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These companies absolutely do have people who's job it is to sit on social media and promote these products, its marketing 101

com2kid a day ago | parent | next [-]

Having worked at multiple large companies more often than not the truth is there are 5 levels of approval for every tweet that goes out and writing a single blog post can take months.

The smart companies out source their gorilla marketing to a third party, having realized their own inadequacies.

SturgeonsLaw a day ago | parent | next [-]

The problem with outsourcing your gorilla marketing is that it can cost big bananas with a hard to quantify return

MikeNotThePope 13 hours ago | parent | next [-]

I remember talking to a person who worked in marketing Kingsford, which at the time had like over 90% of the marketshare for USA charcoal. They had a marketing budget that was willing to spend money on any ol' stupid idea because they had already won & just wanted to stay on top by getting their name out there.

simonh 19 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Guerilla marketing, but never mind, worth it for the bananas joke.

krustyburger 12 hours ago | parent [-]

The original comment had the typo.

simonh 6 hours ago | parent [-]

It not the bananas joke.

anticorporate 15 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

I worked in community marketing for few rather large software companies. The struggle is real. Almost every CMO I worked for seemed to make it their mission to squeeze any life out of social conversation with actual users and replace it with bland, boring "on message" communication about synergies for leveraging pivots enabling disruption at enterprise scale.

TallGuyShort 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

For every Tweet that goes out on the company account and every blog on the company blog. But that's not what we're talking about here - we're talking about vague sources like low-impact social media snippets getting cited on low-reputation blogs until someone more reputable comments on the apparent trend. There are absolutely marketing people who do that "unofficially".

jasonvorhe 16 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Different ballpark. Original comment is about shadier methods of marketing not official stuff landing on the primary domain of Apple. I have 1st knowledge of a travel tech company laying off their entire marketing team during COVID that then got hired by a brand new company to find different and riskier approaches on how to keep the funnel alive despite the travel restrictions without direct risk of exposure for the brand.

okokko 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Tbf comment you replied to never said they were direct hires. Outsourced workers sitting around is possible. You seem to have customized their more general statement

Can confirm though, being acquainted with PR people in the field for >20 years; everything on TV is scripted these days.

Chatted with some of my PR friends coworkers over the years at Christmas parties and the like. They claimed stunts during MTV specials, other "candid" moments from the last 20-25 well known to pop culture were actually organized by a PR company they worked at (never that they worked on that project; such work was reserved for whatever PR rockstar PR firm hired)

But all this too could be PR sales pitch to impress; society is full of hearsay to titillate

nullbio 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

That only applies to tweets that are published on behalf of the company, not tweets from sockpuppet accounts that have no direct connection to the company and are made to look like a regular consumer.

saberience 12 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

It's Guerrilla Marketing. It comes from guerrilla warfare, not gorillas the large ape.

shwaj 12 hours ago | parent [-]

It was a joke referencing the typo in the message they responded to.

benatkin 11 hours ago | parent [-]

Not in this thread, the joke is in an aunt comment.

kakacik 16 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah and why they outsource that? First is effectiveness of reach as you mention. Second is the ability to have a clean official record.

Wake me up when an extremely capitalistic company, in the past caught with dirty hands on numerous topics, will reject increasing massively a legal revenue stream with no strings attached. Right, exactly how to become a trillion dollar company and keep it.

I grok that specifically for apple their echo chambers do majority of certain work themselves, but claiming with 100% confidence thats all is a bit of a stretch. If I was a personal close friend with their head of marketing, I would maybe believe that. In any other case, hard logic prevails over anonymous online claims.

gwerbin 11 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Or they hire an agency and the agency does all the gray-hat stuff, and apart from the marketing person who hired the agency most of the company probably has no idea what the agency is up to.

coldtea 14 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

They have social media PR people and influencer shills and all that.

But not for such niche products and such niche use cases.

To promote the latest airpods or iphone, yes.

postexitus 18 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Yeah, through multiple layers of approvals. Not shtposting on hacker news.

bluGill 15 hours ago | parent | next [-]

It is multiple layers of approval, but there is no reason to think they wouldn't approve this. At least not from the limited information I have. The approval is about covering themselves, so if they won't get sued (either because it is legal or they can cover their tracks) they will approve it. There is more than lawsuits they track, but the exact set of things is different for each company and I have no idea what Apple works on.

Thus this could be Apple marketing, or it could be someone independent.

astura 15 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

Shit posting looks like natural use of social media so it's actually preferred

https://www.forbes.com/sites/jaymcgregor/2017/02/20/reddit-i...

“I have worked over 100 of these kinds of campaigns and never had it come back on the client. I’ve been doing viral marketing and reputation management since 2005. =In the past year I’ve worked for a major entertainment network to magnify a rumor within sports entertainment, as well as damage control on a rumor that came out of an actor being hired on a film before the production company was ready to announce that casting.”

snowwrestler 13 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Sounds amazing, where can I apply for one of these jobs?

alsetmusic a day ago | parent | prev [-]

> who's job it is to sit on social media and promote these products

Oh shit, I didn't know Marketing exists! Different thing from what OP described.