hand knowledge and experience. If you think all that's missing is a furnished LinkedIn account then i can tell you that it isn't accurate - in my experience. | | |
| ▲ | ihnorton 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | LLM-driven application sites were not a thing in 2022 (used by both real humans and scammers). | | | |
| ▲ | milkshakes 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | to put it bluntly, the game has changed. what you knew from before is not correct now. if you keep applying your previous intuition and experience to a job search in todays market, you are going to be in for a hard time. |
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| ▲ | selectodude 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Well, keep on keeping on then. Sounds like you got this. | |
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| ▲ | yelirekim 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You are delusional if you think having a good LinkedIn doesn't improve your chances of getting hired... Maybe not for every job, but for many of them, surely. | | |
| ▲ | pluc 5 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I guess my experience hasn't shown value. I think people think of LinkedIn like Facebook - it only works if everyone agrees to stay hostage. I don't like the platform, I don't like that Microsoft is being all Microsofty about your data (have you looked at the new settings lately? That they added without telling anyone? Settings → Data Privacy → Data for Generative AI Improvement) and being a data-aware netizen, fuck linkedin. | | |
| ▲ | Aurornis 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | Hiring manager here. It's standard practice for every hiring manager I know to review the candidate's LinkedIn as an additional input to the hiring process. Not finding a LinkedIn page for someone can range from a neutral signal to a negative signal depending on the hiring manager. I personally don't read anything into it, but I know many hiring managers who feel that lack of a LinkedIn page is a negative sign. I don't like it, but it's how the world works some times. A seasoned LinkedIn page is also becoming very valuable for applying to remote jobs. Remote employers are getting nervous with all of the overemployed people and fake applicants. Having a mature LinkedIn page with a decent number of connections to real people is a major positive sign for remote hiring. It's not something you will be able to see or detect as a candidate. | | |
| ▲ | X0Rsyst 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I’m a manager in a cybersecurity consulting firm. I’ve hired half a dozen people for my team in the past year. I always check LinkedIn as well. If someone isn’t on it, the chances are significantly higher they are fake or trying be be “overemployed.” Does not having LinkedIn mean you’re not qualified or not real? Certainly not. Does it mean I will pass your resume over when sorting through a stack of qualified applicants? Absolutely. | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | 100% of people I know without a LinkedIn profile are overemployed. | | |
| ▲ | sanswork 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | Those people probably have very strong personal networks and a willingness to reach out to them for opportunities or a very high profile in their niche. OP appears to have neither. |
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| ▲ | WarOnPrivacy 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | > You are delusional if you think having a good LinkedIn doesn't improve your chances of getting hired... Maybe not for every job, but for many of them, surely. This isn't universal in every market. Business is very insular here and work follows referrals and introductions. You have those and you have work. Without them, Linkedin won't help. I'm 35yr in IT; I plug into my clients in a way that I learn their processes - inc hiring. Few white collar employers here use Linkedin. I've never worked with one who did. |
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| ▲ | james_marks 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | No connections and no work history, I would blacklist as spam. | | |
| ▲ | dzhiurgis 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | How do you ensure linkedin history isn’t falsified? I’ve seen all sort of false claims, but ultimately small programming task is best to sift out people. | | |
| ▲ | pluc 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Seriously. I could write 20 years of fake FAANG experience, connect with every rando posting AI slop since they just farm connections, and that would be better according to what i'm reading here. |
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| ▲ | mvdtnz 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I don't think you're in a position to arbitrarily disagree with advice. |
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| ▲ | BryantD 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | One small note -- what got you an interview before 2020 will often not get you an interview now. The market (as you obviously know) is much tougher. The last two managerial roles I've opened have gotten literally thousands of applications within the first week and it's harder to stand out. If you've done a few rounds already, there's probably not much incremental value, though. Absolutely ask for referrals. You gotta painfully get on LinkedIn for maximum effectiveness -- if you're looking at a company and an ex-coworker you got along with knows someone there, ask for the introduction. It feels awkward and weird but it increases your chances somewhat. | |
| ▲ | bix6 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Every job I’ve had came from a referral | |
| ▲ | scarface_74 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | If you are trying to get a job based on your resume and blindly submitting it to an ATS, you are doing it wrong. Every open req gets hundreds of applications and it’s impossible to stand out from the crowd. |
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