Some tyre compounds wear a lot faster than others (though often with better grip). I wonder if that's contributing.

The other thing is poor alignment (especially toe settings) which cause the tyres to fight each other constantly. It can be a very small difference, almost imperceptible but still accelerate the wear.

10k miles is very short for a tyre.

Often you can tell a lot from the tyre temperature after a drive: if they're getting very warm, it can indicate problems, e.g. if one axle has much warmer tyres than the other (hard to give an objective standard on that, though, so many factors)

I heard Kia Niro has the front wheel drive issue and the tires wear on the front very fast. So you should swap front wheels and rear wheels every year to get best wear result. I drive very poorly and fast, but usually mid-range tires last for at least 30k miles on different cars.

Either you're lying about your driving habits, or there's something wrong with your car.

I've got a Model 3 Performance which came with the Michelin Pilot Sport 4 tires which are only warrantied for 30,000 miles. I had them for 5 years and 35,000 miles and they STILL had plenty of tread left. I had to replace them anyways because I hit a nasty pothole that caused the tread to separate.

Are you driving fast(er than with a ICE vehicle) in corners? Since EVs have a very low center of mass, drivers tend to take corners a lot faster than they would in ICE vehicles which is very hard on the tires.

A friend got hit by this as well and since readjusting his driving style (read: not flying through corners for the fun of it) he gets more (but still not equal) miles on his EV's tires before he needs new ones.

I have the Hyundai Kona, which I'm pretty sure is just their version of the Nero (same 64kWh battery at least). I'm on my original tires after 44k miles.

The additional battery weight would be something under 250kg (having handled a few Leaf battery packs), and wikipedia says the Niro EV is about 1700kg

I'm sorry but I've got two EVs and I'm not seeing anything like what you're reporting. On my first set of tires for a model S I got 60k miles which is longer than I usually like to run tires but they were still in good shape. My driving pattern is about 80% grandpa-mode and 20% speeding to loud music.

I assure you. If your EV tires are only lasting 10K miles you have one of the following cases:

- You are driving VERY aggressively

- Your car has an alignment issue or some sort of torque vectoring problem

- Your tires are absolute shit

Perhaps do an advanced driving class? Assuming no mechanical issues the next place to look is your driving. 10k is way too low, something is not right.

Some EVs have low rolling resistance tires to increase the range. I think they will wear out faster, especially if cornering sharply.

The factory fitment LEAF tires seem to be made of cast iron, based on the unimpressive levels of cornering grip but also on their impressive long-wearing nature.

I'm likely to end up replacing mine based on age-related degradation rather than wear.

I too am UK based, but I have a Zoe, which is not as heavy as the NEO.

But my inlaw has a neo from new and hasn't replaced the tyres yet, and hes an auto obsessive. He lives in the midlands and drives 18k a year.

remember, your regenerative braking comes at cost of tire life.

If driving Tesla, you can reduce the regenerative breaking from Maximum setting to Medium.

this will reduce regeneration and will increase the "breaking distance" when you just let go of accelerator pedal.

but it will increase your tire life significantly.

also make sure to buy the "commuter tire" models - tires with high mileage warranty (50k miles+) and harder compound. Even if it wears out faster, tire manufacturer's warranty will make up for it by giving you discount for the replacement tire purchase

On that topic, Norwegians have been reporting that the piles of snow at the sides of their roads are noticeable cleaner since EV adoption took off.

Guess what comes out of petrol and diesel exhaust? Guess what color brake dust is. I guarantee the EV is going to be a lot cleaner.

It's not like brake dust is white...

Sure, but your personal experience could very easily be on the higher end of the distribution. You simply CANT confirm something like that based on personal experience. Either your personal experience lines up with some statistical fact or it doesn’t, either way, without the proper statistical context it’s borderline useless.

That or just slow down. I swear 90% of the people that complain of tire wear drive oblivious and are flooring it after every stop. Even a Kia Beri which what the parent has, has more kick than a ICE.

I don’t know what interleave means in your country but the way to measure tire wear is replace when tread depth gets below 1.6 mm.

Next time get tires with a 50k mile warranty, like Pirelli Scorpions.

The biggest problem for new EV drivers, in my view, is that EVs generally have extremely good traction control systems that prevent chirping due to the ability to cut back power to the motors much more quickly than you can with a gas engine.

What this means is that you can push tires to the absolute limit and not chirp them (which, is best for traction anyways) which absolutely roasts them. Most people associate chirp = too fast, but with EVs you can never hear a chirp even when you stomp on the accelerator so they might think everything is ok.

Nobody should be shredding a set of tires in 10k miles in any EV unless they’re super low tread wear (poor tire choice, hard to do that bad), there’s an issue with the car suspension, or they’re just being idiots.

My understanding is a model X is 20% heavier than a similar size mid-range suv like a telluride, which I would consider the same size SUV.

The Model X's curb weight ranges from 5,148 lbs to 5,531 lbs, while the Telluride's curb weight falls between 4,112 lbs and 4,482 lbs.

For tire degradation I believe it's actually something like the 4th power of the mass, same as for roads.

> Low friction tires wear slower, not faster, on account of being ... Low friction. Friction is what wears tires.

They're not low friction tires, they're low rolling resistance tires.

Friction relates to the grip, rolling resistance relates to the heat generated by the deformation of the tire. A less compliant, often narrower tire may wear faster than a more compliant wider one.

It depends.

"Tyres account for about a fifth of the energy required to power a car. They provide friction, so that the vehicle can grip the road, but some of the power supplied to the tyres is then lost as heat. Indeed, Michelin, a French tyremaker, estimates that this “rolling resistance” accounts for 4% of the world's carbon-dioxide emissions. Tyre designers have therefore sought to improve fuel economy by reducing rolling resistance. However, this not only reduces a tyre's ability to grip, making drivers take corners sideways, it also wears out the tyres more rapidly."

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Sure, but how big is your contact patch? They’re low friction for a reason.

All the people claiming EVs wear tires faster probably don't have the slightest idea that tires even have treadwear ratings. That coupled with the total uselessness of personal anecdotes...

Performance oriented EVs, just like performance oriented ICE cars, are going to have softer, stickier tires that wear faster.

It's only common because Tesla is popular. Other brands put reasonable tires on.