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layer8 an hour ago

Maybe they want to avoid the ambiguity between john.doe.name versus john-doe.name, and I assume they prefer the latter scheme because it probably sells better. Nevertheless, discontinuing existing domains is disgraceful.

xp84 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

Even that doesn't pass basic scrutiny. The same ambiguity can and always will exist with tim-apple.com and tim.apple.com - there's nothing here that needs fixing.

layer8 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

True, they can’t outright prevent the ambiguity, but much fewer people will go to the trouble of establishing such subdomains when the option isn’t directly offered by the registrar.

This is my theory because, a priori, 3LDs should be more profitable than 2LDs, because with 3LDs John Doe and Jane Doe don’t have to compete over doe.name, but instead can each separately purchase john.doe.name and jane.doe.name. Apparently, however, that’s not a benefit of 3LDs in practice, which leads me to conclude that john-doe.name and jane-doe.name just sell better.

dpoloncsak an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I can say, as a SysAdmin, I have been taught and tell my users to check the domain to verify a website is real.

It's a strange edgecase that the owner of John.Doe.com does not need to own Doe.com

In every other case that I know about, to own the Joe subdomain of Doe.com, you would need to own Doe.com

dbt00 an hour ago | parent | next [-]

That is definitely not true. There are literally thousands if not tens of thousands of well known domains that do this. .co.uk is a very common example.

ndiddy 9 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

.name is still a weird edge case because of the naming rules. Whether or not all subdomains under doe.name belong to the same person depends solely on whether the first person registered "doe.name" (in which case they do) or "john.doe.name" (in which case they don't, and "doe.name" is excluded from purchase as a standalone domain).

davkan 43 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I can’t think of any prominent ones outside of country code domains.

bombcar 27 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

You can almost guess someone's age from that alone - they're more rare, but long domain names still appear that encode a city and a state, and you could just "grab" the first part when signing up.

ketzu 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Github Pages is probably the most well known one (on here).

I think geocities had this as well?

A lot of hosting services offer this in general. (eg render)

Tumblr? (Might not count as the control over the page is more limited. The subdomains "are" still tumblr.)

For reddits subdomains are redirects to subreddits of the same name, so I guess that doesn't count.

davkan 7 minutes ago | parent [-]

None of these examples are of actual separate registration/ownership of a 3LD from the parent 2LD. Cloudflare owns the domain for myproject.pages.dev and hosts all the relevant infra. Not to say that there isn't a different entity represented by the 3LD than the 2LD but it's not exactly the same.

Also I would not consider the examples of tumblr and reddit to be relevant. A person's blog on myprofile.tumblr.org is still the tumblr organization. This would be true for reddit even if they didn't redirect. Reddit admins moderate content on all subreddits.

desas an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

I think the problem is that .co.uk, .gov.uk and so on are very well known in the UK.

The .name subdomain rules are not very well known anywhere.

veltas 20 minutes ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yet that is a problem the owner of such a domain has freely entered into by buying that domain, it's their right to keep it despite this apparent problem, if they wish.

gapan an hour ago | parent | prev [-]

There are still exceptions to this like .co.uk and many others.

joemi 19 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

Was it even possible to register just a second level .name domain name? It sounds like it wasn't, so therefore no one would be using john-doe.name and there'd be no ambiguity.

anttihaapala 13 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

Yes it has been. I have had a second level .name for 20 years.

WesolyKubeczek 14 minutes ago | parent | prev [-]

It was, I have one.