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| ▲ | nilsherzig an hour ago | parent | next [-] |
| If you really wanted to optimize something involving living consciousness beings like a machine, at least you should consider things like the need to take a piss as a hard constraint and design the system around it. Don't get me wrong I love factorio like the next guy and understand the idea behind your thinking, but there should be limits to that thinking in the real world. And if that doesn't convince you consider the efficiency loss of a depressed worker with a urinary tract infection. Honestly - and I don't mean that as an insult - I hope for you to experience (just once) the loss of dignity that not being able to visit the restroom on your own decision will give you. Might make you realize the hell this kind of thinking leads to. |
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| ▲ | ang_cire an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| You've never been on a bus where the driver had to stop to go use the restroom? There is no prohibition against that. |
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| ▲ | structural an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Many bus routes are designed with stopping/break points, including limiting route lengths so that operators aren't stuck in these conditions. Yes, at 5pm in a major city, a bus driver might pull up next to a convenience stop, stop the bus, go pee, and come back. Does it happen often? Not that often, because of the aforementioned "we design routes so people aren't trapped for multiple hours" concept. |
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| ▲ | an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
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| ▲ | devindotcom 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| look man you might just consider not commenting about stuff you know absolutely nothing about. it's totally ok to just not speak up and use it as an opportunity to learn. |
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| ▲ | lokar an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Both jobs already need to be designed around some expectation for how often people need to use the restroom. If individual exceptions are not feasible, they design the job so that it works for everyone. |
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| ▲ | happytoexplain an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| What the fuck? Edit: Sorry, you're suggesting that it's OK to disallow a bathroom break that would inconvenience customers or cause a fellow employee to be unable to progress? That category of work culture should be unheard of in the USA, but it's leaking in, and if we don't viciously reject it, we might as well start the country over. If bathroom breaks are frequently causing some kind of unacceptable complication, then the problem isn't the bathroom break, it's the design of the position. |
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| ▲ | kotaKat an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Turns out depending on the metro they already solved that problem. Just let them piss. They actually do let bus operators randomly stop the bus at rush hour to pee in some cities. In Ottawa (Ontario), for instance, as long as an operator is within their 5 minute "late standard" window, they can stop and make a quick pee break or Timmy's break as long as they keep the bus in time. The busses lock down with a PIN when they get out of the seat (generated that morning at the depot) so you can't take it out of neutral anyways to try to steal it. https://www.michaelsuddard.com/2013/03/oc-transpo-condoned-t... (Best part is this old blogpost with someone cranky over the stop as well getting shown receipts by OC Transpo that their Tim's wielding bus driver that morning was in fact running on time based on GPS data.) |
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| ▲ | rlpb an hour ago | parent | next [-] | | > The busses lock down with a PIN when they get out of the seat (generated that morning at the depot)... How do drivers remember their daily PIN? | | | |
| ▲ | throwaway287391 an hour ago | parent | prev [-] | | > The busses lock down with a PIN when they get out of the seat (generated that morning at the depot) so you can't take it out of neutral anyways to try to steal it. Huh, it would never have occurred to me to raise the objection "but someone could steal the bus while the driver is in the bathroom!" Why does the bus need to stay in neutral with a special system of daily rotating PINs, rather than having the driver take their key to the bathroom with them? | | |
| ▲ | kotaKat an hour ago | parent [-] | | Transit buses generally actually don't use keys, amusingly. You pop the drivers' window open and reach in for the manual door release, then climb on board. The headlight switch is also the 'master on' switch for the bus, then you slap an engine starter button and off to the races you go. It's assumed you keep the bus stabled somewhere secure. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GtuUBEeTVg https://www.cleverdevices.com/products/secure-bus-access/ Clever Devices is one of the large players of the bus telematics industry and they just sit on the CANbus of the bus (heh!) and block the gear shift from being able to shift over it until you enter the PIN. If you've ever played with a bus simulator, OMSI 2's Chicago Downtown addon requires you sign onto the bus to take it out of gear, too - you just look up and see the post-it note with that driver's ID and PIN ;) |
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| ▲ | EarlKing 39 minutes ago | parent | prev [-] |
| Whether you're stowing, picking, diverting, or working the dock... you literally just grab someone to cover your position for a few minutes. That's it. There are process assistants present who can literally do that if they have to. There's no reason to deny a pregnant worker this except "This is making my day harder because I can't run my aisles at an absolute minimum head count and still stand around with my cart pretending to do useful work". The only real case I could see where grabbing someone to cover you while you take a bathroom break might not work is, for example, someone working as a yard marshal... since that's not something everyone gets trained for, so the pool of replacements is smaller (including among process assistants). So unless this worker was working the yard... there's not a lot of reason to deny them bathroom breaks... and that goes whether they're pregnant or not honestly. |
