was peaceful dissent about certain policies of 2020-2022 also "hate speech"? because, if I recall correctly, it was being suppressed with unprecedented zeal on every single platform. again, with applause.

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estearum 3 hours ago | parent [-]

Medical disinformation during a pandemic?

These conversations often end up in some weird motte and bailey where you argue that you care about free speech, but it turns out that you actually just thought COVID was not real/not significant/not dangerous/not an emergency. So your issue ends up not being that they made a decision on it (free speech concern), but that you feel it was the wrong decision (content-specific concern).

So before we go back and forth on the intricacies of content moderation, can you briefly describe your beliefs on COVID?

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zeroonetwothree 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I agree 100% with scientific consensus on covid but I also don’t support deplatforming based on viewpoint (vs content).

	▲	estearum 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		What’s the distinction you’re drawing between viewpoint and content…?

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vlyan 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

and so the goalpost moves from "it's hate speech" to "it's whatever we unilaterally decide to be verbotten to speak about".

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estearum 2 hours ago | parent [-]

Well I wasn’t the one who said “it’s hate speech.” There are a number of things that get content-moderated.

Hate speech, porn, bullying, doxxing, disinformation, Islamist propaganda, violent imagery, revenge porn, animal abuse imagery, incitements to violence, criminal planning, drug dealing, arms dealing, gambling, fraud, etc

As a free speech maximalist, are you willing to defend all of those with the same vigor as the COVID case? Or do you too actually draw a content-based line somewhere (while pretending you don’t?)

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vlyan an hour ago | parent [-]

what the platforms do is put "no porn" in the ToS, then turn a blind eye to the porn they like but apply talibanic definition of "porn" to things they dislike.

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estearum an hour ago | parent [-]

Do you actually read the comments you're replying to, or are you just picking a keyword that appears in the text and rattling off whatever comes to mind as a result?

	▲	vlyan 37 minutes ago \| parent [-]
		I've long since learned to identify demagogues and ignore them when they play dumb ;)