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dehrmann 2 hours ago

It's like a basic Kindle. Or Ryanair.

Between this, the proprietary nut patent, and the heated seat subscription, I'm probably not going to look at BMW for my next car. They've been going back on things, but all of this adds up to they don't get it.

beAbU 35 minutes ago | parent | next [-]

How can you put Ryanair and BMW in the same category?

Ryanair's whole shtick is "we'll treat you like cattle in a truck, and you'll be grateful you only paid €20 for the experience". I feel that anyone who is outraged by their nickel-and-diming doesn't really understand what Ryanair is about.

If I paid €200 for a flight from Dublin to Amsterdam, and they forced me to watch ads on the seatback screen and charged me to use the loo, then I'll be rightfully upset. But €50 for Ryanair? Where do I sign up for the €20 standing-only tickets?

Barbing an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

>basic Kindle

Praise be to AdBreak https://kindlemodding.org/jailbreaking/AdBreak

I practically own it now!

Ryanair: can’t recall if they’re worse than Spirit/Frontier. “We have one price for tiny people flying with the shirt on their back, and other prices for everyone else like those who might need luggage, or, liquid to survive.“

riffraff 2 hours ago | parent | prev | next [-]

Ryanair is the epitome of "cheap with compromise" which is the opposite of the BMW brand. And kindle basic gets advertising as a known feature at buying time.

Pushing advertisment after sale on a premium product is absolutely not similar.

Barbing 41 minutes ago | parent [-]

I had to edit my comment saying it might not have been a fair comparison because I realized they might’ve just been dissing BMW pretty hard.

‘Enjoy your “luxury“ car’, the kind of “luxury“ that appeals to subsidized e-reader buyers and discount airline customers.

And I like that. If BMW can’t resist monetizing their customers’ attention, they don’t deserve the higher-end customers their marketing suggests they desire.

2muchcoffeeman an hour ago | parent | prev | next [-]

A BMW is like a flagship smart phone. It looks like luxury, but everyone has them.

Barbing 37 minutes ago | parent [-]

Are you including people who own older BMWs? They look like really great deals on the used market. Just don’t check the five-year total cost of ownership. If it’s not new, it’s gonna cost you in the shop. Maybe every year or so.

Also I think everyone in our social circles have flagship phones but $50 Android pre-paids sell pretty well. (Someone probably knows, unlike me, the exact numbers.)

mplewis 2 hours ago | parent | prev [-]

No, it's obviously not like that.