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com2kid 5 hours ago

Not having LinkedIn is ruining your chances. Candidates without a LinkedIn are going to come across as a scam in the very least, 90% of the time your application will just get tossed if you can't be found on LI.

DwnVoteHoneyPot 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

In addition to possibly being a scammer, some people found my resume to be less believable without a linkedin profile. One interviewer thought I was lying about my previous job title.

Aeolun 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Why would it matter what your previous job title was? Why would I care if your previous job title was ‘Grand Vizier of Khyrgistan’? Can you do the job I want you to do now?

kmoser 2 hours ago | parent [-]

If your previous job title was "Doer of a Thing" then a prospective employer is more likely to consider you for a job doing the same (or similar) thing, as it shows you have prior experience doing a thing.

kulahan 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

What? I just put “computer programmer” for every position listed on LinkedIn - why would that be any more valid?

codegeek 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Pretty much this. I know lot of people hate Linkedin but the fact is that if you are a job candidate and have little to no Linkedin, it's a huge potential red flag in today's world. Lot of scammers, overemployeds/moonlighters out there.

throwaway1492 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

When I was moonlighting LinkedIn didn’t affect me. Every time I applied/interviewed and got hired for a w2 job, I just left my last non moonlighting employer on there, and checked the “please don’t contact current employer” checkbox. I hadn’t worked there in over a year.

Didn’t my new employer want me to update my LinkedIn? That never came up, but if it would have I would have delayed. Why should I support their business model.

matwood 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Especially if someone has 25 years of experience as the OP said.

ComputerGuru 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I don’t have a LinkedIn and it has impaired my job hunts in the past but I always worry that creating one now (without the references of colleagues from decades of past work) would look worse than not having one?

aunty_helen 5 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Nah that’s not a thing. Get involved spend an afternoon setting it up and then it will suggest a bunch of people you’ve probably worked with in the past. They’ll be happy to connect and then it’s a good point to catch up and drop the “I’m in the market”.

If anybody used to enjoy working with you and they know of something it, should be easy enough from then on.

dotmanish 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Majority of my LinkedIn contacts don't have any endorsements on their LI profile.

It used to be a thing of the past - people don't seem to bother now. Go ahead and create the profile. Search and connect with your colleagues.

craftkiller 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Do people still do endorsements on LinkedIn? There was an initial flurry when that "feature" launched but I haven't been endorsed for anything for I think the past decade. Really the only things I do on LinkedIn are update my job history and accept connections from coworkers.

ethbr1 4 hours ago | parent [-]

Imho, anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time.

And arguably even a negative signal. Productive people have jobs to do instead of grinding Monopoly karma. Yes, this absolutely includes LinkedIn thought leadership.

I know MS and recruiters love to push the 'it matters' line, but I'd ask the reader -- who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair?

guiambros an hour ago | parent | next [-]

> who would you rather hire: someone who wow'd in an interview or someone with LinkedIn flair?

Who would you rather interview: someone who has a great resume, and a strong LinkedIn profile, and connections to a strong peer community who can endorse them, or a faceless rando that shows up in your inbox with a PDF, amongst thousands of others, with zero referrals?

I'm not endorsing LI grind -- I too hate it, but ignore at your own peril. OP seems to be in a rather precarious situation, so maybe it would help being a bit less dogmatic.

ethbr1 a few seconds ago | parent [-]

LinkedIn referrals mean jack shit.

As I said:

> anything past where you've worked on LinkedIn is a waste of time

Because everything on LinkedIn literally exists to be farmed. And why wouldn't it? LinkedIn's customers are recruiters. Users are the currency.

MarkMarine 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

<3 I thought I was alone in this

acomjean 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Like the saying goes, the best time was years ago, the next best time is now.

I hardly use LinkedIn, but it does show work history. As someone else said there was a flurry of “endorsements” but I haven’t seen many since.

wcarss 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

not a recruiter: I have never felt that recruiters pay attention to linkedin references specifically.

You can also make one, add people, and then ask for a few references. "I just finally made a linkedin in 2025 on a lark" is a perfectly cromulent icebreaker/reason to ask.

ihnorton 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Seconding. These days I will rarely talk to anyone without a verified LinkedIn or other presence like a clearly inhabited GitHub (and I’m not looking for hyperactivity by any means)

danparsonson 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

But why? Those things are easy to game, and speaking personally, I don't have an online software development presence like Github because I don't spend my off time working on anything I feel is worth sharing.

ihnorton 15 minutes ago | parent [-]

Numbers. I’ve read thousands of resumes over the past few months, screened dozens of applicants, and experienced a wide variety of weirdness and fakes both in resumes and on screen calls. Please note that I’m talking about raw “application box resumes”. Referrals and other semi-vetted sources don’t get this level of scrutiny.

I gave two examples of secondary sources, but what I really mean here is that the numbers and noise is so, so high now (not to mention staffing firm fronts and foreign actors) that I usually need more signal than just a solid-looking resume before even investing 30’ in a screening call.

radley 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

> anyone without a verified LinkedIn

Last I checked, verification requires people to install the app. No thanks.

drivingmenuts 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Well, that sucks. The one thing I hate about Linked in is being up-rated on my skills by people who barely know what I do and certainly have never worked with me in any capacity or even discussed my work in any sense beyond "What do you do for a living?".

From where I sit, it's a tool for marketers and recruiters to gather data and it's otherwise completely useless.

scarface_74 4 hours ago | parent [-]

One of my pet peeves are people who don’t understand what I call “gravity problems”. You may not like gravity. But that doesn’t mean you jump off of a 30 story building and hope to survive.

Whether I like LinkedIn or not is completely irrelevant. I play the game, add connections, post a few banal “Thought Leadership” posts, ask for recommendations, etc.

My remote job at BigTech fell into my lap in mid 2020 and at 46 because an internal recruiter reached out to me, I got my next job two years ago within a week after I started looking because of targeted LinkedIn outreach. My current job also fell into my lap two weeks after I started looking because an internal recruiter reached out to me.

It does absolutely no good being good at your job if no one knows it.

I think even in the current job market, someone would give me a job or a contract relatively quickly if I needed one based on my network, LinkedIn profile, and positive impressions I’ve made in my niche over the past 7 years.

Aeolun 2 hours ago | parent | next [-]

None of your positive impressions are by virtue of linkedin though. Unless your profession is influencer I suppose.

scarface_74 2 hours ago | parent [-]

How else would someone know about me and how would I connect with them? I can change my status to “Open to Work” and have 1200 people see it My specific niche is strategy consulting along with hands on keyboard work for smaller projects and before that, I was hired at 3 separate companies by a new to the company director/CTO to lead initiatives. At that level it’s all about knowing how to “influence” and communicate.

I’m not bragging, I’m old. I should have that type of experience and network.

radley 2 hours ago | parent [-]

> My specific niche is strategy consulting

I think that's the key difference. For strategy folks, it makes sense to demonstrate this kind of work through that kind of channel. But LinkedIn posts aren't relevant for non-networking roles.

sethherr 18 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

All roles are networking roles

scarface_74 an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

The parent poster has “25 years of exp, director of engineering managerial/technical type”. He should be selling himself as a strategy person. In today’s market you have to be networking regardless especially for remote work. Even before I started doing the BS influencer mess, two of my last three jobs were based on internal recruiters reaching out to me.

rhetocj23 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

"It does absolutely no good being good at your job if no one knows it."

Yeah and LI is a terrible way to show it.

There is a better way, and will be a better way. With time.

For now I agree - have to play the game.

scarface_74 2 hours ago | parent [-]

So exactly how was a company in Seattle going to find out about me in Atlanta if not through LinkedIn to offer me a remote job paying 50% more than i was making? How were the next two companies where I worked remotely going to know anything about me?

What “better way” is there?

rhetocj23 2 hours ago | parent [-]

ha, I cant say. Im working on something related to this.