Those are two different things. The union negotiates pay and benefits. What does the HOA negotiate?

Also I'm a firm believer that if you're at a union shop and decide not to be part of the union you shouldn't be able to use their pay scales and should have to negotiate everything for yourself. The same with HOA's, I guess. If they do something for the community, like the pool the other poster talked about, then you shouldn't have access. Easy.

They shouldn't be able to take your house for any reason.

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gruez 3 hours ago | parent [-]

>What does the HOA negotiate?

At least in theory? Neighborhood "character" (and by proxy "land value").

	▲	Loughla 2 hours ago \| parent [-]
		My experience is they remove all character from a neighborhood in pursuit of bland stick and ball landscaping (tall yew, short yew) with too much grass in the yard that you have to waste water on and apply hazardous chemicals to, to keep it green and weed free year round. But also I'm biased.