| ▲ | AshleyGrant 2 hours ago |
| No. "They" cheered when it was used to deplatform hate speech. Deplatforming people organizing a peaceful protest is very different. If you cannot understand how that is different, then I worry about your critical thinking skills. |
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| ▲ | vlyan 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] |
| was peaceful dissent about certain policies of 2020-2022 also "hate speech"? because, if I recall correctly, it was being suppressed with unprecedented zeal on every single platform. again, with applause. https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=0&prefix=true&que... |
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| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | Medical disinformation during a pandemic? These conversations often end up in some weird motte and bailey where you argue that you care about free speech, but it turns out that you actually just thought COVID was not real/not significant/not dangerous/not an emergency. So your issue ends up not being that they made a decision on it (free speech concern), but that you feel it was the wrong decision (content-specific concern). So before we go back and forth on the intricacies of content moderation, can you briefly describe your beliefs on COVID? | | |
| ▲ | zeroonetwothree an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I agree 100% with scientific consensus on covid but I also don’t support deplatforming based on viewpoint (vs content). | | | |
| ▲ | vlyan an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | and so the goalpost moves from "it's hate speech" to "it's whatever we unilaterally decide to be verbotten to speak about". | | |
| ▲ | estearum 36 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Well I wasn’t the one who said “it’s hate speech.” There are a number of things that get content-moderated. Hate speech, porn, bullying, doxxing, disinformation, Islamist propaganda, violent imagery, revenge porn, animal abuse imagery, incitements to violence, criminal planning, drug dealing, arms dealing, gambling, fraud, etc As a free speech maximalist, are you willing to defend all of those with the same vigor as the COVID case? Or do you too actually draw a content-based line somewhere (while pretending you don’t?) |
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| ▲ | adamrezich 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Both groups of people seem to harbor a lot of hatred, and they seem to want to express it a lot, so your distinction between what is and is not hate speech kind of seems to be based on whether you agree with it or not. If you find this interpretation to be uncharitable, would you care to clarify what truths this interpretation overlooks? |
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| ▲ | gadders 32 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Hunter Biden's laptop wasn't "hate speech". |
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| ▲ | estearum 9 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I don’t know of any leftie people who were “cheering” about anything in any direction as it pertains to the laptop story. |
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| ▲ | Whoppertime 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Who decides if it is a peaceful protest? |
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| ▲ | estearum 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | Ultimately the platform, and yes there are huge grey areas. I don’t think this instance lands in one of them and that’s why Facebook isn’t even claiming it does. It seems like you’re trying to avoid dealing with the substance of the issue for some reason. | |
| ▲ | amanaplanacanal 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | Usually local police if they are on the scene. If they start seeing violence, they start telling people to disperse, followed by tear gas and then rubber bullets. |
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| ▲ | krapp 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| They aren't trying to think critically, they're trying to ragebait and "own the libs." |
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| ▲ | marknutter an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Left wing speech is hate speech. Prove me wrong. |
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| ▲ | 49494959 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
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