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▲ xianshou 2 days ago

If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.

▲dang a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's true of kitchen-ant comments as well: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

We have to figure out where this comes from! It's so recent: https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49828285 references https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535 - that's the earliest I've seen so far. Others?

Edit: thanks ChatGPT: https://barrypopik.com/blog/there_is_never_one_cockroach_bus...

Proverb #232 of https://www.asau.ru/files/pdf/2759983.pdf says it's attested from 1991:

232 There is never just one cockroach. (1991)

Variant: There is never just one cockroach in the kitchen

Ants are nicer though.

▲mandevil a day ago | parent | next [-]

Warren Buffet said the cockroach variant in his 1989 investor letter.

https://www.berkshirehathaway.com/letters/1989.html

"In a difficult business, no sooner is one problem solved than another surfaces - never is there just one cockroach in the kitchen."

▲close04 a day ago | parent | next [-]

My grandmother was using a similar saying long before that, translated approximately: "there's never just 1 mouse in the barn". I'd bet these expressions have been common across the world for centuries (maybe substitute for local rodent).

▲mito88 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"Inside every large problem is a small problem struggling to get out."

▲01HNNWZ0MV43FF 21 hours ago | parent [-]

Horsehair worms. Ugh.

▲jordanb a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Warren buffet didn't invent it either it's an old saying. I vaguely recall it from an insecticide commercial when I was a child but they probably didn't invent it either.

Not surprising its use has exploded in recent days..

▲gnabgib a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Possibly Nathan Calvin on Twitter in August: If you find two ants in your kitchen, the best estimate of the total number of ants in your kitchen is not two

August 5th about Open AI:

https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2084856543561093535

September 4th.. still about Open AI:

https://x.com/_NathanCalvin/status/2095854095139537064

November 11th.. Alex Lawsen on Twitter, referencing Nathan's post (above):

https://x.com/lxrjl/status/2120640689620861335

▲morganf a day ago | parent | next [-]

It's much much older. As a kid growing up in NY in the 90s, I heard many times the version of this saying, "one cockroach on the floor means one hundred behind the wall."

▲mkehrt a day ago | parent | next [-]

That's different, though. The point of the ant thing is sometimes things just happen, but if they happen twice, that's a very different matter.

▲mk12 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

These sayings also causes needless panic over non-infesting cockroaches like ectobius pallidus that commonly wander inside by accident.

▲gibspaulding 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I suspect you are right for the current flush. I know I heard it via Zvi's SubStack, but that was probably in a quote of Nathan Calvin.

▲Teever a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Completely tangential but I always find it interesting how different expressions become attached to specific contexts in people's heads.

"This old house as got good bones" is the realtor 'slaps roof of car' meme that seems to have caught on during the 2010s and peaked during COVID. Now I hear people mindlessly propagating it whenever they talk about renovating/buying an old home.

I'm sure that we'll be hearing this ants in the kitchen of the house with good bones thing forever now.

▲zippyman55 a day ago | parent [-]

I heard this in ‘93 when I bought a house. Also: I’m worried about the gophers in the back yard. (Taking my focus off more important concerns)

▲iwassayinbourns a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

This is my favorite HN comment of 2026. Thanks dang.

▲mmahemoff a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A 1985 Dallas Morning News article attributes the heuristic to "Sanders", as cited in a 2003 mailing list (https://listserv.linguistlist.org/pipermail/ads-l/2003-Septe...).

Fable 5.2 couldn't access the full DMN text (nor can I), but suggests the article is about "local TV journalists reacting to a report on minority hiring" and "Sanders" is probably a reporter named Bob Ray Sanders, a reporter in the region (who was later inducted to the National Association of Black Journalists' Hall of Fame). What he actually said is sadly paywalled in the archives.

▲DANmode 9 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Vaguely-related intrigue:

The word "myriad" is used on HN ~3-5x more often than places like Reddit, Twitter, since around 2011-2012.

▲thaumasiotes a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It makes sense for cockroaches, which make it their business to hide from you.

It's not even true for ants. If you find two ants in the kitchen, they were just there by coincidence. Ants aren't concerned with whether you can see them; if they're interested in something in your kitchen, they'll show up by the hundreds to take it away, and they'll be impossible to miss.

▲busymom0 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Aren't these similar to "when it rains, it pours" or "adding insult to injury" or "Troubles don't come alone, they like to arrive in groups"?

https://www.reddit.com/r/QuotesPorn/comments/9uu7wp/troubles...

▲throwaway198846 a day ago | parent [-]

They are more similar to "Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action" because they include explicit low numeric information

▲lovich a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Viral memetics didn’t disappear just because we got bots pushing narratives.

▲weinzierl a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

"The man who has fed the chicken every day throughout its life at last wrings its neck instead, showing that more refined views as to the uniformity of nature would have been useful to the chicken."

-- Bertrand Russell, 1912

Point is, if you find two ants in the kitchen it's worth to investigate if there are more. Blindly assuming there were more, like the original quote seems to suggest, will burn you sooner or later.

▲frankest a day ago | parent | next [-]

The chicken had long outsourced its brain to its owners. It didn’t have to look for food or fend off enemies for generations. Its food was provided, its safety was ensured by the owner. Leaving the yard would have gotten the chicken eaten by a coyote or a stray dog.

Even the dog guarding the chickens didn’t enjoy a better fate. At the first sign of illness, its vet recommended a cost efficient putting to sleep.

Those only useful, become discarded at the end of usefulness. Those only valuable can get sold or harvested. That’s why you have to be loved. Because everyone else can just upgrade their tools.

▲petesergeant a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> would have been useful to the chicken

As someone who's had to suffer through a lot of data visualization, unless the chicken is able to act on this insight, it's probably worthless.

▲mnw21cam a day ago | parent | next [-]

Well, I think that chicken would be quite happy dealing with the ants for you.

▲aesh2Xa1 a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Russell didn't make the dashboard for the chicken. The chicken is a data point.

▲thaumasiotes a day ago | parent | prev [-]

It's worthless anyway. A chicken who can see the future and act on it in any way that bothers the people around it is going to be killed, and better-domesticated chickens will be bred to replace it.

▲baxtr 21 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Induction is stupid.

But so is comparing humans to chickens or ants.

▲zkmon a day ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If you find a tip of iceberg above the water, there is an iceberg under the water as well. Maybe ants analogy is better.

Jokes apart, the leaders usually require almost the same mindset of a savage sailor who is on a mission to plunder the riches from the far away lands. They break the rules to the extent possible and exhibit highest levels of survival skills. Sometimes that mindset spills into personal life.

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▲fritzo 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

If the ant in your kitchen IPOs the same day you are evicted from your kitchen, the spies in your kitchen are not Chinese.

▲thehamkercat 2 days ago | parent [-]

ANThropic IPO pun? in this economy?

▲rvz 2 days ago | parent [-]

Can't spell Anthropic without IPO.

▲antonvs a day ago | parent | next [-]

Offering Publique Initiale

▲QuantumNomad_ a day ago | parent [-]

*Offre Publique Initiale

▲antonvs a day ago | parent | next [-]

Pardon my Frenchlish

▲pvaldes a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Seems more like an Offre Pubique Internationale in this case.

But now what? Will he receive a job offer from India, South Africa or Russia? I assume that he is free to live to any place of the planet that he wants if is not appreciated in US anymore, so what will be the collateral effects here?.

▲mrexroad a day ago | parent | prev [-]

Well that’s sure some backwards thinking

▲ShinyLeftPad 19 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's true for one ant as well, though.

▲Grimburger 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If you find someone who has never seen office affairs before then you are talking a sexless unemployed person

- Lao Tzu

▲bayarearefugee 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> If you find two ants in the kitchen, there are more than two ants in the kitchen.

And Jensen Huang may have had an improper relationship with at least one of them.

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▲sire-vc a day ago | parent | prev [-]

That's a sensitive place to get bitten.

▲bch a day ago | parent [-]

Yes - take it out of the kitchen.

▲shevy-java 21 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Youtube currently has some memes about Huang. One simple one (bit silly) was where his face was overlaid on the Austin Powers with the fook mi and fook you or yu; I actually liked the Austin Powers movie, but the overlay with Huang there was .... well. Cringey ... and quite silly. But still. It shows that people like poking fun about that. That resonates more quickly than other criticism. NVIDIA is always a meme. I guess they are happier with Huang-likes-the-women meme than the "we drove up the RAM prices and you can not do anything about it, you slaves!" or "NVIDIA won't work on Linux", which is still kind of true. At the least my NVIDIA card does not work well, the firmware is never recognized. We really need to get rid of these companies, but that's evidently not easy.

They are like a mafia sitting on top of everyone else and parasitizing from there.

▲jombib 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

listening to the verge?