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| ▲ | lelanthran 3 days ago | parent | next [-] |
| > Coding is solved. Engineering is not. Catch up or be left behind. I'm pretty certain SOTA is better than you at engineering. It's gonna be a real shock to your system when you finally acknowledge to yourself that you are nothing more than an expensive proxy to an LLM. |
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| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I basically only use Fable and no it isn’t. Might I suggest that if you think it is you’re just projecting your own insecurity on others. Coding isn’t engineering. |
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| ▲ | unified101 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| Your boss isn't shortly going to say the same about you? Fable is better than you at engineering. |
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| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I basically only use Fable, and no it isn’t. Coding isn’t engineering. | | |
| ▲ | _joel 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | "Software Engineer" is a thing. | | |
| ▲ | roto 2 days ago | parent | next [-] | | Not here in Canada, nor many places where Engineer is a protected term. | | | |
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| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Do you think software engineers just write code or something? | | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I would bet good money that the vast majority of people who have some variety of "software engineer" as their job title mostly just write code, yes The concept of software engineer is so watered down at this point it often barely resembles engineering at all | | |
| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-] | | In Canada engineering is a regulated term and if you aren’t licensed you can get in serious trouble calling yourself one. source: I am licensed. | | |
| ▲ | bluefirebrand a day ago | parent [-] | | Yeah. My job title at work is technically Software Engineer and it makes me a little uneasy because I am not licensed But I don't call myself an engineer at all. I'm a software developer through and through. My employer calls me an engineer for some reason through |
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| ▲ | unified101 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Yes it is. It'll write a better doc at any level for any task you may do. If you're not able to see that, you just don't know how to give the context right. | | |
| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Claude writes technical word salad that people hate reading. It’s writing docs nobody looks at and nobody cares about. Technical writing is a skill just like any other form of writing and if you’re bad at it that’s on you. People despise AI slop novels and they also despise AI slop technical documents. | | |
| ▲ | unified101 3 days ago | parent [-] | | And even with that fable would be more capable than you. You just don't know how to harness it with the right context maybe. | | |
| ▲ | eudamoniac 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | I can't imagine what level of monkeys you've been working with when you can't even imagine a human writing better docs than Claude. Disturbing, frankly. | |
| ▲ | VCFundedGenYer 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | You need to take a step back from the "it's always better than you" because you're making objectively false statements based on delusion. | | |
| ▲ | sidrag22 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > You just don't know how to harness it with the right context maybe. Him placing this at the end of all his statements is just screaming, it takes an engineer to get a nicely engineered product. admitting defeat in his own statements over and over, kinda funny. | |
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| ▲ | mrhottakes 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Honestly it sounds like you don't know what you're talking about. |
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| ▲ | birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] |
| > Good riddance. > Coding is solved. Engineering is not. Catch up or be left behind. I'm really grateful for my company's culture. Reading replies like this, I remember how easy it is to forget how atrocious that can be elsewhere. Thanks for the perspective and reminder. |
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| ▲ | hactually 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | how do you mean? surely you're paid for delivering product not coding? if it is the latter, I too would love to be paid for recreational coding | | |
| ▲ | birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You misunderstood my reply. I'm talking about culture, not engineering or coding. I'm just grateful I don't work with people that say "good riddance" to blanket foreign talent bans, and "catch up or get left behind" to fellow engineers. That doesn't sound like a nice place to work? Is all I'm saying. | | |
| ▲ | tuesdaynight 3 days ago | parent [-] | | I don't think this is related to culture, it's just the internet nowadays. You need hot takes for engagement. That user probably runs with that mindset always on | | |
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| ▲ | saghm 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Something not being the primary reason I'm paid does not imply that it's "solved". Personally, I enjoy working at a company where people have intellectual curiosity about varying viewpoints to ambiguous questions like "is coding solved?" rather than scolding people who don't adhere to the dogma as being "left behind". To be clear, I use LLMs every day as part of my work pretty much entirely because my employer wants me to and has encouraged me to make them part of my workflow. They've managed to do that without anyone saying anything as aggressive as the parent commenter. |
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| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | My company has excellent culture. Zero tolerance for slop, top to bottom. With or without AI, you own your work and you are accountable for it. We’re a business not a daycare for foreign contractors without useful skills. We prefer to hire on-shore junior engineers now, but their job isn’t just to just bang out grunt work Jira tickets. They own their work end to end and support it at every level. They get mentorship from seniors to move beyond coding and into systems and architecture level thinking. That’s the job now. | | |
| ▲ | birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | > My company has excellent culture. > Zero tolerance > We’re a business not a daycare Okay man, I'm sure it's great. | | |
| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-] | | You’d be suprised how often people rise to the occasion when you don’t treat them like children. I don’t know why I can’t rely to the person below me so I’m editing: We don’t admonish. It’s a mission statement and an up-front mutual understanding by all parties that you own your work end to end and you are accountable for it. You don’t even get an interview if you don’t agree. People that are offended by it don’t even bother applying. Excellent filter. | | |
| ▲ | saghm 3 days ago | parent [-] | | Treating people like adults means not admonishing them by saying things like "we're a business, not a daycare". Adults don't need to be informed that they're working a job because they already are aware. Talking down to people by saying things like that is pretty much the opposite of treating them like adults. |
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| ▲ | gjvc 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-] | | is it your business? do you own it? | |
| ▲ | fsnovask 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | Sure bud |
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| ▲ | headchipper 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] |
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| ▲ | mrhottakes 3 days ago | parent | next [-] | | You're far enough behind that you had to create a burner account to tell someone to self-harm. | | |
| ▲ | headchipper 2 days ago | parent [-] | | is that supposed to be an insult or random angry words inspired by the labor of clicking a profile link |
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| ▲ | throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent | prev [-] | | > created 5 minutes ago lol |
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