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birdsongs 3 days ago

> Good riddance.

> Coding is solved. Engineering is not. Catch up or be left behind.

I'm really grateful for my company's culture. Reading replies like this, I remember how easy it is to forget how atrocious that can be elsewhere. Thanks for the perspective and reminder.

hactually 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

how do you mean? surely you're paid for delivering product not coding? if it is the latter, I too would love to be paid for recreational coding

birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

You misunderstood my reply. I'm talking about culture, not engineering or coding.

I'm just grateful I don't work with people that say "good riddance" to blanket foreign talent bans, and "catch up or get left behind" to fellow engineers.

That doesn't sound like a nice place to work? Is all I'm saying.

tuesdaynight 3 days ago | parent [-]

I don't think this is related to culture, it's just the internet nowadays. You need hot takes for engagement. That user probably runs with that mindset always on

birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

That's fair. My internet bubble is intentionally very small.

glouwbug 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Or, you know, just plain ol’ racism

throwatdem12311 2 days ago | parent | next [-]

TIL I’m (a Polish-Canadian) being racist because I don’t like the quality of the work Polish offshore developers my boss hired on the cheap.

birdsongs 2 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Yeah, exactly.

saghm 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Something not being the primary reason I'm paid does not imply that it's "solved". Personally, I enjoy working at a company where people have intellectual curiosity about varying viewpoints to ambiguous questions like "is coding solved?" rather than scolding people who don't adhere to the dogma as being "left behind".

To be clear, I use LLMs every day as part of my work pretty much entirely because my employer wants me to and has encouraged me to make them part of my workflow. They've managed to do that without anyone saying anything as aggressive as the parent commenter.

throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

My company has excellent culture. Zero tolerance for slop, top to bottom. With or without AI, you own your work and you are accountable for it. We’re a business not a daycare for foreign contractors without useful skills.

We prefer to hire on-shore junior engineers now, but their job isn’t just to just bang out grunt work Jira tickets. They own their work end to end and support it at every level. They get mentorship from seniors to move beyond coding and into systems and architecture level thinking. That’s the job now.

birdsongs 3 days ago | parent | next [-]

> My company has excellent culture.

> Zero tolerance

> We’re a business not a daycare

Okay man, I'm sure it's great.

throwatdem12311 3 days ago | parent [-]

You’d be suprised how often people rise to the occasion when you don’t treat them like children.

I don’t know why I can’t rely to the person below me so I’m editing:

We don’t admonish. It’s a mission statement and an up-front mutual understanding by all parties that you own your work end to end and you are accountable for it. You don’t even get an interview if you don’t agree. People that are offended by it don’t even bother applying. Excellent filter.

saghm 3 days ago | parent [-]

Treating people like adults means not admonishing them by saying things like "we're a business, not a daycare". Adults don't need to be informed that they're working a job because they already are aware. Talking down to people by saying things like that is pretty much the opposite of treating them like adults.

gjvc 3 days ago | parent | prev | next [-]

is it your business? do you own it?

fsnovask 3 days ago | parent | prev [-]

Sure bud