You deal with it exactly the same way as if any other club member or customer don't pay. Not by giving something like HOA an unchecked power.

HOA should be allowed to kick out member. And people should be allowed to not be members of HOA.

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tyrabound 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

You don’t seem to know how HOAs work. I’m not really a fan of how they currently work either, but you can’t just kick out a member when the legal “member” is the plot/home, and what would that even look like when you get kicked out, you are, e.g., still behind the gate benefiting from common elements. Do you get barred from, e.g., driving on the HOA owned and maintained street? Do you not get to enter the HOA controlled access gate?

Even if it’s a very low maintenance and amenity HOA on public roads, how do you resolve the fact that all the fees and costs have accumulated if the home were to be sold, you essentially end up at a similar end point where the home is sold. Usually these are also not individual circumstances, i.e., a person who has ignored all kind of warnings and letters and board meetings over usually years, also has many other issues going on and often they’re just letting the home go anyways and e.g., are just living there for “free” for about 1-3 years of HOA/bank legal proceedings.

	▲	watwut 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		I know how they work. I simply think they should not exist at all. Home is a property a thing. It is not a member. There is no need for "HOA owned and maintained street". You do not need HOA to maintain streets.

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gruez 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>And people should be allowed to not be members of HOA.

Just like labor unions (ie. "right to work" states), right?

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Loughla 3 hours ago | parent | next [-]

Those are two different things. The union negotiates pay and benefits. What does the HOA negotiate?

Also I'm a firm believer that if you're at a union shop and decide not to be part of the union you shouldn't be able to use their pay scales and should have to negotiate everything for yourself. The same with HOA's, I guess. If they do something for the community, like the pool the other poster talked about, then you shouldn't have access. Easy.

They shouldn't be able to take your house for any reason.

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gruez 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>What does the HOA negotiate?

At least in theory? Neighborhood "character" (and by proxy "land value").

	▲	Loughla 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My experience is they remove all character from a neighborhood in pursuit of bland stick and ball landscaping (tall yew, short yew) with too much grass in the yard that you have to waste water on and apply hazardous chemicals to, to keep it green and weed free year round. But also I'm biased.

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watwut 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

I do not see them as equivalent and I see the analogy as a bad faith analogy.

HOAs don't add value. All they are is an opportunity to power trip for those who have the most free time on their hands.

	▲	gruez 3 hours ago \| parent [-]
		>HOAs don't add value. All they are is an opportunity to power trip for those who have the most free time on their hands. I'm sure the people who support right to work laws would also claim labor unions "don't add value". On the flip side I doubt HOA supporters think they "don't add value".

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excannuk 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

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