| ▲ | MarkusWandel an hour ago |
| I started taking a scoop of the Creatine Hydrate from Costco every afternoon because why not. Wife had bought it and the bag was sitting right there. I honestly don't know whether it made a difference. Sleep didn't get worse, no noticeable metabolic effects. Possibly the "perma tired muscles" I've been suffering from increasingly since about age 57 (I'm an active cyclist) have gotten a bit better, with <50% of days affected rather than >90% last year, but even that is subjective. If "taking the stuff" means "more uptake" (does it?) and there are other beneficial effects, bring it on. |
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| ▲ | BlackRabbit1 an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you start lifting weight at the gym you quickly will feel the difference: your muscles recover much better during the set breaks. |
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| ▲ | calmbonsai an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | I can concur on the short-term benefits for longer sets as well as the shorter recovery. Creatine is just one of those no-brainer supplements. It's safe, cheap, and long-term-study proven to be extremely effective. You will want to increase your daily hydration (at least for otherwise healthy men, a good sign is that you're "peeing clear") as Creatine does increase water retention. | |
| ▲ | peab an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | any recommendation for tendon/joint pain? I'm in my early 30s, and try to lift regularly, but my joints/tendons seem to be the limiting factor when lifting, and not really muscle tiredness/soreness | | |
| ▲ | philipp-gayret 38 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | As it's relevant to the sport I practice and just came back from armwrestling training I'd like to randomly comment: Armwrestling clubs have a LOT of people with tendon pain and injuries. The general approach to recovery and building tendon strength (beside lifting heavy) is to do static holds of 10 seconds+ of light to medium weight. Often paired with very large sets (50+ reps) of _extremely light_ weight; lifting almost nothing, just to get the blood through the tendon. You should not feel sore at all in either movement. The idea being that blood gets into tendons through movement. As for static holds; tendons expand during these static holds, so the idea is that they can then absorb more nutrients... Or something like that; I'm no expert by any means! In the bouldering community there has also been a bit of an uproar where Emil Abrahammsson (find it on Youtube) did very light static holds 2+ times per day for ~30 seconds if I recall correctly for great tendon strength, this also had some influence on how people train for armwrestling. This style was nicknamed "Abrahangs". | |
| ▲ | cyphax 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I doubt it, it's not the area where creatine is helpful. It'll influence energy provision which helps your muscles recover, and even be a bit stronger in general. I'm in my 45's but I don't experience tendon or joint pain while lifting (my numbers are not going to impress anybody though, but I do train pretty hard). Were I in your shoes I'd take a trip to the GP to try and find out what the source of your pain is. I am tempted to say I would also start taking creatine, but not if you're increasing your load as a result. | |
| ▲ | giardini 23 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Except for old injuries that never completely healed, you should not be suffering joint pain at your age. For starters, you likely should shift to lighter weights. A general rule is that, after 26, any muscle or joint injury you suffer will never completely heal. So - avoid injury scrupulously. Don't accept gym challenges (even your own). Be wary of odd exercises, machines, routines. Don't do anything hard at first, always start easy. Be lazy, build up and take your time: you have the rest of your life. Don't work out while under the influence of alcohol, especially when with friends. I avoid certain sports, e.g., any martial arts, soccer, football, even baseball, b/c the variety of situations(and consequent accidents) is so unpredictable as to be uncontrollable. Organized sports like sprinting, hurdles, gymnastics and high jump are risky too. - avoid over-stressing muscles and joints. Keep the cardio up - maybe try the gym classes with music (the crowd is better-looking and friendlier). - See a doctor if you suffer pain unduly. I anticipate "someday soon" cures for tendon/joint pain but I've been waiting too long to expect their arrival before I die! | |
| ▲ | anarticle 31 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | Isometric holds. Tendons grow slow and recover slow, generally not as much circulation as muscle. Big heavy holds will help encourage blood flow without stretching them / stressing them as hard as big lifts. It seems weird because it goes again ROM ideas, but it has definitely helped protect my arms for rock climbing as well as less fatigue in my legs for big lifts. | |
| ▲ | b112 38 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I'm going to get yelled at, but eat bacon. Fat is good for tendons. Obviously don't eat immense amounts, but if you're eating none, try eatong a couple of slices on workout days. |
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| ▲ | samuelknight 40 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It has a noticeable effect if you lift. |
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| ▲ | j45 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Creatine is one of the most studied supplements. It sounds you have the hardest part of it underway - consistency. There's lots of studies - if you can get over 20g per day it is noticeable to the brain and energy. Adding a few grams a week until you're up there I found it noticeable. 20-30g seems to be a noticeable range. Supplements aren't always like a coffee spike, they build up and sustain quite well. |
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| ▲ | Yajirobe an hour ago | parent [-] | | I thought around 5g is the recommended daily dose? | | |
| ▲ | kenhwang an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | 20g is a loading dose (typically for a week), then it's 3-5g daily for maintenance. But I've seen studies that 5g daily catches up to the 20g loading dose after about a month. | | |
| ▲ | sh-run 32 minutes ago | parent | next [-] | | Yeah pretty much this. I took creatine back in high school/college to build muscle mass. In those days we would load with 20g for a week -> then do 5g for 8 weeks -> cycle off for two weeks -> repeat. I'm back on it now for endurance sports (trail running + cycling) and the advice is to just take 5g a day and don't worry about cycling off. At 5g/day it takes 4-6 weeks to saturate your muscles. It does have a noticeable impact on water retention, so this year I cycled off six weeks away from my "A" race and lost 5lbs of water weight. It was a 100 mile mountain ultra so I thought the extra pop on the climbs probably wasn't worth the extra weight over the entire course (but probably was worth it while doing hill reps in training). Next year I'm sticking to shorter stuff where I'll run up more climbs. For those I don't plan to cycle off. | |
| ▲ | swozey 37 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | I've taken creatine for 20+ years, nobody does the "loading" dose anymore, or shouldn't be if they still do. Maybe it stills says it on the jars but there was tons of information a decade or more ago that it was deemed as a way to get you to blast through your jug faster. 5g is the normal dose. You're always taking in creatine eating normal meat added meals. This is giving me flashbacks to using bodybuilding.com forums.. man, long time ago. It is my 100% always buy supplement. I only have 2 of those now, protein the other. It absolutely helps me think better and feel better throughout the day. Noticeable when I stop taking it. And its dirt cheap. If I had more disposable income I'd have a few others but I went from tons of supplements to basically nothing. I never use PWOs or anything now, even when I do have money. | | |
| ▲ | kenhwang 20 minutes ago | parent [-] | | I haven't seen the 20g loading dose recommendation on anything recently either. Everything I've seen just recommends 5g/daily. My regular supplements that I've noticed made any difference is: creatine, vitamin D, and fiber. With vitamin C and protein being situational as needed. |
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| ▲ | j45 25 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | Not a typo, 20g+ a day. Dosing for gym exercise is different than dosing for excess creatine to reach the brain. Well studied, checked with my doctor, including for TBI. Obviously everyone should check for themselves. |
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| ▲ | j45 23 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] | | I thought it was too, then I started learning about how so many studies about Creatine were only in the body, and not the brain.. And then there were the discoveries of creatine in the brain in studies. |
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