| ▲ | aftbit 3 days ago |
| Remotely controlling or even accessing location info from a car should show a little popup on the infotainment system, if not live, at least when you park or next start the car. |
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| ▲ | apearson 2 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| This is already a feature in the software and has been for years. Anytime the car is accessed remotely a phone icon is shown on screen and you can click it to see what is accessing. |
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| ▲ | wildzzz 2 days ago | parent [-] | | It sounds like this woman just wasn't aware of the control he had over the car until the parental control message popped up sometime in the 12 day span. Since the article doesn't mention anything after those dates, she was likely able to gain back control. I certainly understand why people don't want connected cars but I can also understand the convenience factor. Yes, this amount of control over a car could potentially be used to put someone in danger (40kph on the highway isn't safe). But other than ensuring reasonable safeguards against speed controls on a highway, how would Tesla or any other manufacturer ensure convenient access to these remote features for the legitimate owner of the car? I guess one way would be to verify account information against an email or phone number that were used at purchase, only allow transfer of the remote control access by written authorization, and enable 2FA so only someone with access to the owner's email or phone can log in. I guess this still doesn't limit an abusive partner that simply just takes the victims phone or forces them to sign up using the abuser's information. And even so, is it Tesla's duty to ensure abusive partners don't abuse remote control? At best, they have a duty to ensure remote control cannot put the driver into a dangerous situation. Maybe they could have a local-only override code that allows an authenticated driver to temporarily cancel any remote control. Maybe all a remote user could do is reset the code but not be able to set a new one. |
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| ▲ | dylan604 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| I'm both surprised and not that this is not present. It took iOS how many versions before showing the icon when some app somewhere is using the location? These are the kinds of things that the system designers are so focused on getting it to work that thinking of protecting the users from abuse is just not part of the roadmap. It makes sense, except in today's times. There have been so many examples of systems being abused and examples of the solutions put in place that we don't have to start from a blank sheet of paper. Designers should look around at what is normal and start from there. Designing v1 with less features than everything around it is just lazy |
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| ▲ | iAMkenough 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| It’d take the form of a disclaimer that you eventually tune out because it appears every single time you start the car because Nissan wants to sell data about you. |
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| ▲ | kotaKat 2 days ago | parent [-] | | Ford takes that approach. Every time you hop in one with the location/telemetry services on it gives you a big distracting "Location and connected vehicle/usage data collection active" message. |
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| ▲ | freeone3000 2 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Okay. It’s now visible. Now what? You still can’t do anything about it. |
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| ▲ | aftbit 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I'd assume there would be a popup that says in clear terms "Device XYZ was used to view your location" or whatever, and a button you could click that let you see all linked devices and kick them from your account. IMO cars shouldn't have parental controls. If you had your kid the keys, you're giving them control. It's one of the first seriously adult things kids are trusted to do, and that trust should not be partial. Whoever holds the keys owns the car. If it's stolen, that can go through a court. Otherwise, remote control should be subservient to whoever is actually in the driver's seat. | |
| ▲ | Rygian 2 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | You go to the settings in the car screen and remove that device from the list of authorized devices. |
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