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▲ BSDobelix a day ago

Not that hard, for example thats a good tester:

https://mail-tester.com/

and

https://mecsa.jrc.ec.europa.eu/ (offline atm Azure??)

▲proton_9 a day ago | parent [-]

Getting a clean ip is hard. I have my personal email server setup and had to get it off of some black lists maintained by baracuda. Although i agree personal self hosted email is fairly straightforward and ideally more people should do it. Hetzner provides cheap and reliable vms.

▲eddythompson80 a day ago | parent | next [-]

Reliable is a flexible word. Hetzner does frequent, albeit often brief, maintenance operations that would incur a down time on a high-throughput live service. Not impossible to design around with enough redundancies, but far from "I have one FreeBSD box that's been up for 467 days with 100% uptime" that people used to brag about in the early 2000s. I have few VPSs and bare metal instances that I just `sudo reboot` when there is a kernel update with practically "zero" impact or downtime for myself. Something unimaginable to do in a production system where you need to cordon, traffic drain, update, reboot, uncordon then orchestrate that across an entire fleet of instances with different roles and characteristics in a specific order.

▲Gud a day ago | parent [-]

Not relevant for a self hosted mail server..

▲eddythompson80 a day ago | parent [-]

Isn’t that what I said?

▲BSDobelix a day ago | parent | prev [-]

>Hetzner provides cheap and reliable vms.

True, i have some hetzner (not vm's but metal), and Vultr (just vm's), i just had one bad IP until now (i just changed it instead of trying to get it removed from a blacklist)

▲proton_9 19 hours ago | parent [-]

I should've perhaps done that, but i got an additional static ip from them which i pay for so i thought it would've been a good one, then getting off of the blacklist was easy once you have dmarc and dkim and spf. So i kept it.