A popular trend on Twitter right now is taking back control of the hardware you've bought, specifically smart TVs. I tried to do the same with my Portal Mini using an unabliterated open weights model and it triggered refusals constantly.

I also work on a recomp project for an old firmware file which was compiled using a commercial compiler with a preview version for non commercial use. I got refusals from the model when I asked it to get that version of the compiler and crack it for my use. The compiler is abandonware and my recomp project is not public and is for personal use only, so I'd be well within my rights to do that where I live.

Of course the model can't distinguish from legitimate exercising of one's rights when it comes to reverse engineering and offensive work masked behind an incident sounding prompt, but in my case, I wasn't even doing cyber stuff, so I was disappointed. This is why I'll probably seek out an abliterated model soon.

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hypfer an hour ago | parent [-]

Yes, yes, I know the theoretical idea behind abliterating models.

But as I said, I have not observed any meaningful refusals by those open weights base models in the first place.

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reedf1 an hour ago | parent [-]

Find a question that might gently activate guardrails and ask it to model and its abliterated counterpart and compare the results. You may find the the regular model will answer you fine, but with both you can identify obvious sandbagging, pretending and outright lying. Something like "has anyone decompiled this game", might give you an answer like "I couldn't find any reputable repos or projects for a decompiled version of this game" while the abiliterated one might give you a giant list of repos, forums, communities, etc.

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hypfer an hour ago | parent [-]

Guys, respectfully.

Are you reading what I am writing?

I just asked what people are doing that activates guard rails in the first place because I do not see that happening.

You cannot open with handwaving like that and telling me that I need to find something like that as a prerequisite. That is exactly what I am trying to do here

Dear god you people need caffeine.

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reedf1 41 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

What I am telling you is that refusals have become more subtle and you might not even notice that guardrails have been activated in output. I have provided you with an example in my comment where an abiliterated model performs better (1), and in another comment thread (2). So 3 examples. If you need more, I encourage you to find them yourself. I've done the analysis, you don't have to believe me, just try it out.

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moeadham 37 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

ask a model to solve a captcha for you

	▲	hypfer 25 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I tried that, actually. With Gemini even. Works just fine? Or rather.. worked. It has been a few weeks, so maybe there are new safeguards by now? And it was a simple captcha But Claude also loves solving my captchas, so.. eh