| ▲ | JohnTHaller 5 hours ago |
| The Tor statement doesn't mention the actual donation or party. Daniel Berntsson the co-owner of Mullvad, donated approximately US$500,000 to the far-right Örebro Party in Sweden. It's an ethno-nationalist party that is pushing for "remigration". From Wikipedia: "Remigration is a far-right concept referring to the ethnic cleansing via mass deportation of non-white minority populations, especially immigrants and sometimes including native-born citizens, to their place of racial ancestry." |
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| ▲ | Hitton an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| Despite your implication how is Oreboro Party far-right, wikipedia actually states they are: characterized as left-wing, right-wing, populist, nationalist, and conservative and: Ideology: Populism, Swedish nationalism, Left-conservatism, Anti-corruption, Anti-establishment, Anti-immigration Political position: Syncretic So basically everyone can (dis)like it for some reason... |
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| ▲ | jeltz 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Örebro Party is also pro-surveillance. |
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| ▲ | mmooss 4 hours ago | parent [-] | | That seems pretty significant. Could you provide some more detail or evidence? |
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| ▲ | raverbashing an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It's ok, everything Wikipedia doesn't like it calls a "far-right conspiracy theory" Like the issue of the grooming gangs in the UK |
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| ▲ | bstsb an hour ago | parent [-] | | remind me which race makes up 81% of prisoners convicted of a sexual offence in the UK? remind me what the home office said about which ethnicity “group-based child sexual exploitation offenders” are most commonly? | | |
| ▲ | ligne 23 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Well sure but have you considered that Der Stürmer's list of Jewish criminals shows a very disturbing pattern of behaviour by a certain ethnic group? Much to ponder. | |
| ▲ | hirako2000 35 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Hard to find numbers, but for England and Wales: As of June 2025, there were 1,731 foreign sex offenders in prison, making up 10.6% of all prisoners convicted of sexual offences. one can't establish a relationship between ethnicity and criminality anyway. The determinant variables are socio-economic. | |
| ▲ | dash2 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I think you need to have overall population shares in the denominator. | |
| ▲ | raverbashing 30 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Cool, now do per-capita |
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| ▲ | cubefox 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Wikipedia is heavily biased far-left on this topic. Their logic: taking in migrants is not far-left, but sending them back is far-right. That's called political bias. Of course they don't mention their huge crime rate. |
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| ▲ | ligne 22 minutes ago | parent [-] | | These days you can't even call for ethnic purity laws without being called far-right. These days, |
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| ▲ | 0xy 3 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Every single country on earth participates in remigration, it is not ethnic cleansing by any stretch, given the amount of white people being deported from the US, Europe and other places all the time. Europe has this absurdist political compass that calls any anti-immigration party "far-right", even when their official party platform is center-left or far-left in every single other respect (like Örebro's current platform of substantial expansions of social welfare program funding). Same is true in France, where you have a party with far-left socialist economics and anti-immigration sentiment that is bucketed as "far-right". |
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| ▲ | wnoise an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | Every country does deportation. "Remigration" is a neo-Nazi term that is explicitly a call for removal not by immigration status, but by ethnicity. We know what ethnic-cleansing looks like, and the horrors it both requires to do and eventually causes. "Government goodies, but just for people like us" is very much compatible with far-right governance. | | |
| ▲ | 0xy an hour ago | parent [-] | | I'm confused. Can you point me to the specific policy of this party, or other mainstream "far-right" parties who have a remigration policy that specifically excludes the deportation of white people who were not born there? ICE has deported thousands of white people under the current administration, for instance. Their removal operations are indiscriminate, not racial. Several white people (some from Canada, some from the UK, some from Ireland) have made headline news after getting picked up by ICE ERO. |
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| ▲ | BeetleB 3 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The US is not close to doing anything similar to what that party is calling for (e.g. advocating for deporting those born in Sweden). | | |
| ▲ | paimapi an hour ago | parent [-] | | We're closer than most people would like - https://theconversation.com/after-supreme-court-setback-trum... - see also https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/569 and https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/9633... That said, it isn't something nearly as drastic or categorical as these far-right, ultranationalist EU parties. | | |
| ▲ | 0xy 41 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Almost no European countries, and almost no countries in general for that matter, allow people visiting a country, or illegally being in that country, to give birth there and have that child automatically become a citizen. In Sweden, a child born in Sweden to a visitor or illegal immigrant is NOT automatically a citizen. You know where else that statement is true? Denmark, UK, Germany, France, Spain, Italy, Portugal, Ireland, Greece. Practically the entire world, actually. All the aforementioned countries REQUIRE legal status of the parents before the child gets citizenship status, even when born there. So when the administration 'attacks' birthright citizenship, they are proposing to bring the US in line with the majority of the world and the entirety of Europe. | | |
| ▲ | paimapi 38 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Incredible - that would make me an illegal immigrant because my parents had me while they were here on student visas and we wouldn't have been able to build the lives we had for the past 40+ years! What a compassionate and humane system, how refreshing. The level of naked ethnosupremacism embedded in European ideals and their constant barking at how the US is actually the most racist country is so very funny to me. If you rebuild the ship of fools plank by plank will it still dash itself against the reef? | | |
| ▲ | BeetleB 8 minutes ago | parent [-] | | Not taking a stand on either side, but your parent is correct. This isn't a European thing - but true in most countries. And yes, things like race are a primary reason (for good or bad). And yes, as my Spanish friend keeps pointing out: While the US has a large homicide rate, they can't beat the Europeans when it comes to pogroms, mass killings, etc every so many decades. Europe will be, well, Europe. |
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| ▲ | firefax 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] |
| >Daniel Berntsson the co-owner of Mullvad, donated approximately US$500,000 to the far-right Örebro Party in Sweden Thank you for naming the party donated to. It's a shame that refusing to consort with fascists is conflated with "being political". One of the reasons I left so called "civil" society is that for lack of a better phrasing I often found the tent to be too big. |
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| ▲ | MC995 5 hours ago | parent [-] | | > It's a shame that refusing to consort with fascists is conflated with "being political". It's because they are a political party, and he was donating to it. There's no better definition of being punished for a political opinion than being punished to donating to a legitimate party. And their not "fascists", it's a Swedish nationalist party.
Naming everything you don't like as "fascist" is a quick way to have your opinion dismissed as crazy. | | |
| ▲ | firefax 2 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | > There's no better definition of being punished for a political opinion than being punished to donating to a legitimate party. Maybe being punished for some political opinions isn't a bad thing, if your political opinion is "some people don't deserve human rights" :-) | | | |
| ▲ | deadbunny 5 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | How is he being "punished"? | |
| ▲ | lejalv an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Not giving my money so that it flows to an antiimmigrant party, having myself been an immigrant, is rather different from punishing. Only rich tech bros have this absurd situation where they are "punished" by a political opinion, because only they can meaningfully sway "one person, one vote" with their money. Are we talking about the political opinion of toilet cleaners who don't have the money to donate, or the energy, or the podcasts to express it? No. That's not an opinion that can be punished, it's just a non-event for many here. So let me not shed a tear for the political opinions of the Mullvad boss. | |
| ▲ | BAM-DevCrew 5 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | The Swedish party in question seems to hold a position on immigrants that is fascist due to their hostility towards immigrants. While holding a fascist opinion is allowed free speech in a democratic society. Speech that incites violence or hatred is not - generally. And TOR as well as most other civil and decent human beings have every right and perhaps obligation to opine that fascists suck and can f-off. | | |
| ▲ | iamnothere 4 hours ago | parent | next [-] | | They are not fascists, they are somewhere between “right-socialists” and left-populists, seemingly very close to Titoism. There is a substantial difference. Fascism calls for fusion of corporations and state and I haven’t seen that from them. They have called for socialization of energy, but that’s common among many left parties. I am sick to death of the overapplication of the word “fascism”. It doesn’t mean “bad thing”. Distinct words are needed for distinct concepts, otherwise all political discourse ends up like here in America where you have “liberals” who are not actually liberal and “conservatives” who don’t want to conserve anything. Edit: edited to reflect that they are probably a lot closer to Tito than Hoxha or Juche, after thinking about it. | | |
| ▲ | firefax 2 hours ago | parent [-] | | >I am sick to death of the overapplication of the word “fascism”. It doesn’t mean “bad thing”. So you admit they are a "bad thing", but you are annoyed I used the wrong word? | | |
| ▲ | mjburgess an hour ago | parent [-] | | The annoyance is that your personal judgement of "bad" is being wrapped up in emotional escalating language which equivocates, "I dont like this policy on immigration" with the history of genocide and total war in europe. |
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| ▲ | StanislavPetrov 4 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | >The Swedish party in question seems to hold a position on immigrants that is fascist due to their hostility towards immigrants. Advocating for controlling borders and opposing immigration is a legitimate political position, whether you agree with it or not. Those who describe everything they disagree with as 'fascism' are not credible people. | | |
| ▲ | lejalv an hour ago | parent [-] | | You're transforming "remigration" into "controlling borders" and "opposing immigration". But I agree the F word frequently doesn't advance political discussion. |
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| ▲ | bsoqk 4 hours ago | parent | prev [-] | | [dead] |
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