| ▲ | chrisguilbeau 4 hours ago |
| I've bought several iMacs (2008, 2012, 2014, 2020) Anyway, it is frustrating once they aren't supported anymore. I think they are overbuilt, they are built to last forever but designed to be obsolete in 7 years. ChromeFlex has saved a few from recycling at our house (A chromebook with a retina display seems like such a waste) I suggest spending a bit more and getting a mac mini and a studio display instead (Equally well built but can be used almost forever). If you could only (easily) use them as monitors once they went out of support... |
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| ▲ | burner54828182 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| Agreed on the iMac, but disagree on the Studio Display. I own two 2022 Studio Displays and as beautiful and overbuilt as they are, it just does not make sense to own such an expensive 60hz display today. You can get a 144hz 5k 27inch LG for $800 now. Yes, Apple makes a $3300 120hz version of the Studio Display. Maybe it wouldn’t bother some but 60hz is pure agony at this point |
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| ▲ | saussianglat 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | why doesn't 60 hz work for you? | |
| ▲ | havaloc an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | They also have fans in them, that's not necessarily good for longevity. Thermally, yes, until the fans clog up or start making noise. |
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| ▲ | wolvoleo an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The older imacs at least had target display mode. That was pretty amazing so you could say least use it at a screen after it's useful life as a computer. Unfortunately they dropped it years ago. It wasn't very efficient on power and you had to use a key combo, I don't think you could make it boot straight into it every time. But at least it was there. |
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| ▲ | ProllyInfamous 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| The thing that makes older iMacs "disposable" is that the required cooling vents end up [mostly] blocked, within just a few years – then they thermally throttle, until death. If you open them up and keep them clean, they can have uses forever: ---- My 27" iMac (2009) still sits faithfully alongside my main 48" setup (because I own the copy of CS4 installed upon it – FU Adobe!). It mostly plays background shows (while I work on main computer, adjacent). My 24" iMac (2006) still sits faithfully on my tax desk, for its annual usage/filing. It also still plays Warcraft 3: Frozen Throne (quite well!). ---- >I suggest spending a bit more and getting a mac mini and a ... display, instead This is fantastic advice; my past two Apple's have been Mini's. My three main machines all connect to the same massive 48" display (that is about to outlast its first retired Mini). The only new iMac I would ever again consider purchasing would be something on-par with the iMac Pro (2017) – but in 2026+ any iMac would need a 32"+ display (minimum) to be "usable" IMHO. |
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| ▲ | mmmlinux 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Some of the old iMacs could just be displays natively.[1] it was just an odd ball feature no one used. [1] <https://support.apple.com/en-us/105126> |
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| ▲ | Tallain 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It's a real shame they got rid of target display mode. But then people would hold onto iMacs even longer. Today, you can use software like Luna or Duet, or native screen sharing to control an iMac from another Mac (or vice versa). I have a 2019 iMac, bought for pennies and upgraded after to max out; way better value than buying the display on its own or a comparable monitor alone. The screen quality is just great. I use it both as a daily driver and as a "thin client" for all my other machines with the software above. | | |
| ▲ | romeinaday an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | opendisplay - https://github.com/peetzweg/opendisplay - can make a old iMac's screen useful again. In my case, a 2015 27" iMac can be used as a monitor for my modern Mac laptop, connected via ethernet cable. | | | |
| ▲ | evanjrowley 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I wonder if Apple dropped it because of some proprietary licensed IP, such as Intel WiDi, making the feature possible. | | |
| ▲ | reverius42 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | They dropped it before the switch from Intel chips; my 2015 iMac could do it (I think) but my 2019 Intel iMac can't. |
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| ▲ | dubya 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I think this disappeared with Retina displays. I'm still using a 2019 iMac 27" and starting to think about Linux again. | | |
| ▲ | ryandrake 3 hours ago | parent [-] | | I've got a 2014 Retina iMac and a 2017 Retina iMac. Both of them run flawlessly but are now past Apple's support window. And third party software developers are mostly already adopting a "LOL we don't care" attitude about them. The hardware works impeccably, but software developers refuse to lift a finger to make their software run on them anymore. The Apple ecosystem is infuriating. With great sadness, I retired both of them a few months ago and am now running a boring Linux box with a pretty standard DPI monitor. I miss the Macs but their window of usefulness is way too short. | | |
| ▲ | reverius42 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | My 2019 iMac is actually great with Linux on it. It had some issues (built-in WiFi not working, sleep resume bugs) but Claude fixed them for me. |
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| ▲ | jmann99999 28 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Your point about them being overbuilt and built to last forever is spot on. Another way to repurpose these machines is to install Linux. I think people will find they are still snappy and supported. I like Omarchy because it is so different from what I am used to but still useful. Opinions on its creator (DHH) vary, but from an O/S perspective, I enjoy it. I am sure other distros are great too. |
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| ▲ | johnnywon 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I agree, the 7 years is way too short and it's very frustrating. |
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| ▲ | trollbridge 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Does “support” really matter? My 2020 iMac still performs great, although I use Sequoia on it instead of Tahoe. It also runs Windows or Linux very well and was easy to upgrade to 128GB RAM. My 2015 iMac is 11 years old and still works fine - I use it to run Windows 10 for the occasional thing that needs that and to test builds of software in High Sierra. It also runs Linux great. |
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| ▲ | Andrew_nenakhov 3 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | It does, because everyone and their dog started releasing software that only runs on the latest version of macos. So if you are not running the latest macos, you can't use the latest software version. For example, I used Sketch on my ond mac once and was quite happy, but then they dropped support for the OS version that mac was stuck upon. And since newer libraries resources etc all target latest version of Sketch, the version of Sketch I could run quickly became useless. | | |
| ▲ | GloriousKoji 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | The worst is when an application updates itself just so it can stop running and tell you to upgrade to the latest OS version. |
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| ▲ | 3form 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | The difference being that the M-series machines do not have good prospects in terms of running Linux well. As I would personally not want to run Windows for sure, this matters a lot. | | |
| ▲ | odo1242 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | It has better prospects of being able to run Linux than it does of being able to run Windows, to be fair | | |
| ▲ | pishpash an hour ago | parent [-] | | Why would that be? You're stuck on drivers either way and ARM Windows runs just fine virtualized. |
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| ▲ | xandrius an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Trying using a Mac on which you cannot install latest Firefox and see how your statement holds. That's one thing Windows is generally much better at. | |
| ▲ | usern20260720 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | I was happy but all of a sudden my VPN refuses to release versions for Sonoma |
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