| ▲ | mmoustafa a day ago |
| Still ongoing, I haven't been able to access my personal outlook email for 12+ hours and as a result can't access my accounts that use email 2FA, including my virtual medical appointment! Along with the daily Github outages recently, it's making me do an audit of my dependence on Microsoft. |
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| ▲ | russfink a day ago | parent | next [-] |
| IRN, SEIM logs reporting a high incidence of telnet connections to port 25 |
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| ▲ | epolanski a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Still ongoing, I don't think I remember such a long outage! |
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| ▲ | carra a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Yet another risk of 2FA that most people don't realize. |
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| ▲ | dietr1ch an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Email and SMS are the most retarded 2FA in the wild. If the code isn't generated in a device you own, then you don't have control over it | |
| ▲ | jen20 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Only email. TOTP is working perfectly well, as are passkeys. |
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| ▲ | muppetman a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Bizzare. My self hosted email, which everyone told me was stupid to host myself has been sending and receiving just fine. Of course I haven't received a single email because every important email is sent via Microsoft but I still feel superior because I'm not affected |
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| ▲ | ozim a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Receiving is easy for personal mail I would say I receive 99% of the time. Sending out is harder but that 1% when I send something I need it delivered. Hosting e-mail for friends and family is harder and mostly what I would call stupid. | | |
| ▲ | haute_cuisine a day ago | parent [-] | | The solution is to send via some transactional email provider (aka amazon ses). |
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| ▲ | UqWBcuFx6NV4r a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Just don’t tell us how many nines you have, hey? | | |
| ▲ | Gud a day ago | parent | next [-] | | It is not difficult to keep a mail server online. FreeBSD(ZFS+jails old but gold) + postfix + dovecot. | | |
| ▲ | BSDobelix a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Ha nearly the same setup here, FreeBSD/ZFS/opensmtp/dovecot/rspamd And yes uptime (with short outages(updates etc)) is not that important for a mail-server, since the sender re-transfers in intervals (mine is 5min the 8 then 15 then 60 then 180 then something up to 2days) So the uptime for the service is 100% (maybe 99.999) over the last 8 years. | |
| ▲ | newsclues a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Mail servers are easy, getting the other mail servers (Microsoft,Gmail,etc) to play nice with yours is harder. | | |
| ▲ | BSDobelix a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Not that hard, for example thats a good tester: https://mail-tester.com/ and https://mecsa.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ (offline atm Azure??) | | |
| ▲ | proton_9 a day ago | parent [-] | | Getting a clean ip is hard. I have my personal email server setup and had to get it off of some black lists maintained by baracuda. Although i agree personal self hosted email is fairly straightforward and ideally more people should do it. Hetzner provides cheap and reliable vms. | | |
| ▲ | eddythompson80 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Reliable is a flexible word. Hetzner does frequent, albeit often brief, maintenance operations that would incur a down time on a high-throughput live service. Not impossible to design around with enough redundancies, but far from "I have one FreeBSD box that's been up for 467 days with 100% uptime" that people used to brag about in the early 2000s. I have few VPSs and bare metal instances that I just `sudo reboot` when there is a kernel update with practically "zero" impact or downtime for myself. Something unimaginable to do in a production system where you need to cordon, traffic drain, update, reboot, uncordon then orchestrate that across an entire fleet of instances with different roles and characteristics in a specific order. | | |
| ▲ | Gud a day ago | parent [-] | | Not relevant for a self hosted mail server.. | | |
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| ▲ | BSDobelix a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | >Hetzner provides cheap and reliable vms. True, i have some hetzner (not vm's but metal), and Vultr (just vm's), i just had one bad IP until now (i just changed it instead of trying to get it removed from a blacklist) | | |
| ▲ | proton_9 19 hours ago | parent [-] | | I should've perhaps done that, but i got an additional static ip from them which i pay for so i thought it would've been a good one, then getting off of the blacklist was easy once you have dmarc and dkim and spf.
So i kept it. |
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| ▲ | Gud a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | I found it to be fairly easy to be honest. |
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| ▲ | weird-eye-issue a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Uptime is not the hard part for self hosting email. | |
| ▲ | muppetman 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | root@mail ~ uptime
11:57:30 up 2114 days, 4:36, 2 users, load average: 0.20, 0.26, 0.61
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| ▲ | MrCzar a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I mean, I can't speak for him but I also run a small server and I think I just beat MS365 in nines because of this outage. | | |
| ▲ | wtch98 a day ago | parent | next [-] | | My phone has had a higher uptime than MS365 over the period from the last major 365 outage to this one, and that includes turning it off at the theatre | |
| ▲ | sandworm101 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | My non-mirrored Synology NAS full of movies just beat MS365. |
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| ▲ | sznio a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | infinitely many, so far... | |
| ▲ | wtch98 a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | Every time the cloud koolaid come in to defend the latest drop of a SAAS system from 99.9 to 99% they seem to think it's impossible to run a self hosted service with a better uptime. It's not, it's easy. We've been doing this stuff for years. Doing it at billion user scale is hard. You are not google. | | |
| ▲ | olyjohn 21 hours ago | parent [-] | | Maybe trying to do it at billion user scale isn't such a great idea after all. |
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| ▲ | ericmay a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | My iCloud email account is working just fine too. Security through obscurity ;) |
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| ▲ | afavour a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Officially Microsoft 364 |
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| ▲ | sekai a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Still ongoing, I haven't been able to access my personal outlook email for 12+ hours and as a result can't access my accounts that use email 2FA, including my virtual medical appointment! I guess software is still not solved, I'll let Dario know |
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| ▲ | busssard a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| its so funny, that service outages might help people get away from american hyperscalers. |
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| ▲ | pferde a day ago | parent [-] | | Nothing will change. Nobody who is in a decisionmaking position will learn any lesson from this. | | |
| ▲ | fancyfredbot a day ago | parent [-] | | If you take a big corp down for a day then decision makers definitely notice. I'd guess that almost every CEO affected asks themselves whether they should be so reliant on Microsoft. | | |
| ▲ | robot_jesus a day ago | parent | next [-] | | Given that MSFT is down just 1.5% pre-market after what surely must be one of their biggest outages in the past decade, no one thinks much will come of this. 1.5% is basically random intra-day fluctuations. | |
| ▲ | ABS a day ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | they didn't every single other time something similar happened so why would this time be different? | |
| ▲ | vachina a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | And then switch to what? Exactly. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere a day ago | parent [-] | | Stalwart hosted on OpenBSD? | | |
| ▲ | NetMageSCW a day ago | parent [-] | | Running what shared calendar, file and video meeting system? | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere a day ago | parent [-] | | Stalwart already has calendars and contacts. Zulip works great for Slack-style collaboration and has easy integration with many videoconferencing providers. OwnCloud is great for files and office-style collaboration. All can be integrated with LDAP. | | |
| ▲ | scottLobster a day ago | parent [-] | | Cool, let's just rip out existing infrastructure, retrain entire IT staffs on obscure products they've never touched and pray that they all just work. I'm sure someone in charge of a budget will just love the sound of that! | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere a day ago | parent [-] | | Nah, let’s just stay on someone else’s vibecoded infrastructure that we have no control over and see how that goes moving forward. | | |
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| ▲ | Caloric3002Swed a day ago | parent | prev [-] |
| You mean a Microsoft 365 account? Because "personal outlook" at https://outlook.live.com/mail has been working this whole time. Because I know people here are devs but you guys dont know IT lmao |
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| ▲ | ricardobayes a day ago | parent | next [-] | | This link is not loading up for me, and neither does outlook.office.com, it times out after a while. | |
| ▲ | MrCzar a day ago | parent | prev [-] | | It might work for you in your region. It is down in my region for some time. | | |
| ▲ | Caloric3002Swed a day ago | parent [-] | | Interesting because it was down here in Sweden. 365 that is Peronal outlook has been fine | | |
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