| ▲ | enlightens 12 hours ago |
| The summary at the top of the page says > ABC said it was pulling the “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” show off the air “indefinitely” after controversial comments by its host about the slain conservative activist Charlie Kirk. but the article says the following, which is entirely different: > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. > > “In between the finger-pointing, there was grieving,” he added. |
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| ▲ | pogue 12 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| The 2nd part is the quote from Jimmy Kimmel that he said on air that caused the "controversy", that resulted in the FCC commissioner, Brendan Carr to go on a podcast and threaten ABC/Disney with retaliatory action if they refused to take Kimmel off the air. CNN doesn't show a clip, but explains what was said & the events that caused this. https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/17/business/video/abc-jimmy-kimm... Never believe those who claim to be in favor of free speech, but then use threats of legal intervention against those who practice it. |
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| ▲ | typeofhuman 6 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | [flagged] | | | |
| ▲ | cebert 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | This isn’t a free-speech issue. Kimmel was free to say what he said, and I personally don’t find his comments egregiously offensive. However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks. | | |
| ▲ | LeafItAlone an hour ago | parent [-] | | > However, clearly some people did. Freedom of speech doesn’t mean freedom from consequences. In this case, his employer responded to partner backlash over his remarks. Government officials also threatened to pull the government provided broadcasting licenses that the corporation has. That’s free speech related. | | |
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| ▲ | happytoexplain 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I think everybody is (reasonably) confused by the use of the words "anything other than". It's usually used in phrases that express the speaker's opinion to the opposite ("as if this is anything other than performative" means "this is performative"). Based on the clip, it sounds like Kimmel unfortunately used it literally: "trying to portray [him] as anything other than...", as in, "they're jumping the gun on his portrayal and blame placement", and not, "I know which team he's on." I could be wrong, but that's what it sounds like in context (and would make more sense too). |
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| ▲ | BrandoElFollito 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | This by the way is an example of construction that confuses is non English natives. Another one is "he was all but dead" which can be understood as "he was really in a bad shape, almost dead", or "he was absolutely not dead, as opposed to what they say" There are a few more like these (especially in short titles, where I have to analyze word by word the sentence to make sure I got it right) |
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| ▲ | Natsu 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I guess he didn't see the info that the police released? https://www.cnn.com/2025/09/16/us/text-message-tyler-robinso... |
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| ▲ | gsf_emergency_2 7 hours ago | parent [-] | | Family is staunchly republican, tho the perp himself went indy in the last few elections. Being gay doesn't say anything, Thiel's gay bf killed himself for what seems like political issues too (& might have been Indy like perp-- or, say sama) https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/news/2025/9/15/charlie-kirk-ki... | | |
| ▲ | mkfs 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | > Family is staunchly republican Because it's not like you haven't seen countless reddit posts from unhinged leftists railing about their MAGA family members (from whom they're often estranged), despairing about the quality of life in their red state from which they wish to flee, as if it were only marginally better than Somalia. | | |
| ▲ | gsf_emergency_2 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | I didn't want to be more specific, only quoting a reputable source verbatim; but you forced my hand :) Family is even staunchly Mormon, AIUI https://nypost.com/2025/09/12/us-news/who-is-tyler-robinson/ Leave it as an exercise to construct the bayesian model for ex-Mormons are: homosexual, leftist, etc There's a reason Mormons are sought-after gov employees*, but if we can't talk about that, be consoled by the idea that being leftist is treasonous *A level religious, above uh Luigi's sub-ethnicity, famous for its loyalty, shall we say | |
| ▲ | DengistKhan an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | I haven't seen any by unhinged leftists, however I have seen countless normal people tired of hate, authoritarianism, racism, anti-women, anti-science, and anti-infrastructure, and narcissistic tendencies by their parents, who are often MAGA or QAnoners. |
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| ▲ | gruez 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| > “The MAGA Gang desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it,” Kimmel said. Off topic, but has there been convincing evidence that the suspect is right wing/MAGA, as Kimmel implied? I've seen some posts on reddit to this effect, but they're far from convincing. |
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| ▲ | baobun 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | There is no such implication there. | | | |
| ▲ | throwmeaway222 12 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [flagged] | | |
| ▲ | DangitBobby 11 hours ago | parent [-] | | I'm not seeing much evidence of his political leaning (other than his choice of target, of course). Can you share some of this evidence? | | |
| ▲ | ars 9 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Only thing I've seen is that he was dating a trans M-T-F person, and that person was very cooperative with police. Although it makes you wonder about his gay comment engraved on the bullet. It's certainly not conclusive. | |
| ▲ | MacsHeadroom 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | From the murderer's text messages: > Roommate: Why? > Robinson: Why did I do it? > Roommate: Yeah > Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can't be negotiated out. Besides everyone around him testifying that he'd been left-wing ever since dropping out of college, his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left. | | |
| ▲ | LeafItAlone an hour ago | parent [-] | | > his admission that he found Charlie's relatively moderate speech "hateful" strongly suggests the murderer was quite far to the left Ridiculous conclusion. Empathetic Right Wing people can also have found his speech hateful. Have you actually listened to any of it? |
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| ▲ | burnt-resistor 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | There is little evidence for right or left ideological adherence, but there is for independent accelerationist blackpill from the memetic dog whistles. Accelerationists are essentially terrorists who want credit for mass destruction, collapse, omnicide, and suicide. | | | |
| ▲ | throwmeaway222 8 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | What is your honest belief. All of the things below are in the news, you can copy and paste any of these quotes to back that up. > "Robinson's mother explained that over the last year or so, Robinson had become more political and had started to lean more to the left — becoming more pro-gay and trans-rights oriented," the court documents say. > "She stated that Robinson began to date his roommate, a biological male who was transitioning genders. This resulted in several discussions with family members, but especially between Robinson and his father, who have very different political views. > Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga. > Rounds in the rifle were allegedly etched with messages like "Hey Fascist! Catch!" and lyrics of the anti-Nazi and anti-Fascist Italian folk song Bella Ciao. | | |
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