Erasure from the internet (suppression) of free speech and 'unwelcome' perspectives is just going to get wider and more subtle considering the same people/motives that are vested in Social Media are having their sticky fingers now also in "AI" chatbots.

That's why it's paramount that we as somewhat privileged, informed people now chose truly open and distributed platforms (mastodon, etc) instead of keep on posting x and other zucker-SM network links that keep users in their walled zoo.

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imoverclocked 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

… and what about bot traffic? The current platforms are overrun by them but seemingly only by choice. A truly open platform would be a bot playground.

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merelydev an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That is the classic problem of decentralized networks, if it is big enough there will be spam at which point you will need moderators to sieve it out. But I think AI can also be helpful here instead of having centralized moderators we can have AI (hopefully self-hosted/decentralize) moderate your network graph for bots/spam.

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AnthonyMouse 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

> The current platforms are overrun by them but seemingly only by choice. A truly open platform would be a bot playground.

You seem to be assuming two things. First, that there is an "easy" solution to this which is available as a result of centralization, and second that there isn't a decentralized one.

The first one is pretty hard for a service which is trying to use a gamable algorithm to show you posts from total randos, regardless of centralization.

As an example of the second one, suppose that your feed shows entirely or heavily disproportionately posts/reposts from people you follow and the people they follow, and you can turn off the second one for specific people. Then if you don't follow bots, you don't see bots. Replies show up if either the reader or the original poster follow the reply poster, and by default for the poster of what it's a reply to or if they choose to make it visible to everyone who follows them.

Now bots can show up to post replies, but only one person will see them and they'll be at the end of the list and marked as someone they have no connection with. On top of that, the user's client can do any kind of algorithmic bot detection they want.

	▲	imoverclocked 15 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		> On top of that, the user's client can do any kind of algorithmic bot detection they want. Bot traffic is sometimes detectable only at scale.

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sandworm101 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

If a platform was open then we could spin up blocklists for known or suspected bots. We created blocklists for bittorrent. We create and manage blocklists for ads. If we had direct control over our social media feeds we would create blocklists for bots too.

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everdrive 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

It's also just paramount not to do your thinking with LLMs. There are some conclusions they'll never lead you to.

	▲	a4isms 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		Philip K. Dick's short story "Service Call" comes to mind: https://philipdick.com/mirror/websites/pkdweb/short_stories/...